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« Reply #70 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 12:14:45 »
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« Reply #72 on: Tue Jun 28, 2022 - 19:34:11 »
  And in  Matt 13 38  the  field is the  world .

 #2  The  good  seed are the  children of the  Kingdom which is  Israel .

 #3 But the  TARES are bthe  children of  the  Wicked  one , the  DEVIL .

 #4 And  verse  40 says when this will  happen  , so  shall it  be in the  END  of  this  WORLD .

 #5 The  end of the  world ,  is the   end  of the  GREAT  TRIBULATION .

 #6  And  verse  41 says that  Jesus shall  send  his  angels to  gather out of  his  KINGDOM ,  all  things that  offend and  them that  which  do  iniquity ,

 #7  And in  verse shall  all be  c ast into a  FURNACE  of  FIRE , and  sound  like  the  LAKE OF  FIRE .

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« Reply #73 on: Wed Jun 29, 2022 - 03:48:24 »
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I have no interest in Heaven whatsoever. To me, it's a foreign country. I want to stay right here on earth during Messiah's 1000-year administration and visit all the places to which I have never gone, nor ever will go in this life; and to do all things I've never done, nor ever will do.

Can you just imagine having free rein of this planet with an immortal body and perpetual youth, and no fear of war, violence, poisonous snakes, toxic insects, or wild animals!? I can hardly wait. One of the first things I want to do is hike the triple crown: the Pacific Coast Trail, The Continental Divide Trail, and the Appalachian Trail. Yeah, Cirque of the Towers here I come!!!
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You do not need to hike~All you need to do is "think or desire" to be there and you WILL be there.

What we have to gone on is to see what it will be like with a glorified body is for us to consider Christ's activity after his resurrection during his forty-some days on the earth~before Pentecost came.

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« Reply #74 on: Wed Jun 29, 2022 - 04:44:27 »
Dan, in the parable of the wheat and tares who is taken first and what happens to them?

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« Reply #75 on: Wed Jun 29, 2022 - 11:30:41 »
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You do not need to hike~ All you need to do is "think or desire" to be there and you WILL be there

People hike the big trails for a variety of personal reasons. Some march thru like soldiers to get it done and chalked up, while other's take their time and savor every minute of the adventure-- all the sights, sounds, smells, and wild things that they encounter along the way: even the dirt, the dust, the bugs, the hazards, and the discomforts. They are in no hurry to get done because if they hurry, they might miss something.

Jennifer Mabus (a.k.a. Starburst) is one of those. She even stopped for a while to watch two small lizards battle in a territorial dispute. Hiker trash passing by thought she was nuts and wasting time; but Jennifer was in Nirvana, so to speak.

Well; that's me. I want the whole nine yards. Getting to the end of one of those wonderful trails in the blink of an eye is just not my idea of a heavenly good time.

Ps 16:11 . . You will make known to me the path of life; in Your presence is fullness of joy; in Your right hand there are pleasures forever.
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« Reply #76 on: Wed Jun 29, 2022 - 11:54:00 »
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There is a growing concern here in the USA about prison overpopulation. Well; the good news is: Messiah's kingdom will have no penal systems because He's going to rule in strict compliance with the law of God wherein there are no prisons.

Fines? Yes. Reparations? Yes. Lashes? Yes. Burning? Yes. Hanging? Yes. Stoning? Yes. Excommunication? Yes. But jails and prisons? No: confinement will not be an option. Justice will be swift, punishment will be summary; and there will be no appeals. People deserving capital punishment will get it that very day; no languishing on a death row.

Isa 9:6-7 . . For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder . . . Of the increase of his government there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice.

In our world, only the rich can afford justice. Tort law is especially unfair. Large multi billion dollar businesses can afford to stretch lawsuits out indefinitely till their less fortunate opponents are financially ruined trying to keep up. That won't happen in Messiah's world.

Ps 72:2-4 . . He shall judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with judgment. He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.

In my country, too many judges at the State and Federal levels are political appointees, resulting in a very large percentage of their opinions reflecting bias. It should be interesting to see how Messiah goes about regulating the world to keep biased judges out of its judicial systems. (cf. Psalm 82)
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« Reply #77 on: Wed Jun 29, 2022 - 17:00:42 »
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« Reply #78 on: Thu Jun 30, 2022 - 11:40:03 »
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My neighborhood is popular with joggers. Well; one day, as a youthful runner passed by, I noticed how springy their gate was. As they came down on each foot in turn, they rebounded, i.e. bounced.

Well; it hit me that it had been quite a while ago that any of my steps were bouncy. At 78, each time I come down on one of my feet, even when walking, I come to ground with a solid jolt, as if my legs are made of wood. I think it might be time for me to get a pair of those fancy sports shoes that absorb shock. In Messiah's kingdom, I'll be back to normal.

Mal 4:2 . . For you who revere My name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall.

Isa 35:6 . .Then will the lame leap like a deer.
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« Reply #79 on: Thu Jun 30, 2022 - 17:43:34 »
Hi  Jamie and I gave  answer  under  RB ,   about  Matt 13  on the  TARES  and  WHEAT  parable !!

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« Reply #80 on: Fri Jul 01, 2022 - 22:59:45 »
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I was very fortunate to enjoy the early years of my boyhood outdoors in and around the San Diego river back in the decade of the 1950s. Much of those outdoors are all gone now, bulldozed into oblivion to make way for shopping centers, factories, golf courses, and housing tracks. Where once I might encounter, at most, five or six people; are now hundreds.

There's a science fiction fantasy called a holographic environment simulator - a.k.a. Holodeck. With it, folks can re-create and visit historical events. Well; I would really like it if God has something like a Holodeck with which I could go back in time, so to speak, and revisit those 1950's environs as they were when I was a boy before progress erased them forever.

* Speaking of the 1950s; Saturday matinée at the movies cost just 20¢

They ran two features, previews of coming attractions, a cartoon, a newsreel, and usually a bit of serial adventure like Flash Gordon. We could stay and watch everything all over again at no additional cost. That 20¢ bought a lot of entertainment.
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« Reply #81 on: Sat Jul 02, 2022 - 04:00:09 »
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I was very fortunate to enjoy the early years of my boyhood outdoors in and around the San Diego river back in the decade of the 1950s. Much of those outdoors are all gone now, bulldozed into oblivion to make way for shopping centers, factories, golf courses, and housing tracks. Where once I might encounter, at most, five or six people; are now hundreds.

There's a science fiction fantasy called a holographic environment simulator - a.k.a. Holodeck. With it, folks can re-create and visit historical events. Well; I would really like it if God has something like a Holodeck with which I could go back in time, so to speak, and revisit those 1950's environs as they were when I was a boy before progress erased them forever.

* Speaking of the 1950s; Saturday matinée at the movies cost just 20¢

They ran two features, previews of coming attractions, a cartoon, a newsreel, and usually a bit of serial adventure like Flash Gordon. We could stay and watch everything all over again at no additional cost. That 20¢ bought a lot of entertainment.
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I well remember those days. But, then again not everyone could afford it. Bottle cokes were 6 cents, moon pie less. Drug stores sold ice cream cones for pennies. I worked for fifty-cent to seventy-five an hour..... dollar an hour in high school...big raise~but my mother got most of it to help out.

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« Reply #82 on: Sat Jul 02, 2022 - 15:08:08 »
NyawehNyoh & RB:

    I experienced those days myself. Gene Autry was one of my best singing and riding cowboys. Later in life, he lost his ability to sing. If we're not more careful, we will be telling our age.

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« Reply #83 on: Sat Jul 02, 2022 - 15:27:41 »
Glen Campbell and his brother Shorty sang a Marty Robbins song about Gene Autry.

https://youtu.be/e982M7K4_mc

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« Reply #84 on: Sat Jul 02, 2022 - 17:52:29 »
 Does God  need  air to  live ?

 We  that are in the  B O C are  CHRIST  and we will not need  air .

 Hope  you are  not  turning  flapdoodle  on  us ?

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« Reply #85 on: Mon Jul 04, 2022 - 10:26:13 »
We  that are in the  B O C are  CHRIST  and we will not need  air .
I don't remember a verse that says we won't need air.  Maybe you could point me to it?

I do remember a verse saying that we would meet the Lord IN THE AIR.  Maybe there's a good reason for that?  Like - He knows that we need that stuff to live.

Hope  you are  not  turning  flapdoodle  on  us ?
I know what I believe.  Most of the people here do, even if they don't quite agree with each other.  You I am not so sure about.

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« Reply #86 on: Mon Jul 04, 2022 - 10:56:24 »
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I think it's natural to feel a bit of anxiety about meeting with Jesus one-on-one because we dread he may be someone with whom we cannot relate. But not so. Jesus was on track to become a high priest. Well, that position has always been men rather than angels for a very good reason: sympathy, empathy, understanding, and compassion.

Angels haven't a clue what it's like to live down here on the earth as a human being. Well; Jesus did it for something like 33 years from childhood to manhood so he's better prepared to sympathize with our lot than are the angels.

The Bible says there is no trial taken you but such as is common to the entire human race (1Cor 10:13). Jesus wasn't shielded from any of those. The Word not only came as a man, but he also lived as a man.

Jesus knows by personal experience what it's like to be unattractive.

"There was nothing beautiful or majestic about his appearance, nothing to attract us to him." (Isa 53:2)

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be marginalized.

"He was despised and rejected" (Isa 53:3a

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be blue and depressed.

"A man of sorrows, acquainted with bitterest grief." (Isa 53b)

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be shunned.

"We turned our backs on him and looked the other way when he went by." (Isa 53:3a)

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be without pity.

"He was despised, and we did not care." (Isa 53:3b)

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be physically abused.

"Many who were appalled at him-- his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man  and his form marred beyond human likeness" (Isa 52:14)

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be a victim of injustice.

"He had done no wrong, and he never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal" (Isa 53:9)

He knows by personal experience what it's like to be stabbed in the back.

"Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me." (Ps 41:9)

Etc.

So then, when we meet with Christ around the table in God's home, I don't expect to meet a stranger to my way of life; no, I fully expect to meet a man who's been around the block a time or two. Not only will he be able to relate to my stories, but I in return will be able to relate to his. Sharing in Christ's glory would have the nature of an entourage if not for the fact that I will have the satisfaction of knowing that Christ, in a manner of speaking, came from the same neighborhood as I to get to where he is today.
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« Reply #87 on: Wed Jul 06, 2022 - 21:26:56 »
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Heb 2:5-8 . .The future world we are talking about will not be controlled by angels. For somewhere in the Scriptures it says: What is man that you should think of him, and the son of man that you should care for him?

. . . For a little while you made him lower than the angels, and you crowned him with glory and honor. You gave him authority over all things. Now when it says "all things," it means nothing is left out. But we have not yet seen all of this happen.

1Cor 6:2-3 . . Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

From the gist of 1Cor 6:1-5 it appears the justice spoken of is relative to tort matters rather than crime-- defined as wrongful acts other than breaches of contract for which relief may be obtained in the form of damages or an injunction; and  there are many categories addressing just about every kind of grievance imaginable, Well; I'm familiar with human activities but haven't a clue what angels might have to squabble about.

Apparently Messiah intends to delegate quite a bit of his administration's business rather than attempt to do everything himself; but to be honest, I don't feel capable of umpiring even so much as a little league game.
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« Reply #88 on: Thu Jul 07, 2022 - 11:24:27 »
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1Cor 13:12 . . Now we see things imperfectly as in a poor mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God knows me now.

Back then, mirrors were made of metal, and their surface finish wasn't nearly as good as the ones now. People's faces were somewhat distorted too, like those funny mirrors in carnivals. Plus, their reflection was like looking at the world through a dirty window; they could can see themselves alright, but not sharply.

For example; the first time I used the mirror in my bathroom when I got home from cataract surgery, I was startled to see how much I had aged over time without realizing it because now I could see all my wrinkles and blemishes clearly whereas before surgery I couldn't. It was like the operation had suddenly made me 15 years older.

For now the exhortation to "Know Thyself" is virtually impossible, but I think most us prefer not to see the real person that we are in too much detail: at least for now anyway.
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« Reply #89 on: Thu Jul 07, 2022 - 17:14:45 »
 Hi  Wycliffes  Shillelagh and  Col 1:16 re4ads  Because by  Him was  created   THE  ALL  THINGS/ TA PANTA  and  TA  PANTA  means  all  things , the  things  in  heaven and  the  things UPON  the  earth  ,  things  visible and  things  invisible ,  whether thrones or  Lordships or  principalities or  authorities ,  THE  ALL  THINGS /  TA  PANTA , have  been  by  Him and  for  HIM .

So , Christ  created  THE  ALL  THINGS and  that  means  every  thing ,  MUST  means  AIR  also !!

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« Reply #90 on: Sat Jul 09, 2022 - 20:27:28 »
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Human intelligence is produced by a three-pound lump of flabby organic tissue housed within our bony little skulls; and not even all three of those pounds are utilized for cognitive processes-- in point of fact, something like 60% of the human brain's mass is fat.

The IQ of roughly 67% of the population falls between 85 and 115 while 2½% lies above 130 and another 2½% lies below 70. Apparently the remaining 28% fall between 70 and 85.

A very bright magazine columnist called Marilyn vos Savant has an IQ ranging between 180 and 228; depending on the testing method and/or who evaluates it.

Point being; there are elements of the Christian religion that make no sense at all; not even to the brightest minds. For one: all of Adam's posterity were made sinners the very moment that he tasted the forbidden fruit as if they were right there tasting it with him in real time. For another: one man's crucifixion satisfied the justice of God for all the evil that humanity has committed in the past, all that humanity is now committing, and all evil yet to be committed in the future-- the totality of humanity's evil from first to last: all of it.

The IQ of the brain I have now cannot even begin to comprehend the logic of those two elements. However, the Bible predicts that Jesus' followers are on track to be given a body patterned after the supernatural body that he was given some time after his resurrection. Well; I anticipate obtaining an improved IQ with that body so's I can comprehend some, and maybe even all, of Christianity's remarkable mysteries.
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« Reply #91 on: Sat Jul 23, 2022 - 10:42:14 »
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According to Luke 16:19-31 it was possible at one time to communicate with one's family should they have perchance ended up on the wrong side of things.

Well; I sincerely hope that's still permitted because there are certain of my loved ones and BFFs with whom I would very much like to spend some time with before they are exiled forever in the lake of brimstone depicted by Rev 20:11-15.
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« Reply #92 on: Sun Jul 24, 2022 - 01:35:31 »
Hi  Wycliffes  Shillelagh and  Col 1:16 re4ads  Because by  Him was  created   THE  ALL  THINGS/ TA PANTA  and  TA  PANTA  means  all  things , the  things  in  heaven and  the  things UPON  the  earth  ,  things  visible and  things  invisible ,  whether thrones or  Lordships or  principalities or  authorities ,  THE  ALL  THINGS /  TA  PANTA , have  been  by  Him and  for  HIM .

So , Christ  created  THE  ALL  THINGS and  that  means  every  thing ,  MUST  means  AIR  also !!

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Yup, but He didn't put any of it up thar.

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« Reply #93 on: Sun Jul 24, 2022 - 10:32:55 »
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Only people with Heaven locked in have reason to expect anything there; everyone else is crossing their fingers for the best while in the back of their minds dreading the worst. And it's likely many haven't given Heaven much thought seeing as how in their minds even just getting there is a pipe dream, especially since the Bible says the majority passing on to the other side haven't been making the cut.

Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.
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« Reply #94 on: Mon Jul 25, 2022 - 18:31:48 »
mYou  believe that way of  salvation is  to  find  the  narrow  gate , which  leadeth unto  life  and  few  there  be that  find  it ,

 Do , you  believe that  Eph 2:8 is  not the  way   to  salvation ?

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« Reply #95 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 04:15:01 »
Is Jesus’s words in Mathew 7 contrary to Paul’s  words in Eph 2:8? I say no.
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« Reply #96 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 04:53:31 »
Is Jesus’s words in Mathew 7 contrary to Paul’s  words in Eph 2:8. I say no.
No conflict I see. 

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« Reply #97 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 04:57:24 »
Without God’s grace, there is NO way to salvation, narrow or broad. Saving ourselves is not a possibility.
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« Reply #98 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 13:56:26 »
In heaven, we will all be arguing about baptism. 

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« Reply #99 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 14:39:17 »
 In  Matt 13:38  the  field is  the  world .

In  verse 39 , the  Harvest is the  end  of  the  world and the  Angels are  the  reapers .

 the  ones  that  are TAKEN  are  the  TARES that vare  gathered  and  BURNED in the  fire ,  so shall it  be in  the  end of  this  world .

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Re: IF YOU GET TO HEAVEN , WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING ?
« Reply #100 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 15:15:03 »
In heaven, we will all be arguing about baptism.

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Re: IF YOU GET TO HEAVEN , WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING ?
« Reply #101 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 15:26:48 »
Dan, how does that line up with the Left Behind scenario of the rapture theory?
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Re: IF YOU GET TO HEAVEN , WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING ?
« Reply #102 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 18:40:47 »
 The  verse is in  1 Thess 4:17 !

 In the  clouds ,for  a  meeting of  the  Lord into  the  AIR /AER  and  so   we will  at all  times be  with the  Lord .

 The Greek  word  BE / ESOMAI  isinthe  Greek  FUTURE TENSE ,INDICATIVE  MOOD  and  is  PLURAL .

You  know  a  verse  where  God  needs  AIR  to  breathe ?

I do  not  think so as   CHRIST  made every  thing .

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Re: IF YOU GET TO HEAVEN , WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING ?
« Reply #103 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 18:50:06 »
No, what I mean is who is taken out or gathered first according to the parable of wheat and tares, the righteous or unrighteous? Nothing to do with air. In that parable, it isn’t desireable to be gathered first only to be burned up. Goes against the whole Left Behind narrative. In that parable, one wNts to be left behind.
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Re: IF YOU GET TO HEAVEN , WHAT WILL YOU BE DOING ?
« Reply #104 on: Tue Jul 26, 2022 - 19:47:40 »
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In the story told at Luke 16:19-31, a beggar was transported by angels to a pleasant afterlife location. I'm a little curious why the Bible doesn't say how Christians are transported to where they're going when they die. It's possible that the beggar's transportation is the way it's always been, and to this day still is.

Well; I have a question about that because when people pass away, they separate from the material elements of their existence, i.e. the solid parts. What is there for the angels to take hold of when we're ghosts?

I'm not sure that I won't be frightened out of my wits coming to on the other side with celestial beings standing around watching me take my last breath. The first words out of their mouths had better be "Fear not" or I'm liable to freak out like a bi-polar gorilla.
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