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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 02:01:52 PM »
The true Christian is under grace. If that is not good enough. None of us will make it.  ::tippinghat::

manna to fish...

I agree....manna to fish and all of you

For that which is being expressed in those type of fear based messages is an unauthorized message

Jesus commissioned His faithful followers to preach the Good News not fear, dread and bad news!

Although Jesus said bad things are coming to the world...He said be of Good Cheer He has overcome the world


"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."

John 16:33

That's Good News!

Because in Christ Jesus we too have overcome the world

For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 1 John 5:4

The unauthorized message is a message of doubt, fear, uncertainty and unbelief all of which are the fruit of rebellion and disobedience that caused Israel to wander in the desert those 40 years.

People who speak the unauthorized message disturb and trouble the minds of God's people

Acts 15:24We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said.

Troubling disturbing messages which causes us to doubt our trust and faith in God are the exact opposite of Jesus message and contrary to Good News

Because God is the God of All Comfort

3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. 2 Corinthians 1

Lastly this is a sure way of knowing if someone is Spirit led or being lead by something else because before Jesus left He clearly stated

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:16

That means Jesus came to comfort us by giving us words of comfort a message intended to bring comfort

When He left He said He would send "another" Comforter.

That simply means...The Holy Spirit will speak words of Comfort to God's people, so much so He goes by the name "Comforter"

That's Good News!

Therefore any message which is contrary to Good News, a message which is disturbing and troubling is also contrary to Comfort and is not the Holy Spirit....sorry  ::frown::


It is ridiculous how set you are in your doctrine.  If you watched the video, you would have seen where John said that what he heard from God was different from the theology he had held.  He had to come to grips with the fact that HE was wrong and not God.  I fear many people are not in position to find fault in their own beliefs and doctrine and will instead find it in God when they are proven wrong.

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 02:01:52 PM »

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2012, 02:34:37 PM »
The true Christian is under grace. If that is not good enough. None of us will make it.  ::tippinghat::

manna to fish...

I agree....manna to fish and all of you

For that which is being expressed in those type of fear based messages is an unauthorized message

Jesus commissioned His faithful followers to preach the Good News not fear, dread and bad news!

Although Jesus said bad things are coming to the world...He said be of Good Cheer He has overcome the world


"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."

John 16:33

That's Good News!

Because in Christ Jesus we too have overcome the world

For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 1 John 5:4

The unauthorized message is a message of doubt, fear, uncertainty and unbelief all of which are the fruit of rebellion and disobedience that caused Israel to wander in the desert those 40 years.

People who speak the unauthorized message disturb and trouble the minds of God's people

Acts 15:24We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said.

Troubling disturbing messages which causes us to doubt our trust and faith in God are the exact opposite of Jesus message and contrary to Good News

Because God is the God of All Comfort

3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. 2 Corinthians 1

Lastly this is a sure way of knowing if someone is Spirit led or being lead by something else because before Jesus left He clearly stated

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:16

That means Jesus came to comfort us by giving us words of comfort a message intended to bring comfort

When He left He said He would send "another" Comforter.

That simply means...The Holy Spirit will speak words of Comfort to God's people, so much so He goes by the name "Comforter"

That's Good News!

Therefore any message which is contrary to Good News, a message which is disturbing and troubling is also contrary to Comfort and is not the Holy Spirit....sorry  ::frown::


It is ridiculous how set you are in your doctrine.  If you watched the video, you would have seen where John said that what he heard from God was different from the theology he had held.  He had to come to grips with the fact that HE was wrong and not God.  I fear many people are not in position to find fault in their own beliefs and doctrine and will instead find it in God when they are proven wrong.

Are you sure the message he heard came from God?  I'd rather trust the Word of God itself than a "message" someone claims they heard that "changed their view". What does the Word of God say?  That is what is truly important. 
"The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want".

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2012, 02:34:37 PM »

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 05:04:53 PM »





What I liked about this video is the distinct call to holiness. If nothing else this sermon will make you think through your life with God more deeply. We have done such a great job of sytematizing how "church" is done and how it functions, but do we really give ourselves over to holiness as we are called to do? The preacher of this sermon seemed to be extremely sincere and passionate about his faith. I would like to believe that the people in the pews in any Church that loves Jesus are tired of going through the motions. God should be all consuming to all of us who claim the Name of Jesus.








"Therefore Since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Romans 5:1  -ESV

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 05:04:53 PM »

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 05:50:07 PM »
Every key thing that John says in the clip lines up with scripture and true spiritual experience. By the Spirit, one readily agrees with what John says in the video clip.

Any one who truly understands and identifies with the Spirit knows that He can be very grieved when holiness is compromised. And that He can be sorely grieved when His name is blasphemed; He sends the Holy Ghost in His name. Many don't have a clue what the name of God encapsulates and means, let alone understand what Romans 1:18-23 means. To me, those verses of Scripture capture and summarize John's entire message.

Romans 1:
18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19  Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.


John also confessed of his weakness when talking about how he was led to Romans 2:24 that declares: For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.. That scripture was one of final straws to brake John and made him see his hopelessness given the culture of blasphemy in the community he was sent to. It is one thing to read scripture about that kind of grievous sin, it is another thing to believe it applies to you.

Job, at a point, felt like John before God gave him (Job) a deep and rude awakening to the knowledge of God that can indeed be experienced as a Father's loving chastisement. When God deals with you that way, you'd hate the very things you thought you were doing right and the doctrines you deeply believed as unshakable but were really of your carnal understanding. His righteousness is faultless and excellently credible.

I haven't heard a teaching (for the discerning) in a very long time like I heard from John in that video clip. John's teaching does impart a weighty measure the grace of God to those who believe and can see to receive.

Let those who have an ear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the saints.

Grace and peace from God and from the Christ unto all!

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 05:50:07 PM »

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 10:05:09 AM »
The true Christian is under grace. If that is not good enough. None of us will make it.  ::tippinghat::

manna to fish...

I agree....manna to fish and all of you

For that which is being expressed in those type of fear based messages is an unauthorized message

Jesus commissioned His faithful followers to preach the Good News not fear, dread and bad news!

Although Jesus said bad things are coming to the world...He said be of Good Cheer He has overcome the world


"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."

John 16:33

That's Good News!

Because in Christ Jesus we too have overcome the world

For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 1 John 5:4

The unauthorized message is a message of doubt, fear, uncertainty and unbelief all of which are the fruit of rebellion and disobedience that caused Israel to wander in the desert those 40 years.

People who speak the unauthorized message disturb and trouble the minds of God's people

Acts 15:24We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said.

Troubling disturbing messages which causes us to doubt our trust and faith in God are the exact opposite of Jesus message and contrary to Good News

Because God is the God of All Comfort

3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. 2 Corinthians 1

Lastly this is a sure way of knowing if someone is Spirit led or being lead by something else because before Jesus left He clearly stated

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:16

That means Jesus came to comfort us by giving us words of comfort a message intended to bring comfort

When He left He said He would send "another" Comforter.

That simply means...The Holy Spirit will speak words of Comfort to God's people, so much so He goes by the name "Comforter"

That's Good News!

Therefore any message which is contrary to Good News, a message which is disturbing and troubling is also contrary to Comfort and is not the Holy Spirit....sorry  ::frown::


It is ridiculous how set you are in your doctrine.  If you watched the video, you would have seen where John said that what he heard from God was different from the theology he had held.  He had to come to grips with the fact that HE was wrong and not God.  I fear many people are not in position to find fault in their own beliefs and doctrine and will instead find it in God when they are proven wrong.

Are you sure the message he heard came from God?  I'd rather trust the Word of God itself than a "message" someone claims they heard that "changed their view". What does the Word of God say?  That is what is truly important. 
It is exactly what the Bible says in my point of view.  Regardless, the close-mindedness that people have, due to their doctrine, is just blinding.  They cannot learn from people unless they hold ALL of the exact same views. 

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Re: A warning to Christians
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 10:05:09 AM »