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« on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 21:22:53 »
B.H.
Congrats on post number 500.  You are a posting maniac!
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B.H. is a mighty poster indeed, however he is "but a moon cast shadow" compared to janine who has penned 735 posts last time I checked.

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« Reply #2 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 03:15:26 »
Anti-class brethren oppose the classes because:

1.  they think classes turn children off from the assembly.  "Class is more fun" you see.

2.  Anti-class brethren think that Class churches consider the classes to be part of the "assembly" and feel a lack of distinction between the two is erroneous.

3. Woman class teachers-I'll come back to this later.

4. Classes do not provide what their supporters claim they do.

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« Reply #3 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 14:11:37 »
view them as Satan incarnate?

Heavens No!  I reserve that category for child molesters, serial killers, genocidal dictators and internet atheists  :p

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« Reply #4 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 21:12:49 »
What do you guys think of the people who are opposed to Sunday School?  Do you hate them or view them as Satan incarnate?"

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« Reply #5 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 21:21:52 »
Pardon my non-Church of Christ ignorance but why are some people opposed to Sunday School?
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« Reply #6 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 21:32:01 »
I don't have a problem with the non Sunday School group. They really do have Sunday School by the way, they just call is by a different name and do things slightly different.

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Hey B.H., I thought I had more posts than anyone. Boy was I wrong. Congrats!

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« Reply #7 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 22:01:12 »
In a desperate attempt to catch up with B.H.'s number of posts...

No, actually not, but this doesn't have anything to do with the thread topic (which, for me, is a non-question because they're entitled to their opinion in that realm of opinion).

Seeing B.H.'s signature thingy ...
Beware of dogs
... reminded me that I read somewhere that "dog" was Greek slang for "male prostitute".

Now, there. Was that a meaningless bit of trivia, or what?

My eleventy-first post!

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« Reply #8 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 22:35:08 »
IF they don't want a Sunday school that's fine by me. I don't see it being a requirement so they can exercise their liberty.

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« Reply #9 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 23:41:12 »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (Skip @ Aug. 13 2002,3:01)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Seeing B.H.'s signature thingy ...
Beware of dogs
... reminded me that I read somewhere that "dog" was Greek slang for "male prostitute".[/quote]
And just how would you know unless you had your mind in the gutter all the time? :p

I did not know that.  Is what you said true or are you just pulling our leg?

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« Reply #10 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 00:41:05 »
Now that the question has been asked, about why the anti-Sunday-school crowd is against it, I'm gonna go nuts until I remember what I've read on it.  I've forgotten.  Thbbbbbbpfst! :p  Perhaps they're against Sunday school because they see expected attendance in it as a chance for people to bind something not Bible-bound?

The only "anti" group I've had exposure to, only exercised their anti-ness against cooperative extra-church ventures like orphanages, group homes, missionary societies... parachurch things, things that operate as seeming arms of the church or church bodies, but are not congregations of Christians, churches, themselves... and it's not that they're against those things, they're just against the Lord's money from the Lord's collection plate (passed on the Lord's Sunday morning) (and going into the Lord's bank account at the Lord's 6.5% interest) going into such ventures.  

I found an "anti" bone in my body once... a former congregation of ours had a very regimented, club-like "youth group" with officers and dues collected and so on... it functioned like a separate little congregation of Masons or Missouri Synod Lutherans or Mormons or something, within the church as a whole.

Perhaps to keep it from becoming a "Lord of the Flies" situation, various adults were closely involved and some were "officers" in the youth group.  (So they liked "1984" better?)

Anyway, I doubt I'm explaining it in such a way as to get the point really across.  It was one of those times when your skin crawls, when you really give creedence to what some would consider the Spirit making something plain to you.  Our kids didn't take part unless an activity was directed at all the youth, rather than just the young preachers being groomed up...

And it must have been a very small "anti-" bone I found, because no youth group since then has raised the hair on the back of my neck.

B. H., why in the world would you ask if we hated them?  What sort of answer do you expect, anyway? ???

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« Reply #11 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 05:16:29 »
Like I said before....

It might start another 2000 stringer if I tell ya how I feel about it....


sooo...... I plead the 5th...    
 ;)      


peace to all....

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« Reply #12 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 06:59:49 »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (OldDad @ Aug. 13 2002,11:22)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]My great grandfather on my dad's side was a country doctor and a circuit riding preacher for several non class churches in Northeast Alabama.  From what I can recall from my grandmother, his opposition was based on the silence of scripture on the subject.

OD[/quote]
What was your great grandfather's name  OldDad?

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« Reply #13 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 21:52:22 »
RE: Beware of dogs...

You know, it's easy to lose track of a post in this place!

Deut 23:18
Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.


According to the http://www.biblestudytools.net - KJV with Strong's, when you view this verse and click on "dog" -

Yes, indeedy! Dog was a slang term for male prostitute in the Hebrew.
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« Reply #14 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 21:19:28 »
ummm...I have no problem with them whatsoever.  If sunday school isn't a disputable matter, I don't know what is.  I honestly question whether or not it is the most effective method for teaching in todays world.  Alot of the "anti-sunday school" churches I know of are actually more progressive than most mainstream c of c's.  Check out Farmer's Branch Church of Christ in Farmer's Branch Texas.

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« Reply #15 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 21:42:43 »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (B. H. @ Aug. 13 2002,2:12)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]What do you guys think of the people who are opposed to Sunday School?  Do you hate them or view them as Satan incarnate?"[/quote]
I don't agree with them, but like ellisadam says, I think it's one of those "disputable matters".  If they really feel the Bible leads them to believe that there should be no Sunday Schools, then they should follow that conviction.  I might have a problem if they try to force this belief on me, since I believe that there's nothing wrong with having Sunday School -- it's just one method of people getting together to study and discuss the Bible, and whatever one calls it, I can't see what's wrong with that. I'm not sure I fully understand why some are against SS's -- is it a "Sunday Schools are not mentioned in the Scriptures" thing? If that's the basis, where does it end? Bible doesn't mention, for instance, song books.
Fine to have 'em, fine not to. I guess it also depends on whether one views something as an addendum to what the Bible says, or as an aid to same.  If one views the Sunday School as adding to scripture (i.e. endorsing what isn't expressly authorized), then they'll be against it. If one views Sunday School as an aid to learning the Scripture, and perhaps also to Christian fellowship, they'll be more likely to be for it, or at least of the "can take or leave it" mindset.

   But anyway, no, I don't hate 'em or view 'em as Satan incarnate.  I guess one advantage to their view is that they maybe get to either sleep an hour later (or get outta "church" an hour early, depending) or do they have longer worship assembly times? hmmm ....

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« Reply #16 on: Tue Aug 13, 2002 - 23:42:31 »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (Guest @ Aug. 13 2002,3:30)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]B.H. is a mighty poster indeed, however he is "but a moon cast shadow" compared to janine who has penned 735 posts last time I checked.

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I think there are a couple of other folks with more posts than me too.

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« Reply #17 on: Wed Aug 14, 2002 - 06:22:42 »
My great grandfather on my dad's side was a country doctor and a circuit riding preacher for several non class churches in Northeast Alabama.  From what I can recall from my grandmother, his opposition was based on the silence of scripture on the subject.

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« Reply #18 on: Mon Sep 23, 2002 - 13:23:53 »
Since Sunday School was not something ordained by God, if some people choose to not accept it, that's fine.  However, one thing we must always do is to train up others in the way they should go - with some sort of study of the Word.

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[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (Guest @ Aug. 13 2002,5:42)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--][!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]What do you guys think of the people who are opposed to Sunday School?  Do you hate them or view them as Satan incarnate?"[/quote]
I don't agree with them, but like ellisadam says, I think it's one of those "disputable matters".  If they really feel the Bible leads them to believe that there should be no Sunday Schools, then they should follow that conviction.  I might have a problem if they try to force this belief on me, since I believe that there's nothing wrong with having Sunday School -- it's just one method of people getting together to study and discuss the Bible, and whatever one calls it, I can't see what's wrong with that. I'm not sure I fully understand why some are against SS's -- is it a "Sunday Schools are not mentioned in the Scriptures" thing? If that's the basis, where does it end? Bible doesn't mention, for instance, song books.
Fine to have 'em, fine not to. I guess it also depends on whether one views something as an addendum to what the Bible says, or as an aid to same.  If one views the Sunday School as adding to scripture (i.e. endorsing what isn't expressly authorized), then they'll be against it. If one views Sunday School as an aid to learning the Scripture, and perhaps also to Christian fellowship, they'll be more likely to be for it, or at least of the "can take or leave it" mindset.

   But anyway, no, I don't hate 'em or view 'em as Satan incarnate.  I guess one advantage to their view is that they maybe get to either sleep an hour later (or get outta "church" an hour early, depending) or do they have longer worship assembly times? hmmm ....

On the sunny side of the street,
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Someone please tell me this.  Why is it so important in the CoC movement as to HOW you worship or HOW you pursue
Christ's ministry?  I thought it was WHAT you believed that really counted.
 
The corny petty little dos and don't I see bandied around by CoC people amount to to dogmatic ritual.  Weren't you folks wanting to move away from such nonsense?  Most churches I have attended have their pet little rituals, and I have nothing wrong with that until it reaches the point that a ritual is an issue of salvation or that jumping through hoops is the main theme of the sect.  Why not practice a little voodoo and really get with the program?  Think about it.  Get over it.
It's hurting Christ's mission.

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Bumping for the fun of it.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed May 15, 2013 - 19:45:08 »
My great grandfather on my dad's side was a country doctor and a circuit riding preacher for several non class churches in Northeast Alabama.  From what I can recall from my grandmother, his opposition was based on the silence of scripture on the subject.

OD
What were those years, OD? My dad's family was from NE Alabama and NW Georgia.

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