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HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 19:38:12 »
 So  how was  SAUL / PAUL  SAVED ?

 Was it  by God's  Grace ?

 Was  it by  WORKS ?

 Was he saved by  FAITH , ONLY ?

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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #1 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 20:12:31 »
Why was Paul baptized? Baptism is not against grace through faith. Baptism is pure passive surrender to what God does in baptism.
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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #2 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 22:25:33 »
dan p:

Do you believe Saul/Paul was saved the way heaven's testimony describes it? Do you know where the experience is found?

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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #3 on: Fri Jun 10, 2022 - 13:43:46 »
  Hi  Buff  , and never have heard that , so explain it to  me !!

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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #4 on: Fri Jun 10, 2022 - 22:17:03 »

Irrelevancy again. Bye.

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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #5 on: Sat Jun 11, 2022 - 14:46:35 »
 And  IRRELEVANCY  again , and feel that I am so  misunderstood and  being a  dispensationalist , I do  believe in  WATER  BAPTISM ,  just that is not  for  NOW ,  but that  Water  Baptism will  come  back during the  GREAT TRIBULATION , Mark  16:15-20 and have yet to see it  happen .

 But in  Acts 9:6 Paul says ,  LORD what do you  wish  me  to  do ?


 When Saul/Paul  said  LORD / Kurios what do you wish me  to  do , Saul is  acknowleging that  Jesus  is his  MASTER .

 Then  Rom 10:9  says , That  if you  should  confess with  your  mouth , the  LORD  JESUS , and  should  believe  in  your  heart that  God raised Him  from  the dead , you  will  be  saved .

Then  in 1  Cor  12:3  reads , Therefore  I  make  known to  you that  no  one speaking by  God's SPIRIT says  Jesus  is  accursed ,  and  NO  ONE  is  ABLE to  SAY  Lord  Jesus  EXCEPT  BY  THE  HOLY  SPIRIT .

 So  Saul / Paul was  SAVED  in Acts  9:6 .

And here is what  1  Tim 1:16  says , But  for  this  reason  I  was  given  mercy  ,  in  order that in  me  (  in  Greek the  word  ME  is  EMPHATIC  )    FIRST / PROTOS  , Christ  Jesus might  show  forth all  longsuffering  for  PATTERN  , OF THE  ONES COMING to  Believe on  Him unto  EVERLASTING  LIFE >

This  means that  Paul  is the  PATTERN  to  SALVATION >

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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #6 on: Thu Jul 28, 2022 - 16:09:50 »
dan p,
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So  how was  SAUL / PAUL  SAVED ?

 Was it  by God's  Grace ?

 Was  it by  WORKS ?

 Was he saved by  FAITH , ONLY ?

 dan p
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And  IRRELEVANCY  again , and feel that I am so  misunderstood and  being a  dispensationalist , I do  believe in  WATER  BAPTISM ,  just that is not  for  NOW ,  but that  Water  Baptism will  come  back during the  GREAT TRIBULATION , Mark  16:15-20 and have yet to see it  happen .

 But in  Acts 9:6 Paul says ,  LORD what do you  wish  me  to  do ?


 When Saul/Paul  said  LORD / Kurios what do you wish me  to  do , Saul is  acknowleging that  Jesus  is his  MASTER .

 Then  Rom 10:9  says , That  if you  should  confess with  your  mouth , the  LORD  JESUS , and  should  believe  in  your  heart that  God raised Him  from  the dead , you  will  be  saved .

Then  in 1  Cor  12:3  reads , Therefore  I  make  known to  you that  no  one speaking by  God's SPIRIT says  Jesus  is  accursed ,  and  NO  ONE  is  ABLE to  SAY  Lord  Jesus  EXCEPT  BY  THE  HOLY  SPIRIT .

 So  Saul / Paul was  SAVED  in Acts  9:6 .

And here is what  1  Tim 1:16  says , But  for  this  reason  I  was  given  mercy  ,  in  order that in  me  (  in  Greek the  word  ME  is  EMPHATIC  )    FIRST / PROTOS  , Christ  Jesus might  show  forth all  longsuffering  for  PATTERN  , OF THE  ONES COMING to  Believe on  Him unto  EVERLASTING  LIFE >

This  means that  Paul  is the  PATTERN  to  SALVATION >

 dan p
He could not have been saved by Acts 9:6. In Acts 22:16, which happened after Acts 9:6, he was still in his sins "...wash away your sins..." .

There is no scripture in the New Testament that says faith only. It's only the by grace alone through faith alone narrative that tries to push this. It was not a first century belief.
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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #7 on: Thu Jul 28, 2022 - 16:24:47 »
Dan you said
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And  IRRELEVANCY  again , and feel that I am so  misunderstood and  being a  dispensationalist , I do  believe in  WATER  BAPTISM ,  just that is not  for  NOW ,  but that  Water  Baptism will  come  back during the  GREAT TRIBULATION , Mark  16:15-20 and have yet to see it  happen .

Dan please if you would and please go into great detail even if it takes a few paragraphs tell Me just what your belief is on water baptism cause it defiantly sounds as if it is against the scriptural definition.


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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
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Re: HOW WAS SAUL / PAUL SAVED ?
« Reply #9 on: Thu Jul 28, 2022 - 19:01:46 »
Wow same thread from August 2010 and also Funerary 2011 and same one again I guess he forgot what was said in the last 2 must have demented like the Precedent