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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #560 on: Thu Jun 21, 2018 - 17:36:02 »
And just where did you dream up that crap?  I don't respond to your heresy-based nonsense and you quickly jump to your nonsensical conclusions.

You are a liar.  How can you say that you do not respond to my heresy-base nonsense.  You respond to me all the time.  It is here to the question of whether you ask the almighty for help that you say that you do not respond to "heresy based-nonsense".  Everyone that I consider a Christian has responded to this in the affirmative, and readily so.  It is you that shy away from this. 

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #561 on: Thu Jun 21, 2018 - 20:14:20 »
You are a liar.  How can you say that you do not respond to my heresy-base nonsense.  You respond to me all the time.  It is here to the question of whether you ask the almighty for help that you say that you do not respond to "heresy based-nonsense".  Everyone that I consider a Christian has responded to this in the affirmative, and readily so.  It is you that shy away from this.
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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #562 on: Thu Jun 21, 2018 - 20:16:44 »
The JWs and LDS are not like you.  I can testify to this.
But they are wrong like you.  The Bible testifies to that.

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #563 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 00:08:59 »
Made some additions to Reply #557 on: Yesterday at 16:12:31 on the previous page dealing with Genesis 3. 


 

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #564 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 03:21:58 »
Truthcomber open your eyes and ears. The season You was in has changed. Its not going to be the same anymore

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #565 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 03:53:32 »
Truth with these words is unsettles me a bit to be honest. But God talks and he will be heard.

I heard in the spirit , the Lord gives and the lord taketh away.

So i looked it up
Job 1:20-22 New King James Version (NKJV)

20 Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he fell to the ground and worshiped. 21 And he said:

“Naked I came from my mother’s womb,
And naked shall I return there.
The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away;
Blessed be the name of the Lord.”
22 In all this Job did not sin nor charge God with wrong.

A few days or a week ago I was thinking about you and Nebuchadnezzar came to mind. This is not my thoughts but the Lord

Nebuchadnezzar’s Humiliation
28 All this came upon King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 At the end of the twelve months he was walking about the royal palace of Babylon. 30 The king spoke, saying, “Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?”

31 While the word was still in the king’s mouth, a voice fell from heaven: “King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is spoken: the kingdom has departed from you! 32 And they shall drive you from men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. They shall make you eat grass like oxen; and seven [j]times shall pass over you, until you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.”

33 That very hour the word was fulfilled concerning Nebuchadnezzar; he was driven from men and ate grass like oxen; his body was wet with the dew of heaven till his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws.

Nebuchadnezzar Praises God
34 And at the end of the [k]time I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me; and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever:

For His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
And His kingdom is from generation to generation.
35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing;
He does according to His will in the army of heaven
And among the inhabitants of the earth.
No one can restrain His hand
Or say to Him, “What have You done?”
36 At the same time my reason returned to me, and for the glory of my kingdom, my honor and splendor returned to me. My counselors and nobles resorted to me, I was restored to my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added to me. 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, all of whose works are truth, and His ways justice. And those who walk in pride He is able to put down.


Look Truth there is hope and I pray whatever the Lord has for you that you will remain strong . THe Lord tells us these things before hand because he loves us and wants us to endure. I pray that you will have strength and i only speak these things to you in love so that you do endure . Maybe Jesus Christ will reveal himself to you in a way that you have never knowen him before. I bless you and pray that you will have strength. The Lord loves you Truth and I could not be silient , at least this way you know that he will be with you through it no matter how hard it will be.

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #566 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 04:41:18 »
I never once equated myself with prosperity gospel preachers.  Why did you make this up?
Sir, I never said that you did, yet the holy scriptures speaks of you "and" them and other as:
Quote from: Paul
2nd Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
In Mystery Babylon the beast has under his guidance and at his disposal many evil spirits being used against God, Jesus Christ, the saints and all truths that are in the word of God. THESE different evils spirits are learning, yet are NOT ABLE to come unto the knowledge of THE TRUTH as it is IN Jesus Christ....... you are among them~now, do you understand the sense in which I said what I said?

You need to either read what I have written more carefully or be more forthright in saying what I have said, so since I really do not know your reason of saying "Why did you make this up?" I'll let it be with this post and believe the best, that you just got a little shaken up with the truth exposing you for who you are....a false prophet denying the Divinity of Jesus Christ, the mighty God, the everlasting Father of all things, the Prince of peace. 
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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #567 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 05:38:19 »
I can say this about LDS and JW.  They have much better character than you and 4WD have.  They are not nasty like you two bozos are. 
You Truthcomber, I have learned many years ago that when people begin to speak like you are doing, it only proves that the debate is going againt them and NOT for them, so in desperation, this is all the ammunition they have left~just like their father the Pharisees' of old.

Would you call Jesus Christ a "nasty bozo" because of his hard words against the Scribes, Pharisees, and the Sadducees? Matthew 23; John 8; etc. I may come back later (in the morning) and finished answering your confused doctrines....maybe.

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #568 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 16:31:36 »
One of my favorite books in the Bible is 2 Peter. I often find myself turning to this book. It could be because one is able to read the Epistle in one
sitting, but also because it is filled with the most wonderful blessings, and visions of a glorious future for Christians,  I realize that I will never convince
those who do not believe Jesus is God that He is INDEED GOD, so I am posting this for the benefit of those who KNOW who Jesus is, and can clearly
see the remarkable work of the Holy Spirit in picking each word carefully which HE uses.  There are many places in the New Testament where the
Trinity is shown----and this is another example.   This passage below is wondrous in nature and we should read it carefully:

"For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For when he received honor and glory from GOD THE FATHER, and the voice was borne to him by the Majestic Glory, “This is my beloved SON, with whom I am well pleased,” we ourselves heard this very voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by THE HOLY SPIRIT. (2 Peter 1:16-21)

Please note what Peter says above. We need to read carefully.  Peter doesn't say that GOD said to Jesus "This is my beloved SON"   We must note that the Holy Spirit says through Peter "GOD THE FATHER". Why does the Holy Spirit emphasize this to us? Because GOD THE SON is the one being addressed.  God is not just God to Jesus Christ----God is GOD THE FATHER to Jesus Christ---because Jesus is GOD THE SON.

Please note in the above verses the blessed TRINITY also---I have emboldened GOD THE FATHERTHE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT as the Holy Spirit Himself is pointing out to us the work of the TRINITY in our salvation.   This is so blessed that it makes me want to jump for joy!  Yes----Jesus is God----no matter what the heretics say-----and it is a most blessed fact.

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Re: How can Jesus Christ be God?
« Reply #569 on: Fri Jun 22, 2018 - 21:58:41 »
You will notice that as men like Peter left THEIR PART of the PERFECT, only the Father and Son appear in the salutations to the Epistles.

From Eve, Inanna, Istar etal the MOTHER GODDESS was worshipped.  Based on Revelation 17-18 the Babylon MOTHER is worshipped by "lusted after fruits" (same as in Amos 8). They function as any religious CRAFTSMAN: speaker, singer, instrument player or anyone WORKING to ASSIST God.  John calls them SORCERERS using a word which identified the ORIGINAL Babylonian Mother Goddess.
The DOVE was the symbol of Semiramis.



The Spirit descended like a Dove or the Rock Pigeon or Carrier Pigeon. The Spirit or breath CARRIES the voice of God.
When the fluttering sound (from the ancient Flutterer) the result was a SOUND: Spirit or Breath always results in Words.
God wants us to know that Jesus is the SON of a FATHER and not a MOTHER GODDESS.

2Pet. 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ,
         to them that have obtained like precious faith with us
         through the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God
         AND
         our SAVIOUR Jesus Christ:

        Rom. 5:10 For if, when we were enemies,
                we were reconciled
                to GOD
                by the death of HIS SON. [Our Lord-God doesn't die]
                        much more, being reconciled,
                        we shall be SAVED by his LIFE.

2Pet. 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you
        through the knowledge of God, [Theos]
        AND
        of Jesus our Lord, [Kurios]
2Pet. 1:3 According as his divine power
        hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
        through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pet. 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
        that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
        having escaped the corruption that is in the WORLD through lust.

Jesus doesn't pray for the World, Kosmos the Ecumenical or the kingdom of the Devil in warfare against the kingdom of Jesus.

Because the "once for all delivered to the saints" need not and will not be delivered again Peter and others LEFT US THEIR RECORD.

2Pet. 1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent
        to put you ALWAYS in remembrance of these things,
        though ye know them,
        and be established in the PRESENT TRUTH
2Pet. 1:13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle,
        to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;
2Pet. 1:14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle,
        even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
2Pet. 1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease
        to have these things always in remembrance.
2Pet. 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, [sermons, songs, instrumental sounds]
        when we made known unto you
        the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
        but were EYEWITNESSES of his majesty.
2Pet. 1:17 For HE [Jesus the Lord or Kurios]
                        received  from
                        GOD [Theos] the Father honour and glory,
                        when there came such a voice to him FROM the excellent glory,
                        This is my beloved SON, in whom I am well pleased.
2Pet. 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven WE HEARD heard,
                         when we were with him in the holy mount.

If the FATHER is God then the one being owned is the SON OF GOD and not GOD THE SON.

The MAN Jesus was not either LORD or CHRIST until God MADE HIM TO BE.

1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD,
        and one mediator BETWEEN God and men,
        the MAN Christ Jesus;

JESUS IS OUR ONLY MEDIATOR, INTERCESSOR, COMFORTER who is HIGH PRIEST and the very reading of the text should prove that The Son of God is not God in any sense. Jesus BECAME the first begotten FROM THE DEAD.