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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #70 on: Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 13:46:20 »
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Jesus Christ had some pretty astounding capabilities. He could beef up withered limbs, cure cripples, cleanse leprosy, stop chronic bleeding, cure blindness, multiply food stuffs, calm storms, exorcise demons, restore dead people to life, and protect them from the wrath of God, etc.

In my estimation, a man who can do all that can just as easily do it in reverse; viz: wither people's limbs, cripple their legs, smite people with leprosy, make them bleed, cause them to go blind, cause famine, stir up storms, open people to demon possession and/or just outright assassinate them, and condemn them to hell; etc.

So I'm sometimes curious why Christ's enemies weren't more afraid of him.


TALLY UPDATE: 146 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 8,892,714 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #71 on: Tue Jan 29, 2019 - 09:54:32 »
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I was brought up a Catholic youth. The extent of my Catechism classes was pretty elementary. They didn't inform me that Jesus Christ was returning some day to rule the world, so it wasn't till I was around 24 years old when a Protestant man asked me if I was ready for the Lord coming back.

Well; at first the man's question puzzled me because i wasn't aware of that aspect of the Earth's future. But then right away I became alarmed because I instinctively knew that if I had to face Christ, the outcome would not be favorable as I had a lot to answer for. I learned later that my instincts were right.

"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matt 13:40-42)


TALLY UPDATE: 148 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,014,532 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #72 on: Mon Feb 04, 2019 - 12:44:33 »
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I recently watched a documentary on YouTube about Warren Buffet; the chairman and CEO of a very successful fund called Berkshire Hathaway. To date, he's like the third wealthiest man in the whole world; his net worth amounts to something like 84 billion dollars US.

Mr. Buffet identifies himself as an agnostic. Well; if traditional Christianity is correct, then we can expect that his afterlife situation will be the same as the wealthy man's depicted in Luke 16:19-31.


TALLY UPDATE: 154 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,379,986 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #73 on: Sun Feb 10, 2019 - 12:51:59 »
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Rom 12:12a . . Be glad for all God is planning for you.

Christians unsure of their afterlife destination cannot, in all honesty and a good conscience, comply with the above. For all they know, God has outer darkness planned for them. That's not something to be glad about.


TALLY UPDATE: 160 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,745,440 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #74 on: Wed May 22, 2019 - 11:17:23 »
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Matt 25:41 . .Then he will say to those on his left: Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.

The Greek word for "angels" is aggelos (ang'-el-os) which is one of the Bible's many ambiguous words. It means messenger; and it isn't limited to spirit beings.

For example at Matt 11:10 it refers to John the Baptist. A Luke 7:24 it refers to John's disciples. At Acts 7:53 and Gal 3:19 it refers to divine apparitions in the form of voices, fire, smoke, earthquakes, and a human likeness. At Jas 2:25 it refers to the spies that hid out at Rahab's home. At Rev 1:20-Rev 3:14, the word aggelos refers to high-ranking church officers.

So, we have in view at Matt 25:41 not only spirit beings, but quite possibly also human beings who serve as messengers for the Devil, e.g. preachers, ministers, Sunday school teachers, deacons, missionaries, evangelists, cultists, etc; whose version of Christianity is a doctored version rather than Christ's.

2Cor 11:13-15 . . For such are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

I have a personal interest in this matter. My eldest brother is a Friar; he and I are both now in our mid to late seventies. My brother has been spending his entire adult life obedient to Rome and propagating Catholicism. If it turns out that version of Christianity differs from Christ's, then my brother won't make it to safety when he passes on. His life's work will go up in smoke, and he'll be branded forever as one of the Devil's angels. That possibility does not set well with me.


TALLY UPDATE: 261 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 15,897,249 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #75 on: Sat Jun 15, 2019 - 21:44:03 »
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Luke 23:39-40 . . One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us! But the other criminal rebuked him. Don't you fear God, he said, since you are under the same sentence?

There's a humorous incident depicted in Dante's Inferno where these two guys are having an argument over which deserves to be in Hell more than the other. But when both are in Hell, it matters little who deserves to be there more. Having a holier-than-thou-attitude in Hell is pretty much going to get you nowhere.


TALLY UPDATE: 285 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 17,359,065 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.

BTW: The average thickness of a human hair is around .1 mm. So 17,359,065 human hairs laid side by side would spread out to something like 1,735,906 mm, equaling 68,342 inches, or 5,695 feet: which is 1.078 miles.

These days when the Federal debt is in the trillions, a million of anything seems trifle; but nevertheless, a thousand thousands is still a pretty large amount. Were someone to budget their expenses to $600 a week, they could live off a million dollars for 32 years. They could live off 17,359,065 dollars for 556 years.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #76 on: Thu Jul 04, 2019 - 21:30:59 »
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There's a variety of negative opinions about God all across the internet. Some say He's cruel, sadistic, heartless, unjust, unfair, unkind, a despotic bully, a monster, sexist, and just a general all around jerk.

Well, it matters little whether He's all that, and more. It's futile to criticize God and rake Him across the coals because God can't be stopped no matter what His faults.

There's very little to be gained by a man on the gallows with a noose already around his neck turning to the executioner and saying: Your breath stinks. Well; maybe it really does stink but the condemned man is still going to get his neck stretched regardless. He will have the satisfaction of getting in a parting shot but pointing out the executioner's faults won't stop him from doing his job.


TALLY UPDATE: 304 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 18,516,336 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #77 on: Tue Jul 16, 2019 - 22:36:38 »
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FAQ: If it's true that people in Hell are destined to be stuck there forever, then wouldn't it be accurate to say they have eternal life seeing as how they will never cease to exist?

A: Eternal life has practically nothing at all to do with longevity.

Eternal life has to do with God's basic nature, i.e. the very core of His divine being; whereas human life has to do with a human's basic nature, i.e. the very core of a created being.

People in Hell live and move and have their being with human nature; whereas people in Heaven live and move and have their being with divine nature. (2Pet 1:4)

If people in heaven really and truly do have divine nature rather than human nature, then just imagine how easy it is for them to please God not just some of the time, nor even most of the time; but all of the time.

The tree of life in the garden of Eden would've extended longevity indefinitely for as long as the people kept nourishing themselves with its fruit and using its leaves for remedies (Gen 3:22, Rev 22:2). So that goes to show that it isn't necessary for humans to have eternal life in order for them to exist a long, long time. There are other ways to keep human life going. I suspect that God has quite a few tricks up His sleeve about which we are thus far unaware.


TALLY UPDATE: 316 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 19,247,244 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #78 on: Mon Jul 22, 2019 - 11:41:50 »
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I'm sometimes very curious why seemingly normal foods are hazardous to so many people, i.e. salt, fat, sugar, gluten, peanuts, dairy, red meat; etc.

Ps 69:22 . . May their table before them become a snare;

I don't know if the above is supposed to be arbitrary, but it sure seems to be because health issues related to nourishment are everywhere regardless of race, gender, age, or religious preference.


TALLY UPDATE: 322 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 19,612,698 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #79 on: Sun Jul 28, 2019 - 20:07:32 »
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"A voice rings out; Proclaim! Another asks; What shall I proclaim? All flesh is grass, all its goodness like flowers of the field: Grass withers, flowers fade when the breath of the Lord blows on them. Indeed, man is but grass: Grass withers, flowers fade" (Isa 40:6-8)

Man is but perishable fruit like peaches, pears, strawberries, cantaloupe, avocado, and oranges; no amount of refrigeration will keep him fresh. Regardless of the amount of rest, fresh air, good diet, and exercise; man begins to wither right around the age of 32 or 34.

Youngster's can't really appreciate their expiration date as three brief decades: to them, 32 or 34 years seems long and way out in the distance. As a result, the withering process often sneaks up and takes them by surprise like starting a frog off in cool water and slowly bringing it up to a boil. Of a sudden, one day it swats them in the face like a rolled up newspaper that they're "old school" replaced by a young, hip generation wherein they've been accustomed to thinking all along was themselves.

The aging process, once it starts, is relentless. Its personality is sort of like that of the robot in Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie "The Terminator" which is a machine that can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop-- ever! -- until you are dead.

The aging process is a cold as steel wake-up call that your tenure on this planet is rapidly winding down to a close; and one day, it will be like you were never here.


TALLY UPDATE: 328 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 19,978,152 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #80 on: Mon Jul 29, 2019 - 03:48:58 »
TALLY UPDATE 328 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 19,978,152 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
NO ONE is yet in fiery sector of hades, for no such place exists. Hell in one sense is used as the GRAVE and yes, many millions have gone there within the past year, while others have gone right into the very presence of God.....for to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord Jesus. The wicked are in SILENCE and DARKNESS waiting for the judgment of the GREAT WHITE THRONE where they shall be sent into the LAKE OF FIRE to be destroyed/perish.

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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #81 on: Mon Aug 05, 2019 - 12:35:34 »
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Matt 28:18 . . Jesus came to them and said: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Acts 1:9 . . He was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

Dan 7:13-14 . . In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into His presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

Rev 5:11-12 . . I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they sang: Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!

Acts 1:10-11 . .They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. Men of Galilee-- they said --why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.

Rev 1:7 . . Look! he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him


TALLY UPDATE: 336 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 20,465,424 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #82 on: Tue Aug 20, 2019 - 15:22:59 »
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Years ago when I underwent recruit training in the US Army, we were processed in alphabetical order; consequently I was at the back of the line for just about everything except chow because my last name begins with W --very few guys' names began with X, Y, or Z.

If perchance the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 is scheduled to proceed in alphabetical order, it would quite possibly be centuries before my turn came to be called forward to face the music.

Let's say, for example, that the tally update below represents one hour in court per person. No doubt that's an extremely conservative amount of time allotted to evaluate every little detail in peoples' lives but we're just being hypothetical here so it doesn't matter.

Well; 21,379,059 hours is roughly 890,794 days of twenty-fours hours each; which adds up to 2,440 years if the great white throne event is scheduled to run non-stop, day and night, 24/7


TALLY UPDATE: 351 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 21,379,059 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #83 on: Fri Sep 13, 2019 - 19:43:05 »
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Internet forums are a cruel venue. Participants write their academic comments about hell as if we're all members of a Jane Austen book club casually discussing a chapter of Pride And Prejudice.

But the numbers that I post on this thread from time to time are not fiction; they represent real people whose lives have culminated in unspeakable tragedy. I'd much prefer eternity in a looney bin, soling my pants and drooling all over myself like a stroke victim, than be where those unfortunates are in residence now.

Luke 16:27-28 . .The rich man answered: "I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment."

The rich man knew something about hell that apparently many of us online seem unable to fully appreciate. The time to be thinking about the hereafter is while we're in this life, now, before it ends, rather than the next when it will be too late to do anything about it.


TALLY UPDATE: 375 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 22,840,875 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #84 on: Fri Dec 13, 2019 - 10:19:58 »
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Matt 5:21-22a . . You have heard that it was said to the people long ago: Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment.

I think it's safe to assume that the anger spoken of in that passage is a malicious kind of anger eating away at somebody who wants you dead. (cf. 1John 3:15)

Matt 5:22b . . . Again, anyone who says to his brother "Raca" is answerable to the Sanhedrin.

Raca refers to name-calling, especially in regard to intelligence, e.g. idiot, moron, dummy, lame brain, space cadet, Neanderthal, air head, dimwit, bird brain, knuckle dragger, doofus, jackass, ignoramus, etc.

Matt 5:22c . . But anyone who says "You fool" will be in danger of the fire of hell.

"You fool" in this case refers to a particular kind of mental cruelty that makes people-- especially growing children --feel bad about themselves, i.e. makes people feel like they don't count and/or don't matter, like they are something less than a real human being.

Demeaning comments in the "you fool" category erode someone's self respect to where they feel like they don't belong: they're unnecessary, unwelcome, and unworthy of being included, listened to, and/or taken seriously.

There's a certain amount of poetic justice in Matt 5:22c. People that make others' lives a living hell in this life via you-fool remarks, fully deserve their own lives to be a living hell in the next.

Matt 12:36-37 . . I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.


TALLY UPDATE: 466 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 28,383,594 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #85 on: Mon Jan 06, 2020 - 11:44:45 »
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Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.

Back in the mid 1960s-- when I was a young single guy around 24 years old living solo in a tiny rented room in a family home's daylight basement --I had lots of time to myself to think about things since I had no friends, nor any kind of social contact whatsoever other than at work. I wasn't distracted with a girl friend, nor by pals and beer buddies, nor by an obsessive hobby. It was just me, my 1961 Volkswagen, and a 305 Honda motorcycle that I rode all over northwest Oregon.

I thought about Hell a lot back in those days; and the very real possibility of my ending up there. It occurred to me at the time that it would be a whole lots easier to comply with God's wishes if only I were like Him instead of like me. Doing bad is easy for me because I'm bad without thinking about it whereas doing good is a fight against nature. If only I could do good as naturally as God does good; I'd have it made.

Another thought crossed my mind back in those days. Let's assume that I could somehow manage to be pious enough in this lifetime to qualify for Heaven. Then what? I was pretty sure I could never manage to be pious for all eternity: possibly in this life, but certainly never in the next; no, I could never keep it up forever. Sooner or later my true colors would show themselves.

I envied people like Moses because he had Heaven in the bag while I had no clue about my future; though I was fairly sure that for me, Hell was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

I didn't know it at the time, but I was very fortunate to be thinking those kinds of thoughts because right around then I ran across a solution to my problem in the Old Testament that says:

"I will take you from among the nations and gather you from all the countries, and I will bring you to your land. And I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you will be clean; from all your impurities and from all your abominations will I cleanse you.

. . . And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit will I put within you, and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My spirit within you and bring it about that you will walk in My statutes and you will keep My ordinances and do them." (Ezek 36:24-27)

Those promises were made to the Jews so of course I, being a Gentile, couldn't expect God to let me in on them. But just think of the tremendous advantages that passage speaks of. Whereas I am normally and naturally impious, with those promises in hand I could become just the opposite, viz: I could become normally and naturally pious. Ezek 36:24-27 really perked me up and lifted my spirits because it gave me a light at the end of the tunnel whereas before then, I had none.

Eph 2:11-22 tells how that God has a way for Gentiles to share in the Jews' benefits. The light at the end of the tunnel spoken of above is available to everyone on Earth regardless of age, race, color, or gender; which the apostle Peter sums up by saying:

"Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. His divine power has given us everything we need for life and piety through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness. Through these He has given us His very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature." (2Pet 1:2-4)


TALLY UPDATE: 490 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 29,845,410 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #86 on: Sat Jan 18, 2020 - 18:49:35 »
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Eccl 12:7 . .Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The second half of that passage is what interests me the most because Adam's body was made of the dust of the earth, but his soul wasn't made like that. According to Gen 2:7, the breath of life made Adam's soul.

So; I think it's fairly safe to assume that where Ecc 12:7 says that the spirit shall return to God, it's talking about God laying claim to a dead person's soul; and that is a very, very unnerving proposition.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Heb 10:31)

According to Matt 10:28, assassins can take the life of a man's body, but they are powerless to take the life of a man's soul; which means that a man's death doesn't terminate his existence; there's still God to reckon with.

Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

The Greek word for "hell" in that verse isn't hades, it's geena (gheh' en-nah) i.e. the sum of all fears. So then, the rich man incarcerated in hades as per Luke 16:19-31 still has his soul and won't lose it till he's transferred to geena during the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 where people will undergo a gruesome termination akin to a foundry worker falling into a kettle of molten iron.

Matt 16:26 . .What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

There are far too many people on internet forums casually discussing the sum of all fears as if they're in a Jane Austen book club discussing a chapter of Pride And Prejudice. Well; let me say to those grasshoppers: the hades described in Luke 16:19-31 is bad enough, but the geena of Isa 66:23-24, Matt 10:28, and Mark 9:43-48 is much worse because it's in there where people lose their human souls and quite possibly given a demonic soul in exchange.

I'm not claiming the part I said about a demonic soul is true; I'm only suggesting it's a distinct possibility because the lake of fire wasn't initially constructed for humans, rather it was initially constructed for the Devil and his angels. (Matt 25:41)


TALLY UPDATE: 502 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 30,576,318 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #87 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 20:26:18 »
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FAQ: Seeing as how Satan is harvesting more souls than Christ, then he'll get the last laugh won't he? Like "LOL, I got more than You!"

A: Satan is a narcissistic alpha male. His personality feels very strongly that it's not good enough to win; everyone else must lose, viz: people like him will not settle for a market share, no, they will settle for nothing less than the whole market. In their thinking, anything less than 100% market share makes them feel inadequate and less than a success. Were you to ask them what number would satisfy them; they'd likely answer: More.

In Satan's mind "more than you" isn't enough to cheer him up for an LOL. Anything less than all is nothing to brag about because in his mind, there are no second place winners. Ergo, any souls taken by Christ, no matter how few in number, are painful for Satan because that massive ego of his can't, and won't, tolerate the reduction of even one soul in his inventory. In a mind like Satan's, Christ is a thief taking things for himself that rightfully don't belong to him.

According to Rev 12:12, the Devil's final hours characterize him in a very disagreeable mood.


BTW: There was a time when Satan had the entire human race in his bag. Little by little, goody-two-shoes Jesus has been whittling that number down; and the losses must really gall ol' Smutty Face.

You know; it's not easy to be a devil. The poor creature is stuck with a personality that allows him very little peace of mind, if any.


TALLY UPDATE: 507 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 30,880,863 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #88 on: Sat Jan 25, 2020 - 04:13:47 »
TALLY UPDATE 507 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 30,880,863 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
Sir, while I can appreciate some things that you say, on this subject you are encouraging children of the wicked one like Arron Rogers by giving them some very good reasons why they think they are right in mocking certain true biblical doctrines while rejecting others that even the wicked can reason within themselves and see just how inconsistence a certain doctrine is!

So, you believe that all of the wicked when they die go straight to a firey burning hell? Dear sir, no such doctrine can be supported by the holy scriptures. The wicked go INTO DARKNESS AND SILENCE there waiting for the JUDGEMENT DAY to be judged and THEN sentence to the LAKE OF FIRE which is the SECOND DEATH a eternal perishing/destruction! FOREVER~without any possibility of being delivered!

The PLACE of the lake of fire will be THIS EARTH as we know it per the word of God.
Quote from: The apostle Peter
2nd Peter 3:10-12~"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"
THIS IS HELL FIRE, not some so-called purgatory made up by Catholicism. There is NO SUCH doctrine taught in the word of God where God will cause people to suffer world WITHOUT END in a burning hell~that's goes against all that God is, not to mention that it is NOT in the word of God but in man's religion created by his own mind.

May God save you from believing in this lie from Satan. 

I had a sister that died yesterday, and as far as I know, she died without Christ, so she is at the moment in darkness and silence with NO conscience of this world, much like those who are arrested and put into jail THERE WAITING to go before the Judge TO BE SENTENCE and THEN punish. It is insane to believe that the wicked are now IN A BURNING HELL and then will be taken OUT from there only to be judged and CAST AGAIN back into hell fire FOREVER, world without end! False doctrine breeds Atheism, what else can it breed?
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #89 on: Thu Mar 05, 2020 - 11:25:42 »
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Were I to be asked my opinion what might be an attitude that is just about guaranteed to put  people on the road to hell, my answer would have to be indifference.

Heb 5:8-11 . .Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; and being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him-- called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek; of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

"dull of hearing" refers to a lack of interest, viz: indifference; for example:

Zech 7:11-12 . . But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which The Lord of hosts hath sent in His spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from The Lord of hosts.

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Matt 13:13-15 . .Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which says: "You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.

. . . For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."

And again:

John 3:19-21 . .This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.


TALLY UPDATE: 549 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 33,439,041 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #90 on: Tue Mar 10, 2020 - 22:16:45 »
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Gen 6:3 . . And the Lord said: My Spirit shall not strive with man forever for they are only mortal flesh.

A problem with flesh is it's brevity. The human body eventually loses its vigor, so God has a limited amount of time to work with people before they pass on. Were humans immortal, He would have plenty of time to turn people around; but alas, without access to the tree of life, such is not the case; which is why I sometimes advise certain folk to use what time they have remaining to begin preparing themselves for the worst when they pass on.


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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #91 on: Wed Mar 11, 2020 - 03:46:33 »


TALLY UPDATE: 554 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 33,743,586 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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NO SUCH PLACE, unless hell is used in one of its biblcal sense to be the GRAVE, then you may be close. Dear sir, you know that hell in the word of God is used in different senses than the most common sense known by even the world who believes the same lie that you are taeching~most likely in ignorance, nevertheless against the testimony of God's word.
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Proverbs 23:14~Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
What is the salvation from hell in this proverb? This cannot literally mean the lake of fire, or eternal life would depend on child discipline, not the grace of God. But hell is also used metaphorically for trouble, destruction, and death (Psalms 16:10; 18:5; 86:13; 116:3; Isaiah 5:14; 28:15; Jonah 2:2). Here is a dysfunctional and troubled life leading to premature death, either by accident, crime, revenge, or capital punishment. A salvation indeed!

There are many more that just might cause you to re-think your doctrine on a PRESENT HELL FIRE that the word of God does not teach! There IS a hellfire called the LAKE OF FIRE which is the second death where the wicked SHALL PERISH~but, there is NO PRESENT hell burning with fire where the wicked lost go until the resurrection~it does not MAKE SENSE to put a person in hellfire NOW ONLY to bring them out to JUDGE THEM and cast them into the lake of fire where they shall PERISH, per John 3:16, etc.~but according to your doctrine CONTINUE ON FOREVER~again, against the teaching of God's word.



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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #92 on: Thu Mar 19, 2020 - 22:58:42 »
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"It is the irrevocable character of their choice, and not a defect in the infinite divine mercy, that makes the angels' sin unforgivable. There is no repentance for the angels after their fall, just as there is no repentance for men after death." (CCC 393)

That quote is taken from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Well; I don't really know just how true it is, but Jesus said something that suggests very strongly to me that Rome is spot-on.

John 8:21-24 . . Once more Jesus said to them, "I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come."

. . .This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, 'Where I go, you cannot come'?"

. . . But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.


TALLY UPDATE: 563 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 34,291,767 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #93 on: Sat Mar 28, 2020 - 19:39:18 »
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FAQ: Are there any non religious ways to heaven?

A: Surgery.

Matt 19:12 . . For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.

Matt 5:29 . . If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

Matt 5:30 . . And if your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into hell.


TALLY UPDATE: 572 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 34,839,948 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #94 on: Sat Apr 04, 2020 - 21:51:42 »
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Most of the boys I grew up with wanted to experience sleeping with a girl at least once in their lives. Well; the Viet Nam war foreshortened the lives of a pretty large number of boys in their teens, and also young men in their early twenties, who never got their longings satisfied. On top of that, some of them not only missed out on sleeping with a girl, but they went straight to the fiery sector of hades from the battlefield.

I can only imagine how grief-stricken those guys must be. They not only missed out on this life, but the next too. Hell for them is a double whammy of despair; defined by Webster's as utter loss of hope. i.e. to expect neither relief nor improvement in one's circumstances.

Eccl 3:1 . . To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.

Well; there's a time for love-- in hades there's no going back to make up for lost time.


TALLY UPDATE: 579 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 35,266,311 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #95 on: Thu Apr 09, 2020 - 11:11:16 »
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According to Luke 16:22, angels provided Lazarus' transportation to Abraham's afterlife location. The Bible doesn't say who, or what, provided the rich man's transportation to the other afterlife location.

One of the most disturbing scenes I've yet to observe in a Hollywood movie occurs in "GHOST" starring Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore. When someone marked for the other place passes away, these eerie phantoms emerge, uttering awful moans, and drag their panic-stricken prey down into the ground. I don't know if any of that is true or not; but it seems plausible.

But can you picture in your mind's eye just how startling and terrifying it would be to die and of a sudden be able to see the spirit creatures all around us stalking people day and night 24/7 without our knowing, patiently waiting the moment when they can haul us off?


TALLY UPDATE: 584 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 35,570,856 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #96 on: Sun Apr 12, 2020 - 16:49:20 »
Psa 146:1  Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. 2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Ecc 9:5  For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. 7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works. 8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment. 9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun. 10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.


Joh 3:14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #97 on: Tue Apr 14, 2020 - 11:29:46 »
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Rev 20:15 . . Whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The numbers that I post from time to time only tally the people on a road to that lake. In less than two years they've added up to approximately 35.9 million. Were we to add up everyone headed for the lake beginning as far back as Cain and Abel, it would amount to considerably more.

Christ has been designated by God to conduct the proceedings depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Well; I used to wonder how he would ever get around to each one of those people, until someone reminded me that time is not a concern.

John 5:26 . . As the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.

Well; the life that's in the Father is eternal life; which is a kind of life that always was, it always is, and it always shall be. So Christ has enough time at his disposal to take cases at his leisure, i.e. whenever he feels like it and/or gets around to it.


TALLY UPDATE: 589 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 35,875,401 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #98 on: Fri Apr 17, 2020 - 21:13:19 »
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Rom 2:12 . . All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.

Usually when the apostle Paul (a trained Pharisee) writes about "the law" he's referring to the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Not everyone on Earth is familiar with that particular code, nor required to comply with it. So those folk will be judged on the basis of their culture and their conscience, i.e. how well they complied with the law of the land and with their own personal opinions about right and wrong; plus the standards they set for others but not for themselves. (Rom 2:14-16)


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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #99 on: Sat Apr 18, 2020 - 04:20:41 »
If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 36,058,128 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
Well, let me help you~ZERO has checked in~the simple reason is "NO SUCH" place exist, only in the minds of folks who have been deceived by Catholicism~concerning their lying doctrine of purgatory that they invented to gain access to folk's $$$$$$$..... after all, it cost a lot of money to operate the 121 acres called Vatican City~folks of that city have never had a real job in their life but depend on themselves having the power of SEDUCING gullible souls... mostly women and weak-minded men in order for them to live in such luxury~ while they fantasize about having sex with little boys.

Sir, your fiery sector of hades is much more empty than every Major League sports arena in America at this present time of the Coronavirus. 
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Re: Hell's Daily Tally
« Reply #100 on: Fri May 01, 2020 - 20:40:25 »
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FAQ: If the consequence for rejecting Christ is eternal punishment in hell, then why does scripture say: And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matt 10:28)

If the soul is also destroyed, then shouldn't that mean complete annihilation of all conscious existence? If so; then how can the lost's suffering in hell be eternal?


A: Adam was warned that he would die the very day he tasted the forbidden fruit. However, Adam continued to live for several centuries afterwards; which tells me that the death of souls spoken of in Matt 10:28 may not be all that quick, rather, they may have to endure a lingering death. In other words: the lost should probably expect to soak in brimstone an unspecified number of years before they finally, and completely, pass away: if ever.

TALLY UPDATE: 606 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 36,910,854 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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« Reply #101 on: Sat May 02, 2020 - 05:23:37 »
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FAQ: If the consequence for rejecting Christ is eternal punishment in hell, then why does scripture say: And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matt 10:28)

If the soul is also destroyed, then shouldn't that mean complete annihilation of all conscious existence? If so; then how can the lost's suffering in hell be eternal?


A: Adam was warned that he would die the very day he tasted the forbidden fruit. However, Adam continued to live for several centuries afterwards; which tells me that the death of souls spoken of in Matt 10:28 may not be all that quick, rather, they may have to endure a lingering death. In other words: the lost should probably expect to soak in brimstone an unspecified number of years before they finally, and completely, pass away: if ever.

TALLY UPDATE: 606 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 36,910,854 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
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Sir, again your reasoning is from your own heart, (and that's a dangerous place to reason from for ALL of us)  not from the word of God. You very well may be sincere and mean well, God will be your judge in that day, not man~so it is very important to labor to know the truth so that we shall not be ashamed before him in that day. We all want to hear him say~'WELL DONE thou good and faithful servant"........ do we not?

That being said~ you asked this question:
Quote from: NyawehNyoh Reply #100 on: Yesterday at 20:40:25
If the soul is also destroyed, then shouldn't that mean complete annihilation of all conscious existence?
It does indeed! Let me see if I can help you to see this very clearly, which truly is my desire, NOT to put another man down just to be putting him dowm~God forbid.

NyawehNyoh, do you believe that Jesus paid IN FULL our sin debt? Of COURSE, he did, he suffered DEATH~"NOT" eternal suffering in the hell of fire! If I believe like so many others believe concerning ETRANAL SUFFERING in hell fire, then why did not Jesus suffering the SAME if INDEED he paid IN FULL our condemnation of God's broken law? I MUST have an answer if someone asked me this question, should I not? WHY would the justice of God (which is based on pure RIGHTEOUSNESS) acquire sinners to suffering MORE than what Christ did when he died on the cross and was buried in the grave (tomb).  If Jesus had not been sinless then he would have PERISH in the grave with NO HOPE of living eternally in the true PARADISE OF GOD~the world to come.   You said:
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Adam was warned that he would die the very day he tasted the forbidden fruit. However, Adam continued to live for several centuries afterwards; which tells me that the death of souls spoken of in Matt 10:28 may not be all that quick, rather, they may have to endure a lingering death. In other words: the lost should probably expect to soak in brimstone an unspecified number of years before they finally, and completely, pass away: if ever.
The very second Adam sinned he DIED SPIRITUAL and UNLESS a person is born of God they will die the SECOND DEATH which is death by PERISHING in the lake of fire, which will be THIS EARTH when it is DESTROYED by fervent heat in that day with all of the wicked who were not IN CHRIST when he died and in full paid for their sins by his own RIGHTEOUSNESS which God, The Righteous JUDGE OF ALLL declared as satisfying his Holy Justice, by raising him from the dead and us by being  IN him.
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TALLY UPDATE: 606 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 36,910,854 arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 03, 2018.
Sorry, to inform you but that has not as of yet taken place~ as described to us from Peter's writings in 2nd Peter three! There is no such place as hellfire where the wicked are suffering! At the moment they are in DARKNESS and total silence unto the resurrection day when and where they shall be judged and THEN cast into the LAKE OF FIRE which will be THIS WORLD when it is destroyed by the FIRE OF GOD in that day and THERE PERISH per John 3:16; etc.

Prove me wrong if you think you can, just be prepared to do so. I have the word of God on my side supporting my understanding~that's all I need. I have NO powerful denominations etc. etc.

This I know: there are many more with me (and ALL others who have truth) than with all sects combined.
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2nd King 6:15-17~And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, "Alas, my master! how shall we do? And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them. And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha."
Praise be to our God! Believest thou this?
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« Reply #102 on: Sun May 03, 2020 - 04:10:43 »
Greetings NyawehNyoh~I'm waiting for the first-ever response back from you.   Even within this thread, I have posted a few times to you, but so far you act as though no one is saying anything to what you are saying. RB

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« Reply #103 on: Sun May 03, 2020 - 16:26:09 »
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I'm waiting for the first-ever response back from you.

I welcome your comments as I sincerely believe that visitors are entitled to a second opinion in matters related to life after death.
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« Reply #104 on: Tue May 05, 2020 - 05:56:27 »
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I welcome your comments as I sincerely believe that visitors are entitled to a second opinion in matters related to life after death.
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Well, not exactly what I would desire, nevertheless, thank you.  One more thought: the world is full of man's opinions, what they need is TRUTH~that alone sets men FREE where only peace and joy can truly be obtained that will last.
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