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One of my favorite lines from the movie "Titanic" is when Mr. Ismay protests that the ship can't sink; and Mr. Andrews responds: She's made of iron, sir! I assure you, she can... and she will. It is a mathematical certainty.

There are folks at large all across the internet, and around the globe, sincerely believing that Hell isn't a place of perpetual conscious suffering. They, like Mr. Ismay, will be utterly stunned and bewildered beyond comprehension to discover it's exactly that.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,567 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 95,444,403 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than to both his body and himself. Were that not so, then Jesus would've ceased to exist when he expired on the cross, and in order to restore his corpse to life; it would've been necessary to first return the man himself to existence.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that human life is entirely physical which, for them, isn't exactly true. They hold to something called "life force" which enables the core of one's being to exist. The life force is versatile. It can be taken from a spirit body, transferred to a human body, and then transferred back again to the spirit body from whence it came.

The JW life force suggests an interesting possibility. Supposing when folks are terminated in the lake of fire per Rev 20:11-15, their life force survives to be transferred to a spirit body; enabling them to be perfectly suited to join the Devil and his angels per Matt 25:41, thus keeping the lost in existence for as long as God deems necessary to accomplish retribution for their works per Rev 20:12.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,581 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 96,297,129 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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.In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than to both his body and himself.

Be careful how you say that.  It is bordering on gnosticism.  Making too much distinction between "self" and "body" is unbiblical.

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FAQ: Do people in Hell have immortality?

REPLY: No.

FAQ: Do people in Hell have eternal life?

REPLY: No.

FAQ: If so that people in Hell have neither immortality nor eternal life, then how can it be possible their conscious suffering is perpetual?

REPLY: There's a level of existence about which I know practically nothing.

People in Hell lose their bodies when the pass on, so that rules out immortality. They keep human nature when they pass, so that rules out eternal life.

The dark side of this world consists of spirit beings. I strongly suspect that when the lost pass on, they themselves become existent as spirit beings-- but I don't think they become demons or devils or some such.

For example: the story told at Luke 16:19-31 portrays a man in Hades entirely sentient. He has a tongue, and vision, and hearing, and is capable of speech. Plus; his memories are intact, and he's capable of anxiety. From all appearances, the man is fully human except of course he's no longer physical.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,589 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 96,784,401 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Sir, God forbid that I question your sincerity, yet He commands us to rebuke error and false doctrine. Luke 16 is a parable, do you help in seeing this?  Did you watch a lot of sci-fi growing up? If the answer is yes, then I do see your problem in having a hard time with a present burning hellfire theory.

There is no such place, as a present burning hell fire~ your brother maybe saw the light of this truth before he passed on. You told us once that he was a priest that begun to even question if there was a burning hell. He certainly found out its twin brother "purgatory" was a false teaching. They go hand in hand, just in case you do not know, or have not consider this as of yet.   

People in Hell lose their bodies when the pass on, so that rules out immortality. They keep human nature when they pass, so that rules out eternal life.

Matthew 10:28
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

So people DO have their bodies in hell.  That is why the evil dead are bodily resurrected at the final judgement. 

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"Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives".

"The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-- on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam". (Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot-- on imaging from Voyager 1)

The Earth is like a death star, careening thru space, looping around and around the Sun many times over and again: a floating grave yard whose soil is filled with the dead from many centuries stretching back to Abel: the first of its passengers to return to the dust from whence they came.

• Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to spend your time at funerals than at festivals. For you are going to die, and you should think about it while there is still time.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,595 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 97,149,855 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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• Rom 8:15-16 . . For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out: Abba, Father. The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

That passage tells of a supernatural close encounter of a third kind, so to speak.

Not every Christian undergoes the experience. For example: adherents of Catholicism honestly don't know for sure where they stand with God-- we're talking about something like 1.3 billion+  people. That number represents a minimum 49% of the world's Christians. It's difficult to tag the number of Protestants because they are so diverse in their beliefs and practices.

* Rom 8:15-16 never happened for Mother Teresa. She complained in private correspondence with spiritual counselors that she felt not the slightest glimmer of the Lord's presence virtually the entire five decades of missionary work in India; leading her to wonder if there really is a God out there; and she sometimes spoke of Jesus as "the absent one".

The Spirit of adoption is supposed to make God's people feel at home; not feel left out. I don't know what went wrong with Teresa but for sure her spiritual condition was not good.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,607 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 97,880,763 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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• Heb 12:29 . . For our God is a consuming fire.

That's a quote from Deut 4:24 which, in context, doesn't describe God's physical characteristics, rather, it's a figure of speech illustrating rage: defined by Webster's as violent and uncontrolled anger. It's hard to imagine Christianity's divine patron ticked off to that extent, but there it is.

* A consuming fire is one that cannot be extinguished, i.e. once it gets going, there's no stopping till all that's aflame is utterly destroyed beyond recognition, viz: a conflagration.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,614 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 98,307,126 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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If there is such a thing as soul sleep, I won't know it, here's why:

I've been under anesthesia once for appendicitis, twice for hernias, one for a scalp lump, once for a kidney stone, twice for total knee replacements, once for a colonoscopy, once for lung cancer, and once for an endoscopy.

In none of those procedures was I aware of the passage of time. The very moment I went under was simultaneous with awakening. So if soul sleep is like that, I'll be in Heaven as if I went from here to there in less than a second of time on the clock, i.e. instantaneously. The same can be said for folks on track to face justice, i.e. there will be no delay.

TALLY UPDATE: 1,627 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 99,098,943 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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