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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #35 on: Tue Jun 21, 2022 - 13:20:14 »
ON WORD-FOR-WORD INSPIRATION

    Paul said [regarding marriage], “To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever...” [I Cor. 7:10]. Here the apostle is giving his own personal assessment of a marital matter. His personal opinion was not the “word of God,” as he clearly noted! His opinion was not divinely infused. From this example, and others, we see that not every word in the scriptures is the Word of God for not every word is divinely infused.
 
    Paul was personally inspired to ask for certain items from Timothy. Being himself was part of his humanity, which was always present. An example is his request to Timothy to “bring me my cloak...” If this had been heavenly inspired, the request would have been a revelation from the Lord. However, such is not implied. So, yes, we should differentiate between inspiration and revelation—and from revelation and translation.
 
    Paul told the Corinthians, “For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you...” [I Cor. 11:23]. Although divinely infused, he was still permitted to use his own personal style of writing and to choose his own vocabulary—as long as his message coincided with the Lord’s revelation.

    Paul was inspired by heaven when he affirmed, “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later [latter] times some will depart from the faith...” [I Tim. 4:1]. This is clearly a revelation to Paul from God, thus the “Word of God.” The words were not humanly inspired.

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #36 on: Tue Jun 21, 2022 - 20:56:08 »
ON WORD-FOR-WORD INSPIRATION

    Paul said [regarding marriage], “To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever...” [I Cor. 7:10]. Here the apostle is giving his own personal assessment of a marital matter. His personal opinion was not the “word of God,” as he clearly noted! His opinion was not divinely infused. From this example, and others, we see that not every word in the scriptures is the Word of God for not every word is divinely infused.
 
    Paul was personally inspired to ask for certain items from Timothy. Being himself was part of his humanity, which was always present. An example is his request to Timothy to “bring me my cloak...” If this had been heavenly inspired, the request would have been a revelation from the Lord. However, such is not implied. So, yes, we should differentiate between inspiration and revelation—and from revelation and translation.
 
    Paul told the Corinthians, “For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you...” [I Cor. 11:23]. Although divinely infused, he was still permitted to use his own personal style of writing and to choose his own vocabulary—as long as his message coincided with the Lord’s revelation.

    Paul was inspired by heaven when he affirmed, “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later [latter] times some will depart from the faith...” [I Tim. 4:1]. This is clearly a revelation to Paul from God, thus the “Word of God.” The words were not humanly inspired.

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+1  Solid post.

Basically, just take each Scripture for what it says it is.  If it says it's a prophecy, or 'by the Word of the Lord,' or 'by the Spirit' or it's written by one of the prophets, then we should consider it inspired.  If not, then not.

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #37 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 00:36:54 »
Right now it appears the truths are inspired by God, those things he was wanting us to know.  Since most of the NT is letters, there are some parts where the writer was talking about personal stuff, as well, things he was wanting to say, that aren't part of the teachings of truth that we need.  Anyone is welcome to explain to me the importance of Paul's cloak and other such personal matters as they pertain to what God is wanting me to know, though.
   

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #38 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 02:00:45 »
Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God. We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.
(1Co 2:12-13)

Spiritual in these verses refers to Spirit given thoughts and words.
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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #39 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 05:15:08 »
Basically, just take each Scripture for what it says it is.  If it says it's a prophecy, or 'by the Word of the Lord,' or 'by the Spirit' or it's written by one of the prophets, then we should consider it inspired.  If not, then not.
1 Corinthians 7:10
But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband

1 Corinthians 7:12
But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her.


When Paul says that it is the Lord speaking and not himself, what he writes can always be found in the Law and Prophets.  But when he said it the other way around he is speaking from the revelation he had shortly after becoming a follower of Jesus (Gal 1).

So either way, it is scripture and binding.

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #40 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 09:28:46 »
When Paul says that it is the Lord speaking and not himself, what he writes can always be found in the Law and Prophets.
I'll buy that.

But when he said it the other way around he is speaking from the revelation he had shortly after becoming a follower of Jesus (Gal 1).
I don't remember than being in my Bible.  Did you just make that up?

So either way, it is scripture and binding.
On the Corinthians?  Yes.  On us?  No.

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #41 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 12:21:21 »
Mere Nick:

    Your thoughts in Reply #37 are well worth reading a second and third time! Say, this is the first time I have seen anything from you for a while. You haven't had chickenpox or some other color pox, have you?

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #42 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 12:26:48 »
johntwayne:

You have my vote on Reply #38. How soon will the Election be?  ::clappingoverhead::

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #43 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 12:37:28 »
DaveW:

    "1 Corinthians 7:12: But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her.

    "When Paul says that it is the Lord speaking and not himself, what he writes can always be found in the Law and Prophets.  But when he says it the other way around he is speaking from the revelation he had shortly after becoming a follower of Jesus (Gal 1). So either way, it is scripture and binding."


    Binding even when he says the "Lord is not speaking," but instead himself? If yes, how soon can you get that cloak to whoever is requesting it? Just wondering, for Summer will soon be over.

Just a thought & Question,

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #44 on: Wed Jun 22, 2022 - 18:33:40 »
I check in every now and then, Buff.  If it's interesting and I want to say something, I say something.  Often times, though, it seems I've walked in on something similar to the debate about horse teeth.   https://jhellden.tumblr.com/post/38653988767/in-the-year-of-our-lord-1432-there-arose-a

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Re: Is Every Word In The Bible Divinely Inspired?
« Reply #45 on: Thu Jun 23, 2022 - 00:20:22 »
Mere Nick

 ::amen!::  ::frown:: ::kissing::

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