Quite frankly, I don't agree with much of anything you posted there. But I have been through it so many times in the past with you and others that it is useless to go through it all again. In a nutshell, who are the Israelites chosen for salvation? Clearly they are the ones who believed in God.
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who ..... who are chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father....(1Pe 1:1-2)
What foreknowledge? God's foreknowledge that they would believe in Him and love Him: And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. (Rom 8:28-30)
I understand your disagreement. But disagreeing is different from refuting what the other is saying. Besides, if you want people to see that what you say is the truth, then by all means, show them by refuting the contrary view. That one have the light of truth, is reason enough to let the light shine to all and refute those who tries to put it off. And so, I do here.
You brought up the choosing of the apostles, with the exception of Judas, that they were saved, not because they were elected, but because they ended up believing. And I gave you a refutation of that. I was expecting for you to make a defense or counter refutation. The absence of a counter refutation only means that my refutation stands.
That would be the same case with Israel. In all my post in this thread regarding them, directly and indirectly, I had shown you a lot. One is, who they are and how God had chosen them and what is the purpose of God's election of them. That by the election of grace, God had chosen them for Himself to be His people. That, by itself speaks loud and clear that they, with definiteness and absolute certainty, that God will bring that about and make them actually His people. I had also shown that they were chosen by God, not based on the works of these men, but by the sovereign will and purpose of God. I had also shown that their election as coming to be a people, was not by their choice and doing, but was brought about purposely by God, by the election of grace, such was with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. That they are the children of God was not by their choice and doing, but by God's making of them to be His children (That is the adoption spoken of by Paul of them in Romans 9). That they have God's law was not by their choice and doing, but God giving them His law. That they have God's wonderful and good promises, of blessings upon blessings, even a heavenly place and eternal life, is not by their choice and doing, nor is because of any good work they have done, nor because they are righteous, but God had freely made such promises to them, which later we learn is because of His great love for mankind. This unconditional love is seen and felt, and flows through the men whom He have freely and unconditionally chosen, such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the rest of the children of God ~ the children of promise, the Israel of God. And needless to say, the promise is sure to all of them, not because of their choice and doing, but because God had freely and unconditionally promised it to them, that He will surely do, and so will surely come to pass.
Having said that, let me once again refute what this you bring up here. You said:"In a nutshell, who are the Israelites chosen for salvation? Clearly they are the ones who believed in God."
Yes, certainly they are those who believe in God. But it is not enough today, to say they are those who believed in God, for we should not fall short of saying that they are those who believe in the name of Jesus Christ. This I have already shown you in reply #28, that they are the Christians. And that you have not even attempted to refute that.
You appeal to this scriptures:Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who ..... who are chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father....(1Pe 1:1-2)
So, let's see what it says.
1 Pet. 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (KJV)
For better readability, I'll use NIV.1 Pet. 1:2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
There is no doubt that the children of God are elect, that is, chosen.
Now, with regards to that election, you said "What foreknowledge? God's foreknowledge that they would believe in Him and love Him"
. But that view is lacking.
The foreknowledge (Gr. prognosin) of God refers, of course, to what God knows beforehand. But the foreknowledge of God is more than mere foresight. It involves choice or determination as well. So do not forget, God's foreknowledge has an element of determinism in it. Whatever happens that which God knows beforehand, takes place because of His sovereign will. Whatever really happens that God sees ahead before it actually happens or transpires, is not a random product of some random events, or something that happens by chance, but is something that happens according to His determinate counsel and deliberate plan. (You may well have to study and look into Acts 2:23 concerning this sense of God's foreknowledge.) So, Peter in saying of the Christian in 1 Pet. 1:2, he could not have meant that they were elected by God because He came to know they would believe the gospel in the future reality, by His foreknowledge. Such even makes no real sense. For if and when these people would believe the gospel in the future reality, elected or not, what sense is there that God looks into the future to know that they would believe in the gospel, and then elects them? In other words, for what, when whether God elects them or not, they would be believing the gospel?
Now, considering that God is omniscient, God's knowing all things beforehand would be all inclusive, that is, all people and everything else. This sense, in the subject verse 1 Pet.1:2, must be taken into consideration. For, the matter of the Christians being "elected by God", because of God's foreknowledge, would render the unbelievers as being "elected by God" as well by the same reason, which makes no much of a sense and significance. It brings no real meaning and significance then, and makes no difference, that the apostles referred to the Christians as the elect of God or taken as were elected by God. This argument also applies in the matter of the Christians' predestination. For then, even the unbeliever is predestined by God. through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood
This election by God of the Christians, clearly is accomplished by the Holy Spirit when He separated the elect and set them aside to a special calling, that is, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with his blood. The sanctification here, that is, the setting aside of the elect unto obedience to Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with his blood, runs in conflict to your view of the foreknowledge of God. For such implies, that when it became known to God, by His foreknowledge, those who will believe, that God afterwards somewhat change plan as to sanctify them only then to be obedient to Jesus Christ. It is not as though God made His plan by having an initial plan and then look into the future, then reconsiders that which He came to know by His foreknowledge and revise His plan accordingly, and repeats the process, until He came up with a final plan, all things considered. I don't think God thinks and works that way, simply because He is God and is not man.
One other thing, interestingly, this sanctification by the Holy Spirit, teaches us, that the elect's obedience to Jesus Christ and their being sprinkled with Christ's blood, is predestined upon them. This may well be pointing to what Paul said in Romans 8:29.