author=NyawehNyoh link=topic=105189.msg1055153618#msg1055153618 date=1577555785]
● Jer 13:23a . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
The answer to both those questions is of course "no" because if an h.sapiens is born with black skin, it stays black; and if a cat is born with spotted fur, its stays spotted. In other words: the color of an Ethiopian's skin, and the spots on a leopard's fur, are indelible; they're permanent.
● Jer 13:23b . . Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.
That is an interesting take, but I'm not sure this is the message God was sending here. The idea that God created a Leopard with spots, then punished it because it has spots is not the message here, at least if you consider the Scriptures before and after, in my view
Jer. 13:22 And if thou say in thine heart, Wherefore (WHY) come these things upon me
? For the greatness of thine iniquity
are thy skirts discovered, and thy heels made bare.
23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
24 Therefore will I scatter them as the stubble that passeth away by the wind of the wilderness.
25 This is thy lot, the portion of thy measures from me, saith the LORD
; because thou hast forgotten me, and trusted in falsehood
26 Therefore will I discover thy skirts upon thy face, that thy shame may appear.
God is rebuking them here, not because of how they were created. That would be unjust, and dishonest and I don't believe God is either one. If we listen to Him, He gives us the very reason why these men are committing wickedness. They forgot Him and trusted in another.
27 I have seen thine adulteries, and thy neighings, the lewdness of thy whoredom, and thine abominations on the hills in the fields. Woe unto thee, O Jerusalem! wilt thou not be made clean
? when shall it once be?
These scriptures beg the question; Is it even possible for these examples to "Remember God" and trust in HIS Word's?
It is written in the New Testament many years after Jesus rose from the dead. "For the Law is not for the Righteous, but for sinners". It seems the cure for their ailment was there in front of them, they just refused to hear it.
Jer. 13:10 This evil people, which refuse to hear my words
, which walk in the imagination of their heart
, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.
This chapter places the blame for this wickedness on the person who chooses it. It's not that they "CAN'T hear His word's, it's that they "REFUSE" to hear His Words.
The Spirit of Christ also inspired Jeremiah to write the following.
Jer. 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths
, where is the good way
, and walk therein
, and ye shall find rest for your souls
But who really believes this, Right? You even say striving to follow these instructions will cause mental breakdowns.
"But they said, We will not walk therein
Is this not the very reason for their woes?
The apostle Paul said something similar in Rom 7:7-24; which is pretty much summed up in verse 18, which reads thus:
"I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh"
The Greek word for "flesh" is sarx (sarx); which basically indicates the meaty parts of either man or beast; i.e. the body. The meaty parts of course consist of not only muscle and fat; but also the organs and the brain and the nervous system along with the eyes, the ears, and the tongue. Those are all "meaty" parts.
What Paul is saying in Rom 7:7-24 is that the human body has a will of its own, and it quite naturally, and quite intrinsically, has a predilection for evil instead of good. In other words; any man who would be 100% righteous is in for a fight against nature, i.e. a fight against his own self-- an inner conflict that (speaking from experience) can lead to a mental disorder or a nervous breakdown.
Ironically, should someone manage to succeed in a war with themselves, in the long run it will be for naught because all they will have done is suppress their body's natural predilection for evil rather than get rid it.
Rom. 7:21 I find then a law
, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man
23 But I see another law
in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God
; but with the flesh the law of sin
Again, Paul understands the struggle between natural human desires which are contrary to God's Law. "Who shall deliver me" he says. Then He answers the question. He is "renewed" in his mind (heart). He denies him self as the Christ instructed. He doesn't "refuse" to hear God's Word, Rather, he serves the Law of God in his mind which directs his flesh.
This is a definition of the same Word's this Same Christ gave to Cain.
Gen. 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire
, and thou shalt rule over him
How? By serving the Laws of God, made for the sinner, in our mind, thus ruling over the desires of the Flesh.
The Flesh is still there, evil is still in man, but it no longer rules him.
We "endure" this condition, waiting for the redemption of our body. And those who "Endure" to the end, shall be saved.
Rom. 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time
(Oh Wretched man that I am) are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity
, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature (US) itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption
into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves
, waiting for the adoption
, to wit, the redemption of our body
24 For we are saved by hope
: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Hard to believe when we have centuries of religions teaching us not to trust in the Very Word's of God that He made for the sinner.