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IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 18:40:10 »
  So we  see in  Acts  10:45 the   HOLY  SPIRIT was  poured n out .

 Cornelius was  water  baptized ?

 Is  Cornelius PART  of  Israel ?

 And  how was  CORNELIUS  SAVED ?

 Or is CORNELIUS  in the  BODY  OF  CHRIST ?

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #1 on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 18:45:29 »
Who is Cornulius?

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #2 on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 18:46:57 »
Yes Cornelius was water baptized in Christ’s name. Why do you think Peter wanted to baptize him in water? Also, what was the ourpose of Cornelius and his family soeaking in tongues as the disciples did at Pentecost? I contend it  was for a specific purpose similar to the reason for the disciples on Pentecost. You don’t get to be the only question asker?  ::smile::


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47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #3 on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 19:00:10 »
DanP, why do you think Paul was commanded to be  baptized in Acts 22? He had just come from a face to face encounter with the risen Christ.
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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #4 on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 19:16:37 »
  Read  Acts  10:1  and on !!

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #5 on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 19:23:46 »
 I will  reply on Thursday  as I will have to shut  down  and will also post , DID  Paul  water  BAPTIZE  anyone ?

 Check it out as  I  know my  onions !!

Google what    DISJUNCATIVE  PARTICILE NEGATIVE  means in the  bible .as  most Greek  words like  NEITHER ,  CANNNOT , NOT or  LEST are these   DISJUCATIVE PARTICILE  NEGATIVES  as there are  many  in  the  bible .  Be  careful !!

Wednesday is my  day  off .

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #6 on: Tue Jun 07, 2022 - 19:28:31 »
Sure he did. Why wouldn’t he?

By the way I have read the ENTIRE chapter 10 many many times. Again what do you say the purpose of Cornelius speaking in tongues as the disciples did at Pentecost! It has to do with the context of chapter 10. It’s rather obvious.
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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #7 on: Wed Jun 08, 2022 - 03:00:45 »
So we  see in Acts  10:45 the HOLY SPIRIT was  poured out .

Cornelius was water baptized?
Yes~Acts 10:47,48.  A very immature question to ask. Something my small grandchildren would ask me. Why are you asking? Or, did you mean to make this a question? It looks like a statement until you put the question mark at the end. Dan, what county are you from? Obviously, English is not your first language.
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Is Cornelius PART of Israel ?
ALL of the children of God's promises are of the true Israel of God.
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And how was CORNELIUS SAVED?
The same way Isaac was born naturally~by two immutable promises of God: his oath and his promises! We are Abraham's children in the same manner as Isaac was! Read Hebrews 6:13-19; and:
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Galatians 4:22-31~"For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
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And how was CORNELIUS SAVED?
By God's free grace through the power of the Holy Spirit ALONE.
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Or is CORNELIUS  in the BODY OF CHRIST?
From eternity past until world without end.
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Ephesains 1:4~"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"
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2nd Timothy 1:9~"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Selah! Thank you most blessed God of heaven and earth.
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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #8 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 14:58:10 »
And is also  obvious  that  CORNELIUS could  NOT  be in the  BODY  OF  CHRIST  as the BODY  OF  CHRIST was  not made  known .

 What  is  happening in  Act 10 where  PETER  is using  the  KEYS TO THE  KINGDOM  OF  HEAVEN  by  admitting  a GENTILE to  Israel .

 Another point  is that  CORNELIUS  was  never  CIRCUMCISED as  some  Jews were saying  that without  CIRCUMCISION after  the  custom of  Moses , you are  not  able to be  saved .

So  what happens to be  SAVED  BY  GRACE ?  Eph  2:8  ?

 Or  to be  saved by WATER  BAPTISM ?  Acts 2:38 ?

 And could the 12  still  remit  sins as written in  John  20:23 ?

And in  Acts 10:28  is was  UNLAWFUL  , it is for a  Jewish  man to  JOIN HIMSELF or to come  near  a  FOREIGNER .

Pentecost  is  all  Jewish and not for  GENTILES  , but in  Acts  10:35  But in  every  NATION the  one  revering HIM  (  GOD ) and is  working  righteousness is  acceptable to  HIM  ( GOD  )  and that was  Cornelius >

 Acts is all  about  Israel  and   NOT  about the  BODY  OF  CHRIST .!!

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #9 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 16:22:01 »
No, the whole story of Cornelius and Acts 10 was to SHOW Peter and the other Jews that God had a plan for the long abhorred Gentiles. He showed him in no uncertain terms that the Holy Spirit fell upon the gentile Cornelius just as it did the Jewish disciples at Pentecost. Peter's vision on the roof was not about foods necessarily, but to demonstrate to Peter God's intention with the Gentiles that Jews had drilled into their heads that they were unclean.

Acts 10 is the beginning of the Gentile inclusion. Afterwards, some of the Jews tried to force circumcision on the Gentile converts, so yes Acts is all about the body of Christ. A lot of Acts addresses the natural branches (the Jews), but after Acts 10, it is about the Body of Christ as a whole.

By the way, God does the work of water baptism, by HIS grace through faith in Christ. Without God's work, baptism is just getting wet. Those two things are not opposed as you seem to indicate. It's not water baptism vs grace through faith. It is water baptism by grace through faith in Christ. Baptism cannot and was not parsed separately from faith, Especially in the first century. These days a lot of folks DO try that.
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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #10 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 17:49:57 »
 And who was  first in the  BODY OF  CHRIST ?


 Is it  PETER  ?

 What will be  Peter and the  11  disciples job  in  the  KINGDOM of  HEAVEN ??

 Show  me a  verse , please ?

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #11 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 18:38:08 »
Why? What will YOUR job be?
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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #12 on: Thu Jun 09, 2022 - 22:38:25 »
dan p:

    "And is also  obvious  that  CORNELIUS could NOT be in the BODY OF CHRIST as the BODY OF  CHRIST was  not made  known" [Reply #8].

    One-hundred percent off key! The one body of believers was ushered in on the first Jewish Pentecost following Jesus' ascension. Do me a favor and read Acts, chapter 2, after which you may want to drop this point.

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #13 on: Fri Jun 10, 2022 - 13:40:38 »
And in  Gal 3:28 reads ,There is  NEITHER /OV  Jew  nor  Greek , there  is  NEITHER/ OV  slave  nor  Free , there is  NEITHER /OV

 and the  Greek  word  OV is a  DISJUNCATIVE  PARTICILE NEGATIVE that those in  Christ  are a  new  CREATION and  also in  Col 3:11 says the  same  thing .

 And  why drop  something that is  true ?

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« Reply #14 on: Fri Jun 10, 2022 - 22:11:01 »
dan p:

"And  why drop something that is  true?"

You've gotta be kidding! Oh, well, irrelevant dialogue. Bye.

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Re: IS CORNULIUS in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
« Reply #15 on: Sat Jun 11, 2022 - 15:02:06 »
 And do  you  really  mean that  Gal  3:28 is  irrelevant , tell it isn't SO ?

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