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Re: Knowledge of Good and Evil
« Reply #35 on: Tue Jan 30, 2018 - 09:39:38 »
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Simple logical answer to what happened.  Shame on you. LOL  tried to put a smile here but now that part of the site is not working for me
I will ask you the same question.  Did they not know that to disobey God was bad?

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Re: Knowledge of Good and Evil
« Reply #36 on: Wed Feb 14, 2018 - 20:04:00 »
When Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, what was the result?  I am not asking what God did to them for eating, that is ejecting them from the Garden; but rather what was the result to Adam and Eve personally.  The usual assumption is that they, having eaten of the fruit of that tree, now knew good from bad.  I ask the following: was obedience to God's statement to not eat of the fruit good and disobedience evil?  It would seem to me that was and would be so.  Did they not know that obedience was good and disobedience bad before they ate the fruit?  How could obedience be good and disobedience be bad if they didn't know that?  And if they did know that, then what happened when they ate the fruit.  What does it mean that they ate the fruit and then had the knowledge of good and evil?  What changed?

God told Adam what he did wrong to suffer his fate. After they ate from the tree they knew good from evil.

   
Gen 3:17  Then to Adam He said, "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat of it': NKJV

It is not wrong to heed the voice of your wife ( or anyone else), but it is wrong to believe anyone else when they tell you to not believe the voice of God. Now they, as well as the world, know that if we believe God we will live. To not believe God we know we will be judged for our sins and die.  We know good from evil.

God knew the end from the beginning.

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Re: Knowledge of Good and Evil
« Reply #37 on: Wed Feb 14, 2018 - 22:11:03 »
Moses wrote his creation account after Israel had fallen into idolatry and been sentenced back to Babylon.  The Israelites who were defacto Egyptians brought their abominations with them, rejected THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT OF grace, and were sentenced to captivity and death.  God in Revelation promises HIS paradise: The tree of life of the Egyptians and Babylonians is best understood by looking at the Sumerian, Babylonian and other accounts.

Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
Acts 7:42Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.





Rev. 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Rev. 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev. 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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Re: Knowledge of Good and Evil
« Reply #38 on: Thu Feb 15, 2018 - 04:04:23 »
Kenneth,

What has any of that have to do with the subject of this topic or with anything anyone else posted on the topic?

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Re: Knowledge of Good and Evil
« Reply #39 on: Thu Feb 15, 2018 - 11:47:38 »
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What has any of that have to do with the subject of this topic or with anything anyone else posted on the topic?

Moses wrote just AFTER the Israelites reverted to their EGYPTIAN worship of the GOLDEN CALF. 

I just posted one of the COMMON views of the TREE OF LIFE.   

There were TWO trees in the garden of Eden?  This speaks of the FALL WITHOUT REDEMPTION of the Jewish State.

Ezek. 31:9 I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.
Ezek. 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.
Ezek. 31:18 To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord God.


The Tree of LIFE is a symbol of Israel but Jerusalem is called SODOM?

The TREES in the Garden included the SUMERIANS whose creation God DENIES was His Creation.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1153&bih=1141&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=8MWFWrPnDI7XzwL_qaPADA&q=tree+of+good+and+evil+BABYLON&oq=tree+of+good+and+evil+BABYLON&gs_l=psy-ab.3...88006.90161.0.90555.8.8.0.0.0.0.88.596.8.8.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.167...0j0i30k1j0i8i30k1j0i24k1.0.UHYALHi5iqQ

The Temple in Jerusalem for the worship of the starry host is often pictured as a Ziggurat. That's why to be as wise as Abraham or Moses we need to read CLAY TABLETS or vessels of Clay.



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Re: Knowledge of Good and Evil
« Reply #40 on: Fri Feb 16, 2018 - 07:58:32 »
Knowledge here is used in the sense of familiarity. They were familiar with doing good and evil once they ate the fruit. Prior to eating the fruit they knew only doing good in this sense.
And they learned that going against the rules is fun. (for a short time)

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