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Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
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ISAIAH 45:7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD (YHVH) do all these things."



This is a strange verse that might capture the attention of many. I am sure we have heard it said that "Evil comes from the Devil" We all seem to connect evil to Satan and his demonic entities. Yet, this verse clearly states that YHVH created evil. Case closed. But we must ask ourselves "why?"

Why did a loving, perfect, and Holy God create evil? So, as we attempt to answer this question. Let's look at the words with a fine-tooth comb.

"Light and darkness" "peace and evil" "form, make, create" How can we relate these words to our world today? in the world in which we live? Here we see opposites, "light vs darkness" "peace vs evil". We can also see these in similarities; "light and peace" and "Darkness and evil" Two go together and two are different. But they are ALL made by Adonai. The word used for "create" in Hebrew is "Bara" which means "to create or bring into being for a specific purpose." It is not just to create or make and throw out there into existence, sit back and see what happens.

All things were made for a purpose. We see in Genesis Chapter 1 that there was darkness, yet out of the darkness came light. "Light" is also referred to as Yeshua himself. One thought is that when YHVH "spoke" into existence all that He created, the words that He spoke emanated at such a high frequency that the sound waves were heated to such a degree that they glowed with "light" But this is just an idea. No one was around back then to observe creation.

Yet, before Genesis 1, there was just eternity past, and, nothingness? the blackness of empty space? Yet since Elohim existed eternally from eternity past, then, there can not be "nothingness" rather "somethingness" (wow, is that really a word?) Yes, (my word) Elohim existed so there was no such thing as "nothingness" yet "darkness?' did it exist before Genesis 1?

Can darkness associate itself with evil? There are two entities of "darkness" one is "physical" darkness (if one can call it that) and the other "spiritual darkness". In order to sleep well, we need a "dark" room, to close our eyes and rest. Photographers many years ago developed film in a "dark" room. When I was in high school, I took a course in photography and Mr. Tovar, my photography teacher taught us how to go into a pitch-black closet and unroll the film in our camera into a black box with a hole in the top, then pour in the chemicals to develop the negatives. "Darkness" was needed to develop the film. There are animals that only come out during the darkness of night to feed, and flowers close up to rest during the night.

So, that kind of darkness is good, so "peace" and "relaxation" can come in the "darkness" to allow us to sleep and rest. But spiritual darkness relates to evil. Not knowing the Torah (Bible) exposes us to evil. What we don't know CAN hurt us. Rejection of God's gift of Salvation brings darkness into our lives and makes us slaves to the "evil" master; HaSatan.

Knowing what spiritual darkness is can lead us to the "light" of the gospel. rejecting "evil" and welcoming "Shalom" (peace) through Yeshua.
Recognizing a poisonous scorpion (darkness, evil) from a non-poisonous one can bring one "peace" in that we know what to look for and avoid. Well, all scorpions sting, but some are like a bee or wasp sting, and others, well... you'd better go see a doctor quickly! (the difference is in the claw and stinger)

When we read and obey God's Commandments, we get "peace" in our lives, yet the "negative" commandments warn us against "evil" and knowing what "evil" can do against us, and thus avoiding the same, brings us "peace". In a dark room, where the is pitch-blackness, if you stike a match, that light from the match however small that flame is, chases away the darkness, now, as our eyes adjust, we can see around us. So is the Word of God, like a flame from a match, that will reveal everything around us and the spiritual darkness will flee. (mind you, don't blow out the flame)

So, back to the million-dollar question; Why did God create evil and peace together? Perhaps the answer is in the creation of mankind. Mankind was given a choice to obey or disobey. God wanted man and woman to love and obey Him out of free will and choice. The same is for us today. If there had been no such thing as "evil" then, we would have no choice BUT to obey and love, there would be no testing our love, we would be like robots or machines that run because they are programmed to run. We are more than machines, we are His living creations, created with a choice to "walk in the light and have peace" rather than "succumb to the darkness and be enveloped in evil".

Would we also dare say that God created evil, to punish evil doers? Whatever a man sows, that he must also reap. We can see that in our everyday lives. Even Yeshua said to Peter; "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." So, evil might have been created for that reason also.

Either way, the choice is ours.


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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #1 on: Sat Jun 25, 2022 - 19:11:46 »
I do not believe that God created moral evil.  I think "evil" as we typically think of it, is not what Isaiah 45:7 is speaking about.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #2 on: Mon Jun 27, 2022 - 08:12:17 »
ISAIAH 45:7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD (YHVH) do all these things."



This is a strange verse that might capture the attention of many. I am sure we have heard it said that "Evil comes from the Devil" We all seem to connect evil to Satan and his demonic entities. Yet, this verse clearly states that YHVH created evil. Case closed. But we must ask ourselves "why?"



It was in God's plans from day 1.

Why?

I have theories but they shall remain silent.... for the moment.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #3 on: Mon Jun 27, 2022 - 10:19:31 »
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Did God create evil?  (Isaiah 45:7)
Fanatics and all unlearned men torture this word evil, as if God were the author of evil, that is, of sin; but it is very obvious how ridiculously they abuse this passage of the Prophet.

God is not the author of evil, sin, etc. The Wicked one is the father of all sins! The only sense that could be put on these words of Isaiah is: "God, who knows the end from the beginning, knew what angles and man would do apart from His grace keeping them from doing so"~thereby, in this sense only could it be said that God created sin, by still creating man and angles and leaving some of them to the power of their own will, (angles) and the wisdom of their own hearts. God alone cannot be tempted to sin, and neither can the elect angels~only because God's election of them protected them and for no other reason.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #4 on: Mon Jun 27, 2022 - 14:48:54 »
Fanatics and all unlearned men torture this word evil, as if God were the author of evil, that is, of sin; but it is very obvious how ridiculously they abuse this passage of the Prophet.

God is not the author of evil, sin, etc. The Wicked one is the father of all sins! The only sense that could be put on these words of Isaiah is: "God, who knows the end from the beginning, knew what angles and man would do apart from His grace keeping them from doing so"~thereby, in this sense only could it be said that God created sin, by still creating man and angles and leaving some of them to the power of their own will, (angles) and the wisdom of their own hearts. God alone cannot be tempted to sin, and neither can the elect angels~only because God's election of them protected them and for no other reason.


Please humor me for the moment because I am not up to saying more then a scarce sentence of two.

God created Lucifer. did He not?

Was Lucifer created absolutely perfect or was there a hitch in his makeup that made him want to "surpass" God before he and 1/3 of his followers were thrown out of heaven?

If you believe it was the first, then what was it that made Lucifer turn?

If you believe it was some hitch in his makeup, then why would God have done that?

Please Red.

If possible just answer in your own words and not the volumes of biblical copy you are so well known for providing

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #5 on: Mon Jun 27, 2022 - 15:34:47 »
ISAIAH 45:7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD (YHVH) do all these things."



This is a strange verse that might capture the attention of many. I am sure we have heard it said that "Evil comes from the Devil" We all seem to connect evil to Satan and his demonic entities. Yet, this verse clearly states that YHVH created evil. Case closed. But we must ask ourselves "why?"

Why did a loving, perfect, and Holy God create evil? So, as we attempt to answer this question. Let's look at the words with a fine-tooth comb.

"Light and darkness" "peace and evil" "form, make, create" How can we relate these words to our world today? in the world in which we live? Here we see opposites, "light vs darkness" "peace vs evil". We can also see these in similarities; "light and peace" and "Darkness and evil" Two go together and two are different. But they are ALL made by Adonai. The word used for "create" in Hebrew is "Bara" which means "to create or bring into being for a specific purpose." It is not just to create or make and throw out there into existence, sit back and see what happens.

All things were made for a purpose. We see in Genesis Chapter 1 that there was darkness, yet out of the darkness came light. "Light" is also referred to as Yeshua himself. One thought is that when YHVH "spoke" into existence all that He created, the words that He spoke emanated at such a high frequency that the sound waves were heated to such a degree that they glowed with "light" But this is just an idea. No one was around back then to observe creation.

Yet, before Genesis 1, there was just eternity past, and, nothingness? the blackness of empty space? Yet since Elohim existed eternally from eternity past, then, there can not be "nothingness" rather "somethingness" (wow, is that really a word?) Yes, (my word) Elohim existed so there was no such thing as "nothingness" yet "darkness?' did it exist before Genesis 1?

Can darkness associate itself with evil? There are two entities of "darkness" one is "physical" darkness (if one can call it that) and the other "spiritual darkness". In order to sleep well, we need a "dark" room, to close our eyes and rest. Photographers many years ago developed film in a "dark" room. When I was in high school, I took a course in photography and Mr. Tovar, my photography teacher taught us how to go into a pitch-black closet and unroll the film in our camera into a black box with a hole in the top, then pour in the chemicals to develop the negatives. "Darkness" was needed to develop the film. There are animals that only come out during the darkness of night to feed, and flowers close up to rest during the night.

So, that kind of darkness is good, so "peace" and "relaxation" can come in the "darkness" to allow us to sleep and rest. But spiritual darkness relates to evil. Not knowing the Torah (Bible) exposes us to evil. What we don't know CAN hurt us. Rejection of God's gift of Salvation brings darkness into our lives and makes us slaves to the "evil" master; HaSatan.

Knowing what spiritual darkness is can lead us to the "light" of the gospel. rejecting "evil" and welcoming "Shalom" (peace) through Yeshua.
Recognizing a poisonous scorpion (darkness, evil) from a non-poisonous one can bring one "peace" in that we know what to look for and avoid. Well, all scorpions sting, but some are like a bee or wasp sting, and others, well... you'd better go see a doctor quickly! (the difference is in the claw and stinger)

When we read and obey God's Commandments, we get "peace" in our lives, yet the "negative" commandments warn us against "evil" and knowing what "evil" can do against us, and thus avoiding the same, brings us "peace". In a dark room, where the is pitch-blackness, if you stike a match, that light from the match however small that flame is, chases away the darkness, now, as our eyes adjust, we can see around us. So is the Word of God, like a flame from a match, that will reveal everything around us and the spiritual darkness will flee. (mind you, don't blow out the flame)

So, back to the million-dollar question; Why did God create evil and peace together? Perhaps the answer is in the creation of mankind. Mankind was given a choice to obey or disobey. God wanted man and woman to love and obey Him out of free will and choice. The same is for us today. If there had been no such thing as "evil" then, we would have no choice BUT to obey and love, there would be no testing our love, we would be like robots or machines that run because they are programmed to run. We are more than machines, we are His living creations, created with a choice to "walk in the light and have peace" rather than "succumb to the darkness and be enveloped in evil".

Would we also dare say that God created evil, to punish evil doers? Whatever a man sows, that he must also reap. We can see that in our everyday lives. Even Yeshua said to Peter; "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." So, evil might have been created for that reason also.

Either way, the choice is ours.


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I thought that God created everything.

If he did not create evil, where did it come from?

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #6 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 03:37:24 »

Please humor me for the moment because I am not up to saying more then a scarce sentence of two.

God created Lucifer. did He not?

Was Lucifer created absolutely perfect or was there a hitch in his makeup that made him want to "surpass" God before he and 1/3 of his followers were thrown out of heaven?

If you believe it was the first, then what was it that made Lucifer turn?

If you believe it was some hitch in his makeup, then why would God have done that?

Please Red.

If possible just answer in your own words and not the volumes of biblical copy you are so well known for providing

For you it will be short.  No hitch as you called it in the creation of angels or man. All one has to do is THINK within the scriptures and the answer is very clear.

God's infinite attributes are His ALONE~one being He is immutable and He cannot be tempted by sin. There is your answer, and if you need proof that you have already rejected by asking me not to provide....then, search for yourself if you truly desire the love of the truth. I truly pray that you do.

God created Lucifer perfectly and gloriously made him above the other created spirits called angels. It is in the word of God, search and see.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #7 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 03:45:37 »
I thought that God created everything.

If he did not create evil, where did it come from?
First it came from the non-elect angels, who deceived our first parents~mainly the prince among them whom the scriptures call SATAN....the powerful spirit among the fallen angels. He was NOT created with God's infinite attributes~that would be impossible.
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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #8 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 05:24:08 »
I do not believe that God created moral evil.  I think "evil" as we typically think of it, is not what Isaiah 45:7 is speaking about.
"I do not believe" and "I think" are not very strong theological arguments.  Indeed, that seems to be putting a possibly important doctrinal issue to a matter of unsubstantiated personal opinion.

The word "evil" in this verse is ra (H7451) and it is definitively includes moral evil:

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The KJV translates Strong's H7451 in the following manner: evil (442x), wickedness (59x), wicked (25x), mischief (21x), hurt (20x), bad (13x), trouble (10x), sore (9x), affliction (6x), ill (5x), adversity (4x), ill favoured (3x), harm (3x), naught (3x), noisome (2x), grievous (2x), sad (2x), miscellaneous (34x).

In the sentence structure it is meant to be the opposite of "peace," shalom.  Shalom can mean lack of conflict, it can mean well being (mentally and physically) and at peace with God spiritually and morally.

The word "and creates" (v'borey) hearkens back to creation (Gen 1) where God created light and darkness, earth and sky, dry land and seas.

So it certainly seems to indicate that God created moral evil.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #9 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 06:24:50 »
"I do not believe" and "I think" are not very strong theological arguments.  Indeed, that seems to be putting a possibly important doctrinal issue to a matter of unsubstantiated personal opinion.
Get real Dave.  Every comment that anyone makes about any passage of scripture beyond simply posting the actual scripture is a matter of personal opinion.  Thus your entire post was personal opinion.


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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #10 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 06:36:43 »
I thought that God created everything.

If he did not create evil, where did it come from?

No, God did not create everything.  For example, God did not create you or me.  He created the process of procreation in which you and I were conceived, born and grew.

Moral evil came about because God created certain beings with free will to either obey or disobey God.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #11 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 06:50:14 »
Here again, the confusion arises due to the particular translation/interpretation one chooses to use.

(KJV)  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

(RV)  I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

(ESV)  I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things.

(NASB)  The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.

(NIV)  I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

(NKJV)  I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.'


Personally, I think translations such as the KJV and the RV do not give the best interpretations.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #12 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 07:23:37 »
For you it will be short.  No hitch as you called it in the creation of angels or man. All one has to do is THINK within the scriptures and the answer is very clear.

God's infinite attributes are His ALONE~one being He is immutable and He cannot be tempted by sin. There is your answer, and if you need proof that you have already rejected by asking me not to provide....then, search for yourself if you truly desire the love of the truth. I truly pray that you do.

God created Lucifer perfectly and gloriously made him above the other created spirits called angels. It is in the word of God, search and see.

Thank you for your concise answer.

Certainly God cannot sin. And he cannot be tempted by sin. No one , or at least I am not suggesting He can. BUT that does not mean he cannot , or did not actually put sin into mankind's DNA when he ws setting up this plan we are all living in.

I say this plan because we have been given a beginning, and we have been given a suggestion of an ( future) ending.
And this is in the word of God that you and I both search ( to different conclusions).

If there was not evil , from the beginning, then why was a plan of salvation needed.

If God did not create evil, he certainly knew it existed and as in the case of Lucifer.... WHERE DID IT COME FROM?

Yes, you are correct. God did created Lucifer perfectly and gloriously made him above the other created spirits called angels. I have seen it in the word of God.

But something caused not only him but 1/3 of his angels to follow him. And if it was not because of something God designed who did?

You said

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First it came from the non-elect angels, who deceived our first parents~mainly the prince among them whom the scriptures call SATAN....the powerful spirit among the fallen angels. He was NOT created with God's infinite attributes~that would be impossible.

So if we are to conclude that Satan and all such evil was not from anything god designed... WHERE did it come from?
Maybe the Wuhan lab?

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #13 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 07:36:36 »
No, God did not create everything.  For example, God did not create you or me.  He created the process of procreation in which you and I were conceived, born and grew.

Moral evil came about because God created certain beings with free will to either obey or disobey God.

"Moral evil came about because God created certain beings with free will to either obey or disobey God."

Alright. That makes sense to those of us who believe in free will.

To me God's creation of any process , as being the only one behind any such process, makes Him the creator.

And I say this because everything... bar none... had a beginning.  Even dandelions and pigweed.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #14 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 10:56:57 »
No, God did not create everything.  For example, God did not create you or me.  He created the process of procreation in which you and I were conceived, born and grew.
?????

Really?

Was David lying when he wrote this:

Psalm 139:13
For You formed my inward parts;  You wove me in my mother’s womb.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #15 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 12:29:43 »
To form, to make, to "let there be" is not creating. I believe that God's resting from all his work that he had done in creation (Gen 2:3) is a rest that is still going on and will continue until such time as He creates the New Heavens and New Earth, whatever that is.

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #16 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 16:33:41 »
?????

Really?

Was David lying when he wrote this:

Psalm 139:13
For You formed my inward parts;  You wove me in my mother’s womb.


Naw.... He just used selective understanding of what he was inspired to write rofl

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Re: Did God create evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
« Reply #17 on: Sat Jul 02, 2022 - 17:40:16 »
A little context is always helpful.

1 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: 3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. 4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil:I the Lord do all these things. Isaiah 45:1-7 (KJV)

If we separate verse seven above from the context in which it is written, it does appear to be saying simply, that God created and creates evil.  This would be the tendency of a skeptic of scripture, who was simply looking for something wrong, rather than a student of scripture, who was looking for the truth.  The context above however, is a prophecy concerning the fact that God Himself raised up Cyrus to be victorious in battle and subdue nations.  The ultimate purpose of which, was to subdue the Babylonian kingdom to the effect of freeing the Jewish captives of the same, and once again establishing the nation of Israel, centering around God’s temple and the mediation between God and humanity carried on in the same.  This would of course be perceived as evil to the Babylonians, or anyone I guess, set against the reestablishment of Israel as a distinct nation and people.

The evil spoken of in the above verses is the evil that would come upon Babylon by way of war directed by the judgment of God, through the man He chose to bring it, Cyrus.  God is no respecter of persons.  He brought Babylon against Israel itself for their abandonment of their God, and thus also the establishment of evil within their kingdom (2 Ki. 20:1-18, 24:8-16).  Then He brought Cyrus against Babylon for similar reasons and to deliver Israel after they had been brought to the point of repentance and sought their God once more. 

The evil spoken of in the verses you shared, are in this context, by way of revealing God’s hand in bringing evil, or calamity upon the wicked by way of judgment of the same.  It was not meant to be an admission by God, that He created evil itself.  The following verses are just a few of the very many verses in scripture to the same effect.

5 Declare ye in Judah, and publish in Jerusalem; and say, Blow ye the trumpet in the land: cry, gather together, and say, Assemble yourselves, and let us go into the defenced cities. 6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction. Jer 4:5-6 (KJV)

18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them. 19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.[/]u 20 To what purpose cometh there to me incense from Sheba, and the sweet cane from a far country? your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me. 21 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish. 22 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, a people cometh from the north country, and a great nation shall be raised from the sides of the earth. Jer 6:18-22 (KJV)

28 Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them. 29 For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands. 30 And Moses spake in the ears of all the congregation of Israel the words of this song, until they were ended.  Deut 31:28-30 (KJV)

14 And, behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the Lord your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, and not one thing hath failed thereof. 15 Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the Lord your God promised you; so shall the Lord bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the Lord your God hath given you. 16 When ye have transgressed the covenant of the Lord your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you.  Josh 23:14-16 (KJV)

13 And they forsook the Lord, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. 14 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies. 15 Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the Lord was against them for evil, as the Lord had said, and as the Lord had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed. 16 Nevertheless the Lord raised up judges, which delivered them out of the hand of those that spoiled them. 17 And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the Lord; but they did not so.  Judges 2:13-17 (KJV)

9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. 10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife. 11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. 12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun. 2 Sam 12:9-12 (KJV)

8 And at this house, which is high, every one that passeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss; and they shall say, Why hath the Lord done thus unto this land, and to this house? 9 And they shall answer, Because they forsook the Lord their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the Lord brought upon them all this evil. 1 Kings 9:8-9 (KJV)


Righteous judgment upon those who are and continually practice evil, is not evil.  God allows, or at times even brings evil upon those who are and continually practice evil themselves, giving them a taste of their own medicine as righteous judgment for the same.  This is a far cry from creating evil itself as a whole.  As already stated concerning cruelty and violence, which applies to evil as well, God did not create it.  Though He certainly must and does deal with it, now that it exists.  What better and more fitting judgment could possibly be brought upon those who love and continually practice evil without any repentance concerning the same, than to bring that very evil right back down upon their own heads?  As the scriptures plainly state and teach, we will all eventually reap exactly what we sow.  God is not, nor did He create evil, but must deal with the same since it exists.

4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. Psalms 5:4 (KJV)

5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1 John 1:5-7 (KJV)

17 And let none of you magine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the Lord. Zech 8:17 (KJV)

13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. James 1:13-15 (KJV)


The above scriptures, not only make no sense if in fact God created and causes evil itself, but are a straight up lie.  Again, no doubt a skeptic of scripture will choose to believe this is so, since it will support what they already wish to believe.  On the other hand, someone looking for the truth of the matter will consider the testimony of scripture in its entirety, rather than selecting this or that individual verse to support what they have already determined to believe.  Many Christians likewise do the same thing to their own detriment.  The following are some versions of the bible which relate the verse in question more in line with modern use of our language.

Isaiah 45:7
Amplified Bible (AMP)
7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create [physical] evil (calamity); I am the Lord, Who does all these things.

Isaiah 45:7
New International Version (NIV)
7 I form the light and create darkness, 
I bring prosperity and create disaster; 
I, the Lord, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7
English Standard Version (ESV)
7 I form light and create darkness,
 I make well-being and create calamity,
 I am the Lord, who does all these things.