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DNA and the Bible
« on: July 28, 2013, 09:47:24 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2013, 11:49:52 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 11:51:06 AM »
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

I agree.  If it were, it would be dabbling in mysticism.

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 12:43:48 PM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

AVZ, you advise not to put my hopes in vague claims, but you offer no counter argument to back your claims up. What is your argument, what are the vague claims?

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 10:35:58 PM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

AVZ, you advise not to put my hopes in vague claims, but you offer no counter argument to back your claims up. What is your argument, what are the vague claims?
I will use your DNA claim as an example to explain vague claims.

The linguistic argument
As a starter your claim that the 46 words spoken by the serpent refer to the number of chromosomes in the human body.
Well, here you already arrived at an uncertainty as we do not know what language was used at that time.
The earliest account of the creation story is written in Hebrew. And somewhere between creation and the earliest accounts of creation we had an event called "the tower of Babel".
Whether plausible or possible, we do not have sufficient information to state that the words mentioned in Genesis are in the actual language.
Hence the mathematical assumption fails by linguistic uncertainty.

Incorrect conclusion argument
Chromosomes and DNA are two different things. Similarly my hand and my fingers are different things.
A hand is still a hand, even though it only has 3 or 4 fingers.
If at all your claim would be proof of anything, than it would be proof for 46 chromosomes and not the existence of DNA.

The biological argument
Chromosomes are built up by DNA and not the other way around.
You need a lot of DNA to make 1 chromosome. You do not need 46 chromosomes to "prove" the existence of DNA...1 is enough.
Humans however have 46 paired chromosomes, dogs have 78, horses have 64 and frogs have 26
So the numbers 78, 64 and 26 would as much be magical numbers to explain DNA as your number 46.

The theological argument
We know of some numbers in the scriptures that carry a certain divine purpose. I am not sure if I should call them "holy" because in themselves the numbers are just what they are...numbers.
The "science" behind it (if you can call it science) is called numerology. In our specific case Biblical Numerology.
There is a whole list of these numbers, you can find them online. Unfortunately 46 is not one of them.
Now I am not saying that 46 therefore is not a "holy" number...I am saying that the notion to perceive this as a "holy" number is vague at least.


As you can see your claim can be approached from various different angles with various independent questions.
The answers to these questions are either non-existent or vague.
The claim you made (although not inherently dismissible) is vague by its presumptions.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2013, 10:38:40 PM by AVZ »

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 03:47:09 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

AVZ, you advise not to put my hopes in vague claims, but you offer no counter argument to back your claims up. What is your argument, what are the vague claims?
I will use your DNA claim as an example to explain vague claims.

The linguistic argument
As a starter your claim that the 46 words spoken by the serpent refer to the number of chromosomes in the human body.
Well, here you already arrived at an uncertainty as we do not know what language was used at that time.
The earliest account of the creation story is written in Hebrew. And somewhere between creation and the earliest accounts of creation we had an event called "the tower of Babel".
Whether plausible or possible, we do not have sufficient information to state that the words mentioned in Genesis are in the actual language.
Hence the mathematical assumption fails by linguistic uncertainty.

Incorrect conclusion argument
Chromosomes and DNA are two different things. Similarly my hand and my fingers are different things.
A hand is still a hand, even though it only has 3 or 4 fingers.
If at all your claim would be proof of anything, than it would be proof for 46 chromosomes and not the existence of DNA.

The biological argument
Chromosomes are built up by DNA and not the other way around.
You need a lot of DNA to make 1 chromosome. You do not need 46 chromosomes to "prove" the existence of DNA...1 is enough.
Humans however have 46 paired chromosomes, dogs have 78, horses have 64 and frogs have 26
So the numbers 78, 64 and 26 would as much be magical numbers to explain DNA as your number 46.

The theological argument
We know of some numbers in the scriptures that carry a certain divine purpose. I am not sure if I should call them "holy" because in themselves the numbers are just what they are...numbers.
The "science" behind it (if you can call it science) is called numerology. In our specific case Biblical Numerology.
There is a whole list of these numbers, you can find them online. Unfortunately 46 is not one of them.
Now I am not saying that 46 therefore is not a "holy" number...I am saying that the notion to perceive this as a "holy" number is vague at least.


As you can see your claim can be approached from various different angles with various independent questions.
The answers to these questions are either non-existent or vague.
The claim you made (although not inherently dismissible) is vague by its presumptions.

Thank you for this post, very well written in a few words, and well said. 

RB

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2013, 04:05:08 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

Greetings AVG,

I must disagree with your choice of words when you said these words:  "The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe."~magic book? But it is a inspired book given to us by the God of heaven and earth.

Also: "with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe."~You and I both know that the scriptures are~"God hidden mysteries" concerning all things that pertains to life and godliness, not so much as understanding the universe per say, other than, it was created for him, to serve his eternal purposes, that he purpose within himself.

Colossians 1:16,17

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

I would not totally disagree with you, only your choice of words. Choosing our words carefully keep others from forming a wrong impression of our beliefs, or they might be forming the right understanding, if our understanding is not according to the word of God.

RB 


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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 04:36:40 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA?
NO.


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Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit.
No it did not.  Human DNA came into existence when God made us.
Do you think Adam and Eve had no DNA before the fall?

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 04:48:16 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA?
NO.


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Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit.
No it did not.  Human DNA came into existence when God made us.
Do you think Adam and Eve had no DNA before the fall?

EDEN2004~Dave has a good point here, what do you have to say?  I am not picking on you, but I am following this post and want to learn.  RB

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 04:48:52 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

Greetings AVG,

I must disagree with your choice of words when you said these words:  "The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe."~magic book? But it is a inspired book given to us by the God of heaven and earth.

Also: "with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe."~You and I both know that the scriptures are~"God hidden mysteries" concerning all things that pertains to life and godliness, not so much as understanding the universe per say, other than, it was created for him, to serve his eternal purposes, that he purpose within himself.

Colossians 1:16,17

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

I would not totally disagree with you, only your choice of words. Choosing our words carefully keep others from forming a wrong impression of our beliefs, or they might be forming the right understanding, if our understanding is not according to the word of God.

RB 

As far as I can see Colossians 1:16-17 talks about Jesus. So all mysteries of the universe are in Jesus.
I am saying that the Bible is not a magic book that contains hidden answers to mysteries of the universe.
See, I talk about the Bible, you talk about Jesus.

Unless you disagree with me that the Bible and Jesus are not one and the same thing, then obviously the verses in Colossians are not applicable.

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 04:54:13 AM »
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Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit.
No it did not.  Human DNA came into existence when God made us.
Do you think Adam and Eve had no DNA before the fall?
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Slippery question and either way impossible to prove.
One thing we know for sure, creation before the fall was significantly different from creation after the fall.
We just don't know how much different.

Theoretically, Adam and Eve could not have had DNA...who knows?

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2013, 08:16:47 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA? It most certainly does, if you know how to identify it. DNA is the blueprint of life which is found in the chromosomes, of which, humans have 46. With this knowledge in mind, consider the passage below.

Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

God in his infinite wisdom reveals the existence of DNA by associating the true temple which is the body of Jesus with the number 46. The phrase “Forty and six” is found exactly 3 times in the King James Bible, which points to another uniquely human attribute: Body, Soul, and Spirit.

And once again, in the book of Genesis God reveals the existence of DNA in the 46 words spoken to Eve by the serpent.

Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit. The more I read the bible, the more amazed I am, it is an awesome book; all the mysteries of the world are revealed in it.


There are thousands of similar claims available on the internet, all with the Bible as basis.
Some of these claims say that the world ended 60 years ago (which it didn't), and I bet you will be able to find some claims that the world will end tomorrow.
People have been, and are juggling with numbers, tokens and signs...and are more often wrong than right.

It is really awesome that like reading the Bible and you should continue.
But don't put your hopes on vague claims and disputable statements. You are likely to become disillusioned and very disappointed.
The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe.

Although highly entertaining, you are better off leaving speculation to those who have nothing better to do :)

Greetings AVG,

I must disagree with your choice of words when you said these words:  "The Bible is not a magic book with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe."~magic book? But it is a inspired book given to us by the God of heaven and earth.

Also: "with hidden answers to the mysteries of the universe."~You and I both know that the scriptures are~"God hidden mysteries" concerning all things that pertains to life and godliness, not so much as understanding the universe per say, other than, it was created for him, to serve his eternal purposes, that he purpose within himself.

Colossians 1:16,17

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

I would not totally disagree with you, only your choice of words. Choosing our words carefully keep others from forming a wrong impression of our beliefs, or they might be forming the right understanding, if our understanding is not according to the word of God.

RB 

As far as I can see Colossians 1:16-17 talks about Jesus. So all mysteries of the universe are in Jesus.
I am saying that the Bible is not a magic book that contains hidden answers to mysteries of the universe.
See, I talk about the Bible, you talk about Jesus.

Unless you disagree with me that the Bible and Jesus are not one and the same thing, then obviously the verses in Colossians are not applicable.


They are not one and the same. The scriptures testify of Jesus, and that which testify of a person, is not the object/thing/person that it is testifying of. John 5:39
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Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit.
No it did not.  Human DNA came into existence when God made us.
Do you think Adam and Eve had no DNA before the fall?




AVZ said: "Slippery question and either way impossible to prove.
One thing we know for sure, creation before the fall was significantly different from creation after the fall.
We just don't know how much different.

Theoretically, Adam and Eve could not have had DNA...who knows?"


1. AVZ said: "As far as I can see Colossians 1:16-17 talks about Jesus. So all mysteries of the universe are in Jesus.
I am saying that the Bible is not a magic book that contains hidden answers to mysteries of the universe.
See, I talk about the Bible, you talk about Jesus.

Unless you disagree with me that the Bible and Jesus are not one and the same thing, then obviously the verses in Colossians are not applicable."......


They are not one and the same. The scriptures testify of Jesus, and that which testify of a person, is not the object/thing/person that it is testifying of. John 5:39

2. They had to, for they were our first parents, and from them all flesh comes, and the life of all flesh is in the blood. Lev. 17:11

Acts 17:26a

"And hath made of ONE BLOOD all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth...."

If we have DNA so did Adman and Eve.

RB
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 10:51:22 AM »
1. AVZ said: "As far as I can see Colossians 1:16-17 talks about Jesus. So all mysteries of the universe are in Jesus.
I am saying that the Bible is not a magic book that contains hidden answers to mysteries of the universe.
See, I talk about the Bible, you talk about Jesus.

Unless you disagree with me that the Bible and Jesus are not one and the same thing, then obviously the verses in Colossians are not applicable."......


They are not one and the same. The scriptures testify of Jesus, and that which testify of a person, is not the object/thing/person that it is testifying of. John 5:39

2. They had to, for they were our first parents, and from them all flesh comes, and the life of all flesh is in the blood. Lev. 17:11

Acts 17:26a

"And hath made of ONE BLOOD all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth...."

If we have DNA so did Adman and Eve.

RB

1. so you agree with me. well, good.

2. I keep it quick. If the fall never happened, obviously Bible verses like Leviticus and Acts would likely not have existed.
Certainly the verse in Leviticus should draw your attention because we know that life is not in the blood.

Anyway, the message here is: We really do not know the specific conditions of creation before the fall.
The serpent appears to have had legs, and animals changed their behavior...all attributes we now describe to DNA.
For all we know God had a plan to create millions more humans, like He did with the angels, instead of sexual reproduction.

Though I agree with you that likely Adam and Eve had DNA claiming, I have DNA so Adam and Eve had DNA is assumptive.

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 11:17:49 AM »
Does the bible talk about DNA?
NO.


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Human DNA as we know it today came into existence with the eating of the forbidden fruit.
No it did not.  Human DNA came into existence when God made us.
Do you think Adam and Eve had no DNA before the fall?


Do you think Adam and Eve were created with DNA that had cancer, epilepsy, Downs Syndrome, lying, cheating, and death in it?

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Re: DNA and the Bible
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2013, 11:25:38 AM »
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Do you think Adam and Eve were created with DNA that had cancer, epilepsy, Downs Syndrome, lying, cheating, and death in it?

The first 3 are clearly mutations following the fall.

The next 2 are not biologic issues at all; but may be in some spiritual analog to DNA.

Death is the curse God visited upon mankind for disobedience: "In the day you eat of it you shall surely die."