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Does tithing really work
« on: August 17, 2013, 03:07:52 AM »
On the 700 club they always talk about these people who have no money or live paycheck to paycheck. these people tithed and received a better job or some kind of money. I don't think there is any thing wrong with tithing but how can you tithe when you have very little money ? When the bill collectors call can I ask them to wait till I receive money from god for tithing?

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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 03:42:25 AM »
I have heard this also and I tried it once about 15 years ago when I was very hard up and a single parent. I did it for 5 months, even though I was badly in debt, and the only difference after that was that I was even worse off. AT the end I felt God saying to me this. "I dont want you to think that the only reason I will provide for you is because you have given away a 10% of your income" In other words, it was never going to work, because God provides because we are his children, and not because of WE do.
Some people in my church do believe that God blesses you more if you tithe, but in the main they are the ones who are already well off and not the poorer ones,(both of whom tithe). Not sure how they explain that people with far less than them and who also tithe, don't get the same financial blessings as they do.

To me another question I have is that if we are in debt it isn't our money to give anyway, it belongs to whoever we are in debt to and it isnt ours to give away.
I am sure you will hear of people who say they did tithe and were immediately financially blessed and got out of debt, but I can only give what happened to me as my experience.

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2013, 06:18:05 AM »
First, I tithe, even sometimes when I'm not sure I will be able to pay my own bills. Tithing works, unless you're doing it for personal gain.
 In My Opinion, if you send money to someone who lives in a mansion, with a garage full of expensive cars, you might as well throw your money out of your car window and hope some homeless person finds it. Do a search on religious scams and see what you come up with. Political organizations masquerading as religious organizations in some cases, when working for poor or disadvantaged or spreading the gospel is not their primary concern.
 If you give your money, make sure you can actually see some results from it. Give to your local Church or organization that helps spread the gospel through their actions. You don't have to give money you don't have or can't afford. Your time and personal contact or help is worth more in many cases.
 If you think this subject touches a nerve? You are absolutely correct. Not much, if anything, worse than people making their fortunes from the poor and claiming they do it for God. TV preachers are the worst. IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 07:24:16 AM »
I believe that tithing works. It doesn't make us rich. But it detaches us from having things and puts God first. God provides for our needs, of course. He provides whether we tithe or not. But when we tithe not only do we give to God what is justly his but we are also able to see God providing in our lives more clearly.

So tithing both is just to God, an opportunity to grow in faith and virtue and one more way to witness God working in our lives. It's not a gimmick to get rich in this world. It is a means to store up treasure in heaven which will pay back a hundred fold.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2013, 09:51:10 AM »
I personally don't tithe as I find it too complicated to work out percentages and stuff and whether it be weekly or monthly, or based on wage or profit.

I find one time offerings are biblical and so offer resources to God, when I am led to give.

He that lendeth to the Lord shall be repaid.

I am against borrowing money to give to ministries, this leads to more debt, the very problem that needs to be eliminated.

Better to find a penny under sofa and then sow that penny and believe a miracle of finances, rather than borrow $50 and hope for a miracle while sinking $50 in debt.


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Re: Does tithing really work
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2013, 10:33:45 AM »
On the 700 club they always talk about these people who have no money or live paycheck to paycheck. these people tithed and received a better job or some kind of money. I don't think there is any thing wrong with tithing but how can you tithe when you have very little money ? When the bill collectors call can I ask them to wait till I receive money from god for tithing?

As much as I commend the 700 Club for spreading the message of God (even despite being that I'm Catholic), I do not agree with many of the testimonies given on the program.

In the biblical sense, much of those people are not in poverty. They wish upon a more fruitful life that already bears ample fruit. It simply frustrates me to think that God would bless their lives when they are already many hills above others.

Because of that, I believe that there may be a bit of naivety, or perhaps even fanaticism, that mars the program. On the subject of tithing, I do not think the Bible says that it promises wealth or something greater of the person. It rather seems to insinuate that it is a responsibility for society to uphold their churches and clergymen.

Albeit, tithing is a good work, and an even greater work when those with little money still give to their church. But Godly work is in vain if it is put forward just to reap a reward- the meaning becomes immaterial to the person, and so saying that tithing will definitively make your life better is a dangerous notion to tell others.










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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 10:42:10 AM »
On the 700 club they always talk about these people who have no money or live paycheck to paycheck. these people tithed and received a better job or some kind of money. I don't think there is any thing wrong with tithing but how can you tithe when you have very little money ? When the bill collectors call can I ask them to wait till I receive money from god for tithing?
Tithing doesn't "work." God does. Unfortunately, you can't use tithing to twist God's arm. It isn't a magical incantation that guarantees God is going to give you money.

We tithe (if we do) because we love people, not because we expect some quid pro quo from God.

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2013, 12:45:57 PM »
Most of us wants God to give, and we return.
The real challenge is for us to give and see God return.

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Re: Does tithing really work
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 01:45:21 AM »
Tithing works very well for its intended purpose... supporting the Levitical priesthood.  But if your church doesn't use Levitical priests, then maybe tithing won't work so well for you.

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2013, 04:52:43 AM »
What a very strange question!

Presumably  asked because  of all these false Apostles and self proclaimed prophets who have twisted the scriptures   and seek to make merchandise of Gods people.

Tithing is an act of worship as is any giving to God. It is not for getting something  back . You can give  and  not love. But you cannot love and not give.
God so loved the world.

and albeit  He knew that "My Word that goeth forth out of my mouth shall not return unto me void but shall  accomplish that where unto I sent it"
Tell me, in all that Jesus  did where is it recorded or even implicated   he sought a reward for His giving?
But rather gave out of a full and cheerful heart knowing it was His fathers will.

Does it work? What a question.

What work do you expect it to do?

Make you rich? get you what you want?

Is it thought you can Bribe God  to give you what you want?
God has promised  to supply our every NEED  in Christ Jesus.
NOT give us what we want.
To those who think that if we stick the name of Jesus  at the end of a prayer God is obliged  to give us what ever we ask for  belies the fact  that some "ask amiss"
and sticking the name of Jesus  at the end of a prayer is NOT praying in Jesus name.

Tell me that poor widow woman who gave all that she had.
and the rich  who gave  of their tithes  .Who did Jesus commend?

perhaps as with every thing else  a person should  get a comprehensive concordance  of an accurate translation of the sdriptures and look up EVERY place where the word tithe is mentioned  and see let the scriptures speak for themselves  rather then listen to every Tom dick or self proclaimed 'apostle' or 'prophet'

or else  find a man of God who by definition is NOT  a hireling and a church that preaches and honours the WHOLE council of God and not any denominational theological prejudices and traditions.
and learn  from them.

There are  some .You just have to seek for them.

in Christ
gerald

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2013, 05:45:35 AM »
Tithing is the training wheels of giving.

When I gave my life to God that meant all wages I earn are His. The success or failure of my life is God's responsibility as any parents is for their children. My job is to earn all I can. I keep what money I need to pay expenses & give away the rest as it is God's to begin with.

There have been many times I thought I was gonna be out on the street begging for bread but God has seen to it that it wouldn't happen.

Now I'm not rich by any stretch of earthly imagination.  But at the same time God will let me have any portion of Heaven's rescources I need to get by as well.

Money here on earth is simply a tool. Its not a prize or measure of a person's worth. People value it so you have to use it wisely including when giving it away. God made all the riches on this planet. He is my Father/Friend. I have no need (unless He says to) to amass great quantities of money for myself. I simply need to ensure the relationship we have with each other. I will/am expending my life in his service and He has promised to lift me up on the last day. I have no doubt He will.

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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 06:24:32 AM »
Tithing is the training wheels of giving.

When I gave my life to God that meant all wages I earn are His. The success or failure of my life is God's responsibility as any parents is for their children. My job is to earn all I can. I keep what money I need to pay expenses & give away the rest as it is God's to begin with.

There have been many times I thought I was gonna be out on the street begging for bread but God has seen to it that it wouldn't happen.

Now I'm not rich by any stretch of earthly imagination.  But at the same time God will let me have any portion of Heaven's rescources I need to get by as well.

Money here on earth is simply a tool. Its not a prize or measure of a person's worth. People value it so you have to use it wisely including when giving it away. God made all the riches on this planet. He is my Father/Friend. I have no need (unless He says to) to amass great quantities of money for myself. I simply need to ensure the relationship we have with each other. I will/am expending my life in his service and He has promised to lift me up on the last day. I have no doubt He will.

Thank you JohnDB~what a humble and God honoring testimony.  The Lord bless you, as you walk and serve him.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2013, 07:32:44 AM »
Tithing is a good principle, but God directed giving is as well. This idea of 'giving your way out of debt' I dont believe is Biblical, especially if the one saying it clearly wants you to give it to them. Many TV evangelists, such as those on the 770 club, live very well on the debt of others. Maybe what they need to do is to use their wealth to help the poor, rather than expecting the poor to get more in debt to give to them.

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2013, 07:55:57 AM »
Tithing works very well for its intended purpose... supporting the Levitical priesthood.  But if your church doesn't use Levitical priests, then maybe tithing won't work so well for you.

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2013, 08:49:39 AM »
I believe that tithing works. It doesn't make us rich. But it detaches us from having things and puts God first. God provides for our needs, of course. He provides whether we tithe or not. But when we tithe not only do we give to God what is justly his but we are also able to see God providing in our lives more clearly.

So tithing both is just to God, an opportunity to grow in faith and virtue and one more way to witness God working in our lives. It's not a gimmick to get rich in this world. It is a means to store up treasure in heaven which will pay back a hundred fold.

Excellent points.

If we regard everything we have as God's provision, then we can thank God for his generosity in letting us keep 90% for ourselves.  ::smile::