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How many times does a person have to repent?
« on: Sat Dec 17, 2011 - 17:49:18 »
I repented from my sins when I turned 32 years old. I am under the impression that it's the first time that we do it, that it actually changes our lives and we get our new skins from Jesus.

From then on, I made sure that I didn't sin against other people by hurting them either directly or indirectly. However I did still make mistakes but they didn't have the hold on me the way they used to, I correct it but I don't feel the need to repent since they aren't sins against other people and Jesus already cleared me of sin once and for all.

Or do people need to continually repent even if they don't sin against another person yet they correct their mistakes?

When we are saved, are we even able to sin against others, i.e. condemning others after Jesus already saved them and us?







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« Reply #1 on: Sat Dec 17, 2011 - 18:45:16 »
I first repented of my sins - my wrong way of living, when I first truly turned to the lord, wanting Him to be part of my life. I still occasionally think or desire what I know to be wrong, and on these occasions I apoligise to God and get back on track. This truly wanting God in my life did change me because I rarely think of worldly things as I used to.

Although saved by Grace through Faith, we still sin and need to repent - turn back around, when we do.
1Jn 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

So we ocassionally sin, then we confess and let go of that sin, and are in a right relationship with God again, I believe.

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Re: How many times does a person have to repent?
« Reply #2 on: Sat Dec 17, 2011 - 18:53:04 »
yes we do need to keep on repenting because we keep on sinning. We all sin, even if it is small things, we all fall far below perfection. 
If we are married for example, and we treat our spouses badly, dont we say sorry to them after wards? Its not just what we do directly to God that is sin, but what we do to others as well.

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Re: How many times does a person have to repent?
« Reply #3 on: Sat Dec 17, 2011 - 19:04:39 »
I first repented of my sins - my wrong way of living, when I first truly turned to the lord, wanting Him to be part of my life. I still occasionally think or desire what I know to be wrong, and on these occasions I apoligise to God and get back on track. This truly wanting God in my life did change me because I rarely think of worldly things as I used to.

Does it seem to have the same hold on you as it did the first time you repented? It's a lot easier for me now when I do make a mistake, I don't feel the burden of it, just like Jesus promised his yoke is easy and the burden is light.

When you feel like you are thinking something wrong, is that a sin against yourself? I know those can be personal but I can't think of something that would cause me to sin against myself that I haven't already wiped out of my life. I suppose that's a good thing because if I do come across something that is a sin against myself, not knowingly aware of it, then it's easier to be forgiven, because we aren't sinning on purpose. I think because it's no longer intentional it makes the burden light, like a child spilling milk, no sense in making a fuss over it. Just clean up the mess!

I don't have any worldly interest, except the world wide web. Heck I even prefer to do my shopping here so I can avoid the world even more! lol! Makes me wonder if this is the second world talked about in the bible, that just popped in my head.

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Re: How many times does a person have to repent?
« Reply #4 on: Sat Dec 17, 2011 - 21:25:40 »
Since this is a question for someone trying to learn...

Lets start at the top with the types of sins.

Sins of Ignorance.
     Sins that you commit that you don't know are sins.

Sins of Negligence.
     Sins that you commit by not acting when you are supposed to act.

Planned Sins
     Sins that you have planned out to do and then done.

Sins of Self-righteousness/condemnation of others/unforgiveness of others.
   The worst sin. It is pride on steroids.


And that is just sins...that doesn't even cover transgressions.

Transgressions are ongoing sins that you cannot get yourself free of.  IE: a woman who met a man and they lived together so long that they had several children but are never legally married. She one day becomes a believer but has no financial means to move out or get her boyfriend to actually commit in marriage to her.

And where some people actually like to act in the manner that some of the planned sins and or transgressions are the worst sins...the pointing of them out is part and parcel with the Accuser of the Bretheren...IE SATAN...so it is always best not to point a finger at anyone.


Repent literally means to turn around...to change direction. Jesus had several women who followed him who were once prostitutes...they left their careers and followed Jesus and took care of his and the other apostles needs. They decided; live or die they would rather have Jesus and subscribe to his ideals than their former lifestyles. And as a result many of them did literally die...but still received eternal life.


Most everyone knows the song "Amazing Grace". What most people don't know is that the man who wrote that song was once a slaver. Meaning that he went to africa, took, and/or bought slaves and then brought them to one of the Americas for sale.

The day that he repented of his sins he carefully noted...but continued to run his slaving business for another two years.


And when Jesus says that we are to forgive someone who repents 70 times 7 that means always forgive someone who repents. Those that do not repent....well...we are supposed to show them grace for their inability to see their own shortcomings.
And that sometimes gets to be a real difficult task.   

 


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Re: How many times does a person have to repent?
« Reply #5 on: Sun Dec 18, 2011 - 06:14:02 »
Thanks for all the definitions John!

I just realized that it wasn't 77x's that Jesus told us to forgive but 70x7 which is 490 times! Which goes to show the patience we need to display with other people and how patient God is with us. Might as well forget about being able to stop forgiving people!  rofl
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« Reply #6 on: Sun Dec 18, 2011 - 11:29:06 »
Yes, we are able to sin after being saved.

Even after we are saved and we sin, we should repent.



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« Reply #7 on: Sun Dec 18, 2011 - 19:02:36 »
This is the deal.

Salvation is about living a life like God - not because you have to, but because you actually buy into it as THE way to live.


Given that, when we don't live in that way, we want to return to the path we have chosen.

That's called repentance.


There isn't going to be a checklist with parallel columns of "sins" and "repented" that have to match.

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Re: How many times does a person have to repent?
« Reply #8 on: Sun Dec 18, 2011 - 19:38:03 »
God sees our hearts.  Yes, when we sin we will feel like repenting for it especially if we know it is a sin.  We want to be in right standing with God because we know that's the only way to live.  We are either living with God or without Him.  We've already lived without Him and that was terrible.  For me, when I sin I have to repent as the urge is irresistable.  It's like hurting the God that died to save you.  How can we be so callous?  I guess that's just me.  Anyway...
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Re: How many times does a person have to repent?
« Reply #9 on: Mon Dec 19, 2011 - 03:57:09 »
But isn't the burden of it much lighter for anyone to not feel the guilt they did when they initially repented?

That's how Jesus has made it for me, so much easier to deal with. And it's gone the moment I take notice of it.

Acknowledging it as a sin is repentance in itself and then I am free from it and it doesn't come back.

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« Reply #10 on: Mon Dec 19, 2011 - 10:17:32 »
Yes, we are able to sin after being saved.

Even after we are saved and we sin, we should repent.



This is the deal.

Salvation is about living a life like God - not because you have to, but because you actually buy into it as THE way to live.


Given that, when we don't live in that way, we want to return to the path we have chosen.

That's called repentance.


There isn't going to be a checklist with parallel columns of "sins" and "repented" that have to match.
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« Reply #11 on: Wed Dec 21, 2011 - 16:34:38 »
Here's a thought for consideration:  Repentance is God's gift to us in that it is an opportunity to experience God lavishing His love, mercy and grace upon us.

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« Reply #12 on: Wed Dec 21, 2011 - 17:06:20 »
Here's a thought for consideration:  Repentance is God's gift to us in that it is an opportunity to experience God lavishing His love, mercy and grace upon us.
Steve not sure what you are saying but sounds like you just told me that God repents for me.

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« Reply #13 on: Wed Dec 21, 2011 - 17:46:05 »

Or do people need to continually repent even if they don't sin against another person yet they correct their mistakes?

We're all sinners.  ::nodding::  Hence, repentance is a continual process for anyone who desires to please God.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu Dec 22, 2011 - 03:14:43 »
Here's a thought for consideration:  Repentance is God's gift to us in that it is an opportunity to experience God lavishing His love, mercy and grace upon us.
Steve not sure what you are saying but sounds like you just told me that God repents for me.

It doesn't sound like he said that to me. From what I hear in his words, he is saying that repentance is a gift from God given to us. It's probably one of the greatest things he can give us because it gives us the opportunity to change. This is where his love for us begins.

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« Reply #15 on: Thu Dec 22, 2011 - 06:35:15 »
How about this:

Since there are some sins that we are blind about (meaning we don't recognize them as sins) and God forgives us of those by an act of un-merited favor we call Grace. We should extend the same grace towards others.   

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« Reply #16 on: Thu Dec 22, 2011 - 07:26:57 »
I think those are really wise words John.

I know I'm about to sound like an ignorant fool but how do we have grace? Maybe I'm just not sure what it means. I've looked it up but I don't seem to understand the definition. Can you give an example of in your life how you have grace?

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Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.  Matt 5.4

Mourn here means to mourn our sins. 

2 Cor 7.10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu Dec 22, 2011 - 07:38:33 »
Here's a thought for consideration:  Repentance is God's gift to us in that it is an opportunity to experience God lavishing His love, mercy and grace upon us.
Steve not sure what you are saying but sounds like you just told me that God repents for me.

Yogi -

God doesn't repent for us.  But He has given us this gift, the gift of repentance, to experience Him lavishing His love upon us. I could do a long post on this, but just consider what it was like when you first turned to Christ and cried out to Him for forgiveness.  I wish for you and all of us the opportunity to experience God's love, mercy and grace afresh when we repent.  This is a time when God pours out His love upon us.

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« Reply #19 on: Thu Dec 22, 2011 - 07:56:05 »
It took me like a year to get over my initial repenting. I remember being so emotional, extreme highs and lows, but God was always there and reminded me that he was with constant serendipitous moments.

The mourning is a death to our sins. But it's so much easier now, it's just a matter of wanting to stop it and it stops. I suppose it take discipline to do this but I went through so much in the beginning that anything else is cake now.

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« Reply #20 on: Thu Dec 22, 2011 - 08:52:07 »
It just dawned on me, the first time I repented, I didn't even know I was repenting. I was really hard on myself. Now I know those serendipitous moments were from God but I really thought it was also my conscious haunting me at the time. I had no idea what was going on, I just knew I had to change how I was living my life.

Is that normal?

This all happened to me before I read the bible and even believed in God.  ::headscratch::
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« Reply #21 on: Fri Dec 23, 2011 - 20:27:56 »
I think those are really wise words John.

I know I'm about to sound like an ignorant fool but how do we have grace? Maybe I'm just not sure what it means. I've looked it up but I don't seem to understand the definition. Can you give an example of in your life how you have grace?

Grace is a favor that someone does for you that you don't deserve in any shape form or fashion.

let me see if I can make an example.

Someone you don't know gets a traffic ticket. (happens every day right?)
But because they happen to cross your path you go out of your way to pay that traffic ticket for them.

Or

A guy is driving along in a foreign country and has a traffic accident. He inadvertently kills a child in the process. The court system in that country wants to execute him for his traffic accident.  A life for a life.
BUT
You offer one of your own children to satisfy that court's need for a life-for-a-life policy they have. They agree to take the life of your child instead of this guy. (this guy is not related to you or really known to you)

The favor and exceptional kindness you show this guy who carelessly and recklessly killed a child is shown favor by you by your offering one of your precious children to die in his place.
This is called grace. ...favor not earned or deserved that you show this person.



 

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« Reply #22 on: Fri Dec 23, 2011 - 20:37:36 »
I think those are really wise words John.

I know I'm about to sound like an ignorant fool but how do we have grace? Maybe I'm just not sure what it means. I've looked it up but I don't seem to understand the definition. Can you give an example of in your life how you have grace?

Grace is a favor that someone does for you that you don't deserve in any shape form or fashion.

let me see if I can make an example.

Someone you don't know gets a traffic ticket. (happens every day right?)
But because they happen to cross your path you go out of your way to pay that traffic ticket for them.

Or

A guy is driving along in a foreign country and has a traffic accident. He inadvertently kills a child in the process. The court system in that country wants to execute him for his traffic accident.  A life for a life.
BUT
You offer one of your own children to satisfy that court's need for a life-for-a-life policy they have. They agree to take the life of your child instead of this guy. (this guy is not related to you or really known to you)

The favor and exceptional kindness you show this guy who carelessly and recklessly killed a child is shown favor by you by your offering one of your precious children to die in his place.
This is called grace. ...favor not earned or deserved that you show this person.  

Amen!  ::smile:: ::smile:: ::smile::

 

     
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