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Jewish Worship,Pagan symbols
« on: Thu May 28, 2020 - 15:18:50 »
It is a toss up if this should be posted here or Around the World.

The link is a very interesting article from an archaeological dig and even if you are not into reading that kind of stuff.... what they unearthed is well worth a look at the mosaic pictures of Zodiac significance within synagogues.

It is an extensive read, but truly educational if you are not familiar with these.
A basic explanation of the find.

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-israel/jewish-worship-pagan-symbols/

Please.Whoever of you is about to write that this IS a Christian site. May I remind you that these people came before us.  ::tippinghat::




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Re: Jewish Worship,Pagan symbols
« Reply #1 on: Wed Jun 10, 2020 - 12:27:40 »
Thank you for the interesting article.

History is written by the victors, and there is a tendency to project our own values and beliefs backwards onto historical figures. 

Jewish history is no different in this regard - the sect of Pharisees was the victorious sect with Judaism.  Jewish history reflects their beliefs and values.  Jewish history therefore demonizes other sects such as the Sadducees and completely omits the existence of others such as the Essenes.  In the case of Christianity, the Pharisees ostracized believers from the community to such an extent that Christianity was/is no longer even considered a sect of Judaism, and Christian history is separate from Jewish history.

I don't find it surprising that Jews of the 2nd-5th centuries would have pagan symbols in their synagogues.  The only thing surprising is that the authors of the article seem to have bought into the white-washing of history.  The Bible is clear on this point - Israel was always full of corruption, full of backsliding, full of people chasing other gods and traditions. 

Frankly, I find that even within the historical record of the Bible itself, the priests have downplayed the extent of Israel's corruption.  The prophets, however, are very clear, explicit, even uncomfortably so.

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« Reply #2 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 07:32:05 »
Remember the Jews who built the temples that held these zodiacal mosaics had spent quite a long time in Babylon learning all sorts of Satanic occult crap and the bad habit of burning babies in HOLOCAUSTS long before Hitler's men thought it a wonderful process.
The builders also hated Jesus and preferred Babylonian false gods.

Maybe the temples were windowless like the room Ezekiel saw as written at Ezekiel 8 in which Jews had the bad habit of making and worshipping graven images?

One thing we can be sure of is that the mosaics were not made by REAL CHRISTIANS as by the estimated date of production the REAL CHRISTIANS had emigrated out to England and America.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 08:26:59 »
Remember the Jews who built the temples that held these zodiacal mosaics had spent quite a long time in Babylon learning all sorts of Satanic occult crap and the bad habit of burning babies in HOLOCAUSTS long before Hitler's men thought it a wonderful process.
The builders also hated Jesus and preferred Babylonian false gods.

Maybe the temples were windowless like the room Ezekiel saw as written at Ezekiel 8 in which Jews had the bad habit of making and worshipping graven images?

One thing we can be sure of is that the mosaics were not made by REAL CHRISTIANS as by the estimated date of production the REAL CHRISTIANS had emigrated out to England and America.


Ah shucks.... ::frown::

I was so sure you were going to say because the real Christians were removed in 70AD.

I cannot wait to read what you are going to post in the Preterism forum. I am looking forward to it.

Of course, no "Christian" was part of synagogue/temple building. That would have been an abomination to them.

But off to England and America... ::doh::

BTW. I too can trace my lineage back to "viking" days.

I can trace thesee back BC... on my paternal grandmothers side.

But no one came to America until after Columbus made his journey... and then from Scotland and Ireland.  Nor did my German routes that trace back to 1492.

So does this make me not a "real" Christian?


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« Reply #4 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 09:29:20 »
Remember the Jews who built the temples that held these zodiacal mosaics had spent quite a long time in Babylon learning all sorts of Satanic occult crap and the bad habit of burning babies in HOLOCAUSTS long before Hitler's men thought it a wonderful process.
The builders also hated Jesus and preferred Babylonian false gods.

Maybe the temples were windowless like the room Ezekiel saw as written at Ezekiel 8 in which Jews had the bad habit of making and worshipping graven images?

One thing we can be sure of is that the mosaics were not made by REAL CHRISTIANS as by the estimated date of production the REAL CHRISTIANS had emigrated out to England and America.

Zodiac references may be found in the ancient Babylonian texts and artifacts as well as in ancient China.  Somewhat similar representations of the sky are also apparent in the artifacts of pre-columbian civilization in Central and South America.  (North American natives, who were basically itinerant hunter-gatherers, didn't create much in the way of esoteric confabulations.)

Greeks and Romans adopted the astronomical references from the Babylonian culture as well as Egyptian sources.  The church adopted most of its mythical ideology from pagan Rome Egypt and Babylon.   Jewish culture has been rejected for the most part by the self-righteous church.

Jewish tradition holds that the Babylonian Talmud, a document in excess of 15,000 pages, is the primary source of faux-spiritual knowledge.   There isn't one specific Jewish school of thought regarding Talmud Zodiac or Numerology.

There is no such thing as a REAL CHRISTIAN as suggested by the quoted post.   

According to Biblical record the first disciples of Christ were JEWS.  Scholars estimate as many as 33% of the Jewish population in Jesus' day became believers.  The entire Bible, except for the gospel of Luke and the book of Acts, was written by JEWS for JEWS.  Numerous references in the epistles attempt to teach gentiles the basis of Biblical LAW with regard to salvation offered by God in Christ. For the most part ANY reference to Jewish LAW as a basis for the post modern church religion has been denied and obfuscated despite Jesus' own words to the contrary.   Jesus didn't come to destroy the LAW (Matt 5:17).  Jesus came to destroy SIN.   Both LAW and the concept of SIN have been denied and ignored by the church both Catholic and Protestant.  Thus the original definition of a Christian, as found in the pages of the Bible, are denied.   Consequently there is no such thing as a "true Christian"".

When gentiles became members of the new religion they brought their pagan beliefs with them, ultimately corrupting the gospel as presented in the pages of the Bible.  Jews were ultimately forced to either accept pagan ideology and tradition in Christian churches or invited to leave. Church membership thus became the primary requirement for salvation, NOT the blood of Christ.   The ideology continues to this day in both Catholic and Protestant denominations.

There is thus NO SUCH THING AS A REAL CHRISTIAN.

According to the Bible, which nobody really believes any more, a disciple of Christ is justified by the blood shed upon the cross and by acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.  NO OTHER requirement is made.  Although disciples are encouraged to assemble for worship (if the government allows such a meeting), it isn't a prerequisite for justification in the eyes of heaven.   On the other hand, A REAL CHRISTIAN is a person in good standing with church membership including the payment of a 10% religious tax for the duration of his or her natural life.

According to the Bible, those who are saved become Jews (Romans 2:29) in the eyes of God.   Where then is the nomenclature of "christian" injected into the statement?  It is not found anywhere.

Today the protestant church is riddled with occult influences, immoral sexual aberrations, religious con artists and anti-semitic attitudes.   A real Christian should separate himself/herself from this mob of apostates. (Rev 18:4)

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« Reply #5 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 09:54:44 »
I'm Anglo Saxon and given enough time could trace my ancestry back to those days when they lived by the Roman road over the hills between West Yorkshire and East Lancashire aka The Pennines.
Your German 'routes' make you definitely American.

No Christian aided the temple building because at that date they were all living in England's green and pleasant land...or more properly in Scandinavia and north west Europe like as where my dialect and spelling come frum.

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« Reply #6 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 09:59:08 »
Jews what believed and followed Jesus is Christians by definition.

However I have to use 'Christian' and 'Real Christian' because the real truth is too difficult for you to understand.

Christianity today is really Simon Magus's perversion of what Jesus taught.


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« Reply #7 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 10:14:08 »
Romans 2:29?
You obviously cannot grasp that Jews is Judahites and Gentiles are transported Babylonian pagans.

So yes Paul does say some Judahites were saved by listening to and accepting Jesus as Messiah.
But you fail to grasp that the 10 tribes of Israel had to be transported by the Assyrians before the Chaldeans and their mystery religion could be transported into the land named Isrel.

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« Reply #8 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 10:18:22 »

I cannot wait to read what you are going to post in the Preterism forum. I am looking forward to it.


Aw shucks, what a childishness you display!

Preterism is to Christianity what Neanderthals are to Humans after Darwin's Meticulosu Research proved Earth is 6,000 years old and The Flood a worldwide catastrophe about 4,350 years ago.
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« Reply #9 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 13:28:32 »
[quote author=Rella link=topic=106174.msg1055166346#msg1055166346 date=1592659619

I cannot wait to read what you are going to post in the Preterism forum. I am looking forward to it.



Aw shucks, what a childishness you display!

Preterism is to Christianity what Neanderthals are to Humans after Darwin's Meticulosu Research proved Earth is 6,000 years old and The Flood a worldwide catastrophe about 4,350 years ago.

@lea ... please note what is said about Preterism here. Don't you want to jump in?

ETR... who has said anything about the flood. Not I. I am aware of when it was and also why.

As to the age of the earth... DO NOT bring man into this mix.... Since Darwin is infallible to you ::bowing::... what has he said about the age of all the rest of the Universe and the agesof the other Universes?

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« Reply #10 on: Sat Jun 20, 2020 - 13:35:24 »
Darwin's Meticulous research trumps anything the evolutionists can conjure up.

On my windowsill are a collection of Spider Stones that show how completely Earth's crust was shattered at start of flood.

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« Reply #11 on: Sun Jun 21, 2020 - 00:04:59 »
Christianity today is really Simon Magus's perversion of what Jesus taught.
There is an unfortunate amount of truth here.

I almost feel bad banning someone so studied, but we really can't tolerate such blatant racism, either...

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« Reply #12 on: Sun Jun 21, 2020 - 06:54:33 »
No this was a highly justified ban and badly needed. I almost did it yesterday just because she was such a bunghole. Good call WS.
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« Reply #13 on: Sun Jun 21, 2020 - 08:17:29 »
Banned?

Still has the listeing of member.

I still can PM.

Anyway.... we will see how they work around your ban.

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« Reply #14 on: Sun Jun 21, 2020 - 08:56:55 »
Banned?
Well, muted.  I guess if you reaaaaally want more of... that... in your life you can make PM's.

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« Reply #15 on: Sun Jun 21, 2020 - 13:07:26 »
Well, muted.  I guess if you reaaaaally want more of... that... in your life you can make PM's.

Thanks for the clatrification.

NO I dont though I did reply to a lot earlier but happy there will be no reply

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« Reply #16 on: Sun Jun 21, 2020 - 15:47:32 »
Well, muted.  I guess if you reaaaaally want more of... that... in your life you can make PM's.

Thanks for the clatrification.

NO I dont though I did reply to a lot earlier but happy there will be no reply

Thank you.

 

     
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