It's simple Brother

I'll post it again and you pray on after you have read everyone's post again

Gen 47:15 And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us bread: for why should we die in thy presence?  for the money faileth.

God never fails!

It is written money fails.

it is not written where God fails.

do you get it now?

You're absolutely right.

Joanna the wife of Cuza, the manager of Herod's household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.
Luke 8:3

As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. Matthew 27:57

and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed
him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn
Luke 2:7
 
Because there was no room, not because they were poor and destitute

On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold and of incense and of myrrh Matthew 2:11

Unfortunately many people believe there were only 3 Magi - (strates) foreign diplomats who visited Jesus. But the citing of 3 is no where in scripture. History supports that these were noble men from Babylon who knew of the prophecy of the Messiah because of the writings of Daniel.

Riding through what would have been to them as Babylonians, hostile Roman territory they certainly would have not come in a small group but rather a caravan.

Whats my point?
Do you think they gave Jesus little trinkets of gold or gold worthy of a King such as what Kings, nobles and dignitaries give other Kings, nobles and dignitaries.
Case in point Sheba and Solomon.

Long story short Jesus was not poor and destitute as tradition would have us believe ...neither was He homeless

John 1:39   He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.

Below is some further info on Frankincense and Myrrh, you'll find these were very valuable gifts, especially during Jesus day....and one must seriouslly doubt the Magi- strates traveled hundreds of miles to give Jesus trinkets and a few sticks of incense

Be that as it may, many people will insist upon sticking to and believing traditions passed down by men not found in scripture rather than that which is obvious according to scripture

    *  Almost all frankincense comes from western Oman, where it is used for everything from deodorant and toothpaste to food and drink flavoring.
    * Frankincense and myrrh were so expensive in Europe that southern Arabia became known as Arabia Felix, “Arabia the Blessed.”
    * Because frankincense was in high demand from Europe to Asia, the kingdoms of southern Arabia became an integral part of global economy with shipping connections to India, the Mediterranean and the Silk Road.
    * Some of the earliest uses of the camel as a domesticated beast of burden took place in southern Arabia in order to make overland transport of frankincense and myrrh possible.
    * The Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Israelites and numerous other cultures used frankincense and myrrh as part of their religious ceremonies.
    * Frankincense and myrrh were extensively used in burial rituals as an embalming material, an offering to the departed and a means to cover the odor of the dead body.
    * The Roman emperor, Nero, burned an entire year’s harvest of frankincense at the funeral of his favorite mistress.
    * Frankincense has traditionally been used as a remedy for a wide variety of afflictions, including ulcers, hypertension, nausea, fever, indigestion, chest coughs and post-childbirth recovery.
    * The smoke from burning frankincense drives away mosquitoes and other flying insects, reducing incidences of malaria in afflicted regions.
    * Myrrh is also used medicinally to treat sore throats, cramps, inflammation, colic and digestive problems.

"gospel", why do you think it is that when you (or others) offer some input on this subject it is ok, but if I (in particular) do the same thing it is usually regarded as "beating a dead horse".

The point being that most of us have already heard similar arguments to the ones that you're raising, so if anything, that is where the beating of a dead horse is taking place.

On the other hand, the things that have been shared about Jesus blessing the poor, while nearly cursing the rich ("woe to you who are rich") do indicate something quite a bit more unique to the churches. I say nearly because hell would be the final "curse" dished out to people like the one in Jesus' story of Lazarus (the beggar) and the rich man.

 Also, keep in mind the teaching that "it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle (and it really is a sewing needle that Jesus is talking about) than it is for a rich man to get into heaven".

And about this quote:

John 1:39   He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.

Does it say anything about a house, apartment, or some other clues that would tell us that it is definitely INdoors, as opposed to sleeping out under the stars somewhere? That would certainly seem to fit in more with the statement Jesus made that "the Son of Man has no place to lay his head". Surely Jesus would know that you can literally lay your head to sleep in every single direction. But the point he appears to be making is that, unlike birds and foxes who have little "homes", he doesn't.

Also, I don't think you'll find anyone here arguing that Jesus was destitute, since that implies that God (the Father) wasn't doing a very good job of looking after His son. If that were the case, you might even find people throwing around the scripture that says "if you don't take care of your own family, you're worse than an infidel"!

What I am saying is that Jesus was poor in the sense that he didn't have any house or possessions to show except for some clothes that he was wearing. From this it appears that he actually practiced what he preached, i.e. not "storing up treasures on the face of the earth".

Hey, BTW "g", a quick little bit of very interesting trivia for you:

How much cash did Solomon receive from the queen of Sheba?  It's a pretty surprising and significant amount.

Gospel to cut right to the heart about what we're really talking about, God's command is to love one's neighbor as himself.

So, John the Baptist said "whoever has two tunics should share with the one who has none."

What, then, does the zero-tunics guy do? SURVIVE, while those unwilling to carry out that command worry about losing huge houses, jewelry, toys, AND their tunics while watching the poor suffer and make up philosophies and twist scripture (which writes all about such people) to condemn the poor without helping.

And I think God was/is incredibly pleased with you for doing that.   And even THEN, God shows that the poor are not ineffective because of lack of resources: "silver and gold I do not have, but what I have I give you."

Everyone works in the field, and we are each paid a denari, regardless of how much more or less we think we worked, if we simply did as the Lord commanded us.

Money, then, should be seen as a tool to fulfill that command, in some form or another, nothing more--not something that gives life and happiness in itself.

The end result of a lot of that grumbling is Jesus' words: "whoever holds onto his life will lose it."

Hence people thinking that "the economy" is the problem. Incidentally "the economy" did not get fixed back in the 30's until people's attitudes changed--and that happened to be the wake-up call that was WWII.

People got their minds on something: "Purpose." And then "the economy" got fixed. It is the Lord who enables a person to be happy with little, and it is someone's arrogance that causes him to be discontent with much.

I think the other reason for pooling resources in Acts (and I don't think anyone was forced) was for class--not that anyone should be forced, to be sure--but I'm thinking that equal lifestyles makes it easier for people to relate among each other.

I was referring to Mathew 20: 1-15.

Finally I don't have anything against people who are prosperous. I mean I think of Job who was, and mentioned that his door was always open to travelers (an implication that the rich tend to share things in some form or another). Anyway yes I hate a money-centered attitude, and so much theology these days is based on getting stuff from God . . . well, that's good but incomplete: it's meant to be INVESTED in some form. Maybe a wealthy person is doing that (and how so is none of the rest of our business, usually). But in general the government helps the poor, the government restores people to the ability to work toward their callings--several things that the church is definitely supposed to do for its members. Pretty embarrassing, although many, many of those organizations are Christian, so fortunately the same effect seems to be happening to a degree.

Cally I'm sure you realize the context of that passage is Salvation.

No matter how much work you, me or the next guy does we all are equally Saved

Otherwise I don't understand your point.

Jesus Loves and accepts the rich as well as He does the poor Scripture shows that to Jesus all that matters is the condition of one's heart.

Is it repentant and receptive of His Lordship or is it hard, fixed and unresponsive to His voice.

An additional point: This parable also points out that those who try to justify themselves by the amount of work and effort get an attitude and get angry against those who get the same end result with a lot less work.

Thought I'd point that out....

And thanks for giving me my scripture meditation for the week in Jesus Name
gospel

Well, that was probably my mistake in my perception of your point, gospel . . .

I have to admit this discussion is a little hard to follow at times.