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« on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 09:56:48 »
Things have gotten quite dull here, as we wait with great anticipation for the 'GCM Surprise,' so why don't we discuss whether it would be appropriate for women to play instrumental music during the Lord's Supper.

I'll go first.  I think it depends on the music.  If it was something composed by Bach or a hymn written by Isaac Watts, I'd have no problem with it.  However, I would object to any arrangement of a Bill Gaither or Steve Green work.

What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 09:58:27 »
Would she have her head covered?

Does the church have a kitchen?

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« Reply #2 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:11:59 »
Is she barefoot and pregnant, wearing a burkah?

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« Reply #3 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:29:48 »
I'm OK with it as long as the song cannot be considered Contemporary Christian Music.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:31:47 »
I wonder what the Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians thought Paul would think about this issue?

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« Reply #5 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:35:40 »
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I wonder what the Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians thought Paul would think about this issue?
I'm sure that they, too, thought CCM was pathetic.
BTW, what is the \"GCM surprise\" for which we wait?[/color]

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« Reply #6 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:38:33 »
I would say it would have to be behind a curtain like in the Wizard of Oz.

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« Reply #7 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:41:42 »
I bet it's a rousing instrumental-only rendition of Lee Greenwood's \"Proud to be an American\", played by a woman, using only her toes, on a hot pink Liberachi-esque organ.

Now wouldn't that be somthing....

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« Reply #8 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:42:17 »
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BTW, what is the \"GCM surprise\" for which we wait?
You can check out the thread in the General Discussion forum, and add your own speculation.

I'm holding out for a GCM beverage koozie.

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« Reply #9 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 10:49:22 »
Or an antenna ball.

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« Reply #10 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 11:44:20 »
Free iPods for everyone!

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« Reply #11 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 11:49:31 »
Shame on you guys for trying to highjack this very important issue--WRIM/LS.

 ::back to topic::

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« Reply #12 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 11:56:32 »
Theologically it would be fine, but organ music just doesn't agree with me.

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« Reply #13 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 11:59:20 »
It's the part about her playing with her toes that bugs me.

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« Reply #14 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 12:04:13 »
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It's the part about her playing with her toes that bugs me.
Is that pedagoguery?

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« Reply #15 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 12:16:01 »
tidbit,   you're way over my head.   What is ??????
that big word you used.  ???     :D

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« Reply #16 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 12:22:06 »
I think I misspoke.  I think it should be 'pedalgoguery.'

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« Reply #17 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 12:25:11 »
BTW--

ped·a·gogue (pĕd'ə-gŏg', -gôg') n.

   1. A schoolteacher; an educator.
   2. One who instructs in a pedantic or dogmatic manner.


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pe·dan·tic (pə-dăn'tĭk) adj.

Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.

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« Reply #18 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 12:33:07 »
Why the objection to Gaither or Steve Green?  Seems kind of pointless and arbitrary.

ALL music was \"contemporary\" at some point in time.  Many of those dear old hymns we love so well are set to tunes from old drinking songs sung in the taverns.

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« Reply #19 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 13:16:33 »
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Why the objection to Gaither or Steve Green?  Seems kind of pointless and arbitrary.
One word--slippery slope!

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ALL music was \"contemporary\" at some point in time.  Many of those dear old hymns we love so well are set to tunes from old drinking songs sung in the taverns.

OD

It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick.  What better way to reach the unchurched, but to use drinking songs?[/color]

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« Reply #20 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 13:56:20 »
Exactly.  And what better way to at least catch the ear of an unchurched person today than with a song that sounds like it might possibly have been written AFTER 1956?

(For the record, though, research reveals that music style has very little impact on where an unchurched person might decide to go to church.)

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« Reply #21 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 14:32:56 »
It would be scriptural to have a woman play music during the Lord's Supper, as long as she played only Stamps-Baxter songs.  All of our members over 70 years of age really love those contemporary Stamps-Baxter numers!

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« Reply #22 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 14:34:44 »
Oops!  Spelling error!  Meant to say \"nummers.\"

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« Reply #23 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 14:36:22 »
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Why the objection to Gaither or Steve Green?  Seems kind of pointless and arbitrary.
One word -

Drek.

Horrid, wretched, stomach-turning, squishy-gooshy drek.

So drek-like,  it approaches the level of internet glurge.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 15:27:56 »
I like some of their stuff.  Have not heard all of it.  I like point of grace, twila paris, rich mullins, and others.  who sings \"I've been crucified with christ\"  I've gone blank:  phillip, craig and dean or something like that.  Great song.

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« Reply #25 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 16:13:58 »
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One word--slippery slope!
I think I know why I haven't seen many (any?) posts from you in the five word thread.   :D[/color]

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« Reply #26 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 16:18:31 »
Gregorian Chant. Sweetest church music ever sung IMHO!

'Course I also like Amy Grant.

Pax.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 19:30:18 »
Hard for our organist to play Gregorian chant.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 20:30:01 »
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Why the objection to Gaither or Steve Green?  Seems kind of pointless and arbitrary.
One word--slippery slope!

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ALL music was \"contemporary\" at some point in time.  Many of those dear old hymns we love so well are set to tunes from old drinking songs sung in the taverns.

OD

It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick.  What better way to reach the unchurched, but to use drinking songs?[/color]
My favorite drinking song is \"To Anacreon in Heaven,\" but the high note near the end is hard to hit.   :americanflag:

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« Reply #29 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 20:53:46 »
Yeah, but, as a drinking song, it is usually heard by large groups of drunks, say in bars, ballparks, basketball arenas--and drunks can't usually tell whether you missed that Key. :p

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« Reply #30 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 21:12:26 »
The depth of this deep theological discussion is just beyond all comprehension  :help:

A kinda of think the Gaither song Ken Young and Hallal sang called \"Saved by Grace\" would be quite appropriate, EVEN if it was just by the little old woman on the organ.   :whistle:

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« Reply #31 on: Fri Jan 13, 2006 - 23:01:32 »
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Hard for our organist to play Gregorian chant.
It can be approximated. I have a recording of synthesized Gregorian Chant which is quite nice.

Pax.

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« Reply #32 on: Sat Jan 14, 2006 - 07:19:23 »
Hmmm...

Drinking songs...

\"How dry I a-a-a-a-m...
How wet I'll be-e-e-e-...
If I get i-i-i-i-n
The bap-tiss-tre-e-e-e...\"

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« Reply #33 on: Sat Jan 14, 2006 - 08:50:42 »
Oh, by the way --

Here are some approved a cappella singers to help that poor deluded organ-woman:

*snicker*

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« Reply #34 on: Sat Jan 14, 2006 - 08:54:43 »
Oh -- and another thing --

I thought church leaders were supposed to have ... *ahem* ... ORGANS.

 

     
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