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« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2009, 03:10:00 AM »

Well, that was probably my mistake in my perception of your point, gospel . . .

I have to admit this discussion is a little hard to follow at times.

Its just amazing to me how anyone could believe in a poor destitute homeless Jesus despite all the scripture to the contrary.

Non believers and people who do not actually read the bible I can understand because most of them believe what they believe out of the commonality of tradition

Common sense dictates that if some kings and magistrates traveled hundreds of miles to give some gifts to see the baby Jesus, honoring Him as a King.... indeed those gifts had to be somewhat significant

It just seems no matter what scriptures one posts, someone who loves tradition will continue to cling to those and discount the Truth of the Scriptures.

For Gods sakes, someone, some believer, some follower of Jesus.... owned the upper room and we know that seated at least 120 people.  Pondering

We know whoever owned it was not poor.
Neither did the average poor person own fishing vessels either and neither do I

Think about it Pondering

Well, I know that it is said about Christ that being the Son of God he did not grasp, and he did happen to be born in a manger. He definitely has rich friends.

Nothing wrong with having resources to put back toward the Lord.  Smile
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« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2009, 01:11:54 PM »

Thanks Cally!

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Well, I know that it is said about Christ that being the Son of God he did not grasp,


Meaning as Deity He lowered Himself to be born of a woman and put on flesh as to identify Himself with man

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and he did happen to be born in a manger.

There was no room in the inn, meaning they had money to get a room

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He definitely has rich friends.

Definitely
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Nothing wrong with having resources to put back toward the Lord.

Exactly!
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« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2009, 04:50:38 PM »

I have to admit I've avoided the sort of person for a while that says "I'm being poor/sick for the Lord"

. . . and I think, "what, if somebody handed you a check for a million bucks you'd throw it out? Or if someone handed you a cure for cancer you'd throw it out? Nah, you'd be saying 'praise the Lord,' and such."

I mean on the one hand it is God's will for us to struggle through trials, but since the trials came from God in the first place they're supposed to be redeemable in some way. Lazarus was poor and it was clearly God's will for him to die poor, and take him up to heaven, but hey, he spent time begging and trying to get out of his situation.
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« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2009, 10:17:41 PM »

Although there are certainly folks on this board that think the "prosperity gospel" is acceptable Christian doctrine, I for one (and I'm know not alone), see it for the damnable lie that it is.

For starters, you won't find it anywhere in Jesus' teachings. That's why they have to add the word "prosperity"to it because it's a later invention that Christ must have "overlooked" somehow.

That should silence the argument right there, but because we moderns have a tendency to demote Jesus' actual teachings by searching anywhere else in the bible to support our greed (which happens to be idolatry), it doesn't.

BTW, for those who were interested in the point of trivia about how much the queen of Sheba brought for Solomon, it was 666 talents worth of gold. Thankfully, one wiser than Solomon visited the earth and shared all His love and wisdom with even the poorest of the poor for free.

But back to the point of the OP, it really is a choice between working for God or working for money folks. Look closely at what Jesus said and did, and forget all about me and you'll see that this is far more consistent with Christ's life and teachings than any other attempts to get us bowing down in front of another (figurative) golden cow.
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