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Carl Sagan, et al
« on: Wed Jun 13, 2018 - 21:50:58 »
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Back in 1980 there was a thirteen-part series on television called "COSMOS: A Personal Voyage" hosted by Carl Sagan.

I didn't watch the series at that time; and only recently began viewing it on YouTube. It's my first experience with Mr. Sagan. I'd heard of him, but never actually listened to him speak.

Well, it turns out; I really like the man. Sagan was very personable; sort of like Mr. Rogers: he was sincere, charming, soft-spoken, and educational; coupled with a talent for explaining difficult concepts on a layman's level. Sagan was a perfect front man for the scientific community.

But he was an atheist. Sagan stood against beliefs that the cosmos-- all its forms of life, matter, and energy --is the result of intelligent design.

Well; if there really is a heaven and a hell, then of course Sagan is definitely in the wrong place; and my heart goes out to him as I can only imagine the terrible, crushing disappointment that poor man must be feeling.
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Re: Carl Sagan, et al
« Reply #1 on: Wed Jun 13, 2018 - 22:25:20 »
The fact of the matter, the pity if you will, is that hell is not just for the Hitlers, the serial killers, the child rapists, the sociopath and psychopath who practice merciless violence and pain, and the militant atheistic neighbor. Many who end up condemned will be the personable, friendly, moral, loving, well meaning people that we have shaken hands with and tried to share our beliefs with, but who could not accept personal guilt of sin and could not accept the concept of God and man as His fallible creation.

We don't like to think along these lines, and I am not the judge of any particular person. May the judgment belong to God and to Him alone and may He have mercy on whom He will. I have had family members who are gone and have others still alive who don't share the faith. I can only try with those still here and otherwise pray and know God will do what is good and right.

I will admit that my attitude about this is not what it should be. It is easy for me to think of a Hitler being condemned. I practically rejoice and wish it could be me pronouncing the judgment. However, I can only cry at the thought of a Carl Sagan or a spectacular neighbor or coworker or family member who just has honest disagreements about Jesus Christ and sin and the need for salvation. I believe God's attitude is sorrow for any soul that is lost and will not repent, no matter who the person is. I can't imagine what any of them will be feeling and thinking when that time comes for Christ's return.

This is probably not what you had in mind, NyawehNyoh, but this is what filled my mind when reading your OP.

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Re: Carl Sagan, et al
« Reply #2 on: Wed Jun 13, 2018 - 22:49:47 »
Sagan alluded to spirituality in the series but would never go as far as to confess a creator. As well, Contact seemed to touch on the idea as well, the book more so than the movie. I have often wondered if Sagan had a change of heart prior to his death. 

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« Reply #3 on: Thu Jun 14, 2018 - 04:23:10 »
Sagan alluded to spirituality in the series but would never go as far as to confess a creator. As well, Contact seemed to touch on the idea as well, the book more so than the movie. I have often wondered if Sagan had a change of heart prior to his death.

Atheists who work in The Arts often show evidence of wrestling with the idea, of wishing for an intelligent and benevolent "higher power," hating the idea of accountability to a Judge, and being bewildered and frustrated by the conflicting messages of life experience.

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Re: Carl Sagan, et al
« Reply #4 on: Thu Jun 14, 2018 - 20:31:46 »
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I have often wondered if Sagan had a change of heart prior to his death.

Coming to the realization that the cosmos-- in all of its forms of life, matter, and energy --is the product of intelligent design is the easy part. The tough part is then deciding upon which of the many creator deities is the real McCoy. That would have been a monumental task for a scientific mind like Sagan's; and I honestly think he would have given up on it as something that simply cannot be known.
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