RB, you quoted John: And in your mind you interpret that as Your assumption being that, after being ascended into heaven to once again reside with God, the Father, Jesus is literally the same animate being that was raised from the tomb. Of course, you are not alone in thinking that. And you could be correct in that assumption. However, I think that is a serious belittling and disparaging of the real glories of heaven. If
you mean having a LIVING BODY, then I have never
said the Father and the Son were ever
in that sense after
his birth and even more so after his resurrection from the dead. Jesus Christ was the Son of God from conception, death, and resurrection and will be world without end, that will NEVER change.
The mystery of godliness also reveals to us Jesus Christ is the Everlasting Father of ALL THINGS
. This could only be so according to his Deity being ONE with the Father in his Divine nature.
That being said, it is very clear in the word of God that God is a Spirit
that inhabiteth eternity~always has, and ALWAYS WILL
, that will never change. This God had a Son, who was made flesh and blood, who in the likeness of sinful flesh please the Father in all things perfectly from conception to his death by the hands of wicked men, and since he knew no sin, death, and the grave had no power over him
thereby, he was raised from the grave who now EVER LIVETH in the SAME BODY, though glorified~ being subject to God because of his HUMANITY being the Son of Man, YET it is written:
Philippians 2:6-11~"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Jesus Christ is the very express image of God
to the glory of his Father and this he was in the FLESH~when he see Jesus then we shall see God and I might add, THE ONLY way possible for any man, or even angels to see God, for God is a SPIRIT with INFINITE attributes that makes him impossible to be seen by anyone EXCEPT the Son who has been in the bosom of the Father from everlasting to everlasting.
1st Timothy 3:16~"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
We can only
grasp hold of this so long as we keep Jesus' complex natures separated, his Divinity and his humanity~when Jesus lived in this world around two thousand years ago, the angels saw God for the FIRST TIME
, if we hear what Paul is saying to us~The Word which was God, (period) was made flesh when God JOINED HIMSELF to the tabernacle of His Son and lived in this world~preached unto us, and men such as John the beloved apostle saw with his eyes and his hands handled him!
1st John 1:1-3~"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."
We have not seen with our eyes, but have heard and now enjoy that fellowship in a small measure of the mystery of godliness.
A spiritual body, whatever it is, is not a natural body, not an animate body
Of course it is not a natural body~now, I'll wait for you to explain exactly what YOU mean by animate body, if it is other than just a living body, I'm not sure what you
mean, until you
understanding of that.