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LITTLE KNOWN BIBLE FACTS
« on: Wed Jun 14, 2017 - 14:13:04 »
"On their arrival in Capernaum, the collectors of the Temple tax came to Peter and asked him, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the Temple tax?”
“Yes, he does,” Peter replied. Then he went into the house.
But before he had a chance to speak, Jesus asked him, “What do you think, Peter? Do kings tax their own people or the people they have conquered?”
“They tax the people they have conquered,” Peter replied.
“Well, then,” Jesus said, “the citizens are free! However, we don’t want to offend them, so go down to the lake and throw in a line. Open the mouth of the first fish you catch, and you will find a large silver coin. Take it and pay the tax for both of us.
” (Matt. 17:24-27)

Biblical Fact:  Did you know that the day after Peter caught the fish with the silver coin in it's mouth over 500 fishermen lined the shore? It's true.  ::smile::

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« Reply #1 on: Wed Jun 14, 2017 - 19:54:44 »
fish153  -  Here's the truly little known Bible fact wrapped up in this brief story.

The "kings of the earth" term in this Matthew 17:24-27 narrative is really talking about the HIGH PRIESTS OF ISRAEL.  They were the ones exempt from the collection of the half-shekel for the annual temple tax.  Neither the high priests nor their "sons" were required to pay this - their "children" were "free" from paying that annual tax that the "others" in Israel were expected to pay every year.

Christ really shouldn't have had to pay that temple tax, since He, more than anyone else, was truly the Son of His "Father's house", and ultimately would become the "King of Kings" (meaning the high priest above all high priests).  That was the whole point of His question to Peter in this story.

The New Living Translation version you have used above translates this passage quite a bit differently than the vast majority of other versions.  It's not that the kings would tax "the people they have conquered" (NLT).  The concept of something "conquered" isn't anywhere included in this text.  Instead, the kings of the earth would collect custom or tribute from "others".  The original word is "allotrion", simply meaning something belonging to another - which in this case meant that the "others" were not "sons" (huion) belonging to these "kings of the earth" / high priests of the land of Israel.

Not to take away from the humorous bent of your post, but this scriptural definition of "kings of the earth" being the high priests of the land of Israel becomes extremely important when you encounter the same phrase in Revelation 17:18 (KJV).  "And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over THE KINGS OF THE EARTH."  This Mystery Babylon woman was "the great city", which (according to the interpretive rule of first mention) in Revelation 11:8 was the great city JERUSALEM, "where also our Lord was crucified".  Jerusalem truly was the great city that was then reigning over the high priests of Israel as John was writing his apocalypse.  (Incidentally, that helps to date the writing of the book of Revelation to a time when high priests were still functioning in the city - which had to be BEFORE the Zealots annulled the succession of high priests in AD 66-67, and set up an ordinary man as a puppet high priest by casting lots - Wars 4.3.6-8.)

This concept of a "king" being a high priest is an ancient one in scripture, reaching far back to Exodus 19:6 (KJV), "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests and an holy nation.  These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel."  Israel's leadership was originally in her priesthood - not in a typical monarchy.  Hannah also spoke of how God "gives strength to our kings" in I Samuel 2:10 (LXX).  This was before Israel's first monarch, Saul, had even been born, so she had to have been referring to the high priest leaders of Israel being strengthened by God.

Simply understanding this one, single concept as scripture presents it alters the way much eschatology is taught from the book of Revelation. 

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Re: LITTLE KNOWN BIBLE FACTS
« Reply #2 on: Sat Jun 17, 2017 - 14:02:49 »
you said..."Christ really shouldn't have had to pay that temple tax, since He, more than anyone else, was truly the Son of His "Father's house", and ultimately would become the "King of Kings" (meaning the high priest above all high priests).  That was the whole point of His question to Peter in this story".

but Jesus wasn't those others, he obeyed his Father Jehovah God. and he taught his followers to do the same.  we are to obey the governments, just as long as it didn't go against God ,(Matt. 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's).

Jesus knew he was the Son of God, but he NEVER placed himself above others. remember when he washed the Apostles feet? ,(John 13:1-12). he was sitting an example for his Apostles to follow ,(John 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet), basically, be there for each other. peace






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« Reply #3 on: Mon Jun 19, 2017 - 10:35:16 »
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Biblical Fact:  Did you know that the day after Peter caught the fish with the silver coin in it's mouth over 500 fishermen lined the shore? It's true.  ::smile::

Funny. Thanks.


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« Reply #4 on: Mon Jun 19, 2017 - 10:42:17 »
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Hannah also spoke of how God "gives strength to our kings" in I Samuel 2:10 (LXX).  This was before Israel's first monarch, Saul, had even been born, so she had to have been referring to the high priest leaders of Israel being strengthened by God.

Simply understanding this one, single concept as scripture presents it alters the way much eschatology is taught from the book of Revelation. 

Wow! Thank you very much for this. I know some take Exodus 19:6 to mean that all were priests in Israel, but it always seemed to me to mean that it is was a kingdom that would have priests.

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« Reply #5 on: Wed Jun 21, 2017 - 11:52:15 »
"On their arrival in Capernaum, the collectors of the Temple tax came to Peter and asked him, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the Temple tax?”
“Yes, he does,” Peter replied. Then he went into the house.
But before he had a chance to speak, Jesus asked him, “What do you think, Peter? Do kings tax their own people or the people they have conquered?”
“They tax the people they have conquered,” Peter replied.
“Well, then,” Jesus said, “the citizens are free! However, we don’t want to offend them, so go down to the lake and throw in a line. Open the mouth of the first fish you catch, and you will find a large silver coin. Take it and pay the tax for both of us.
” (Matt. 17:24-27)

Biblical Fact:  Did you know that the day after Peter caught the fish with the silver coin in it's mouth over 500 fishermen lined the shore? It's true.  ::smile::

surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre.....

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« Reply #6 on: Wed Jun 21, 2017 - 16:11:34 »
Simply understanding this one, single concept as scripture presents it alters the way much eschatology is taught from the book of Revelation.
You go great length to corrupt God's word...shame on you! Your preterism makes void much of the word of God for today's believer. You have taken your stamp and stamped almost all NT scriptures dealing with the latter days of the last day and forced your stamp on them which reads: FULFILLED 70 A.D.! You are leaving yourself unprepared for the evil ahead and your offsprings as well.

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« Reply #7 on: Thu Jun 22, 2017 - 01:03:16 »
jojo50  -  I would agree with you that with Christ's first coming into this world, He humbled Himself and did not place Himself above others.  It's true, that IS the practical application we can take away from this text.  The point Christ was making  to Peter in Matthew 17:24-27 was that, because He was the Son of His Father's house (the temple), by God's law He could have legitimately claimed His exemption from paying the annual Temple Tax as one who would become our high priest / king.  Yet to avoid offending those collectors of the half-shekel, He chose to waive His rights and paid the Temple Tax anyway.  As you have pointed out, this was similar to His washing the disciples' feet.  It was just another example of Christ demonstrating the heart of a servant, voluntarily putting Himself in our shoes and identifying with us.

However, in addition to that practical application of this story, as s1n4m1n is noticing, there is another benefit we can take away from this passage.  It is in understanding that terminology Christ used when He gave the label "kings of the earth" to describe the high priests of Israel - the ones authorized to collect the annual Temple Tax.   I imagine that most reading this short exchange between Christ and Peter don't ever realize just how critically important that one little-known fact is when it comes to understanding how John's Revelation used the term "kings" and "kings of the earth". 

As I have mentioned above, if these "kings of the earth" in Revelation 17:18 were then being reigned over by "that great city" which was Jerusalem, where our Lord was crucified (Revelation 11:8), then the date when Revelation was written MUST have been some time BEFORE the last-serving high priests loyal to Rome were in charge of Jerusalem (around AD 66-67).  There were no subsequent legitimate high priests appointed since then, nor will there ever be.  God Himself erased the genetic line of Zadok priests when the AD 70 temple was burned, and all genealogical records of the tribes went up in smoke.  Without proof of a continual family line going back to Zadok, the line was then "polluted", and excluded from serving.  (See the former example of this type of exclusion in Nehemiah 7:63-64 and Ezra 2:61-62.)

In addition, when John said in Revelation 16:14 that he saw 3 unclean spirits going out to gather "the kings of the earth" (the high priests of Israel) AND the kings of the whole habitable world together to do battle, this MUST have been a prophecy that was fulfilled when there were still high priests around to be gathered together - i.e. , BEFORE AD 66 when all of the high priest “kings of the earth” were gathered together and imprisoned in Jerusalem until it’s destruction,  as Isaiah 24:21-22 prophesied earlier.

Also, when John said in Revelation 17:1-2 and 18:9 that the "kings of the earth" (the high priests of the land of Israel) had committed fornication with the great whore, Mystery Babylon, that means the HIGH PRIESTHOOD of Israel had committed fornication with Jerusalem, "that great city", by being unfaithful to their mission as the spiritual leaders of the nation of Israel.  They had become solely concerned with monetary profits, (remember the "den of thieves" accusation against them), using all possible means to keep their office and financial standing secured under Roman authorization.  The Romans were actually the ones who were appointing whomever they chose to fill the position in those days.  As a result, the temptation arose to bribe Roman officials in order to earn the high priest appointment - a total corruption of what had once been a sacred role.

Also, when John's vision of the scarlet, wilderness beast carrying the whore in Revelation 17 was explained by the interpreting angel, John was told that the 7 heads on this beast represented not only the 7 geographical mountains that Mystery Babylon / Jerusalem sat upon, but also "7 KINGS" connected with this beast.  That means there were 7 men who had been HIGH PRIESTS who were connected with this scarlet wilderness beast.  Most significantly, there were exactly 7 men in the immediate family of the House of Annas who served as high priests in those first-century days between AD 6 through AD 63.  An eighth member of this family, (Matthias ben Theophilus, grandson of Annas), was that last-serving high priest from AD 65 until AD 66.  After that, the Zealots disposed of the succession of high priests by casting lots for an ordinary citizen to be their puppet high priest until the end of AD 70.

Also, a last reference to the "kings of the earth" / high priests of the land of Israel is found in Revelation 19:19.  This is where the scarlet wilderness beast with its "kings of the earth" (high priests) and their armies were gathered together to make war with the "King of Kings" and "His army" (the Roman forces who "burned up their city" as foretold in Matthew 22:7).  Since this prophecy concerned the "kings of the earth" / the high priests of the land of Israel, then we can know for certain that it MUST have been fulfilled during a season when there were still high priests in existence.  That rules out a gathering for these "kings of the earth" in a future fulfillment.

This season of gathering also included the scarlet, wilderness beast and the False prophet being cast while still alive (NOT as resurrected beings) into a lake of fire.  Consequently, that means our typical, presumed understanding of the lake of fire needs to be looked into more carefully. The lake of fire isn't hell.  It was the "second death" of the city of Jerusalem as Josephus admitted in Wars 6.10.1 - the second time it was burned down in a replica of its first death under the Babylonian invasion - and both times on the same day of the year.  The "kings of the earth", a batch of former high priests, were concentrated together in that city, in opposition to the Roman armies that God sent against them before the end of that Old Covenant Age.

It really is amazing what truths open up when we get just one "little-known Bible fact" correctly identified by scripture's terms.


RB  -  In response to your comment, I take no offense when you voice your opinions so strongly, because I know you to be a thoroughly decent man.  You and I may not be in sync on these matters, but I still maintain respect for your courage in vigorously opposing what you firmly believe to be wrong.  Please allow me the same privilege.  If you disagree with the point I have made above regarding the "kings of the earth" being the high priests of Israel, you will have to offer a definition in its place that aligns with everything else scripture says about the high priest's role in Israel.  I am trying to take the whole of scripture as it has spoken about the "kings of the earth", and it bears no resemblance to our modern concept of what a monarch is.

Was Hannah hallucinating in I Samuel 2:10 when she spoke of Israel's "kings" being in existence before King Saul was born?  When God made King David His "first-born, higher than the KINGS OF THE EARTH", (meaning the high priesthood), He was making a covenant with David that his Seed, Christ, would endure forever, as well as His throne (Psalms 89:27-29).  This "throne of His father David" was given to Christ at His ascension (Acts 2:29-36), when He became the ultimate high priest of all high priests - one that would never die as every other high priest before Christ had died and been replaced (Hebrews 7:22-28).  "Kings of the earth" is the term scripture uses to describe high priests - it's quite obvious.  And they should NOT be confused with the "kings of the whole world", as Revelation 16:14 makes a clear distinction between these two types of kings.

As to my views on fulfilled prophecy, I have tried in my comments to make it clear where I stand - that God did fulfill all WRITTEN prophecy by AD 70, but that the UNWRITTEN prophecy the 7 thunders uttered in John's vision was SEALED UP at that time.  The sealing of those utterances in Revelation 10:4, while the Old Covenant Age was "ready to pass away" (Hebrews 8:13), meant that they would be applicable to the New Covenant Age we are currently living in - that there was something intended prophetically for the age following AD 70, even though these prophecies were never spelled out in detail.

You may not have caught my comments regarding future trials and judgments on our current generation, but I have tried to be quite blunt about just how long I believe this world has before God will send judgments upon it.  I know your world chronology differs from mine, RB, but I believe that by 2033, this world will have begun its last, 7th millennium of human history (NOT the Rev. 20:4-7 millennium).  If scripture patterns mean anything at all, by then, this world will have entered a subdued, fallow period of imposed rest of some kind.  I expect the next 16 years to include tumultuous times that precede this fallow, 7th millennium, and have spoken to all my grown children at length of just how scripture lays out this pattern of 7 millenniums from creation to close.  The progress of God's kingdom is not based on a pessimistic plan: God has promised that it will expand against all odds, and even because of them.  It's only what we would expect from a God who is the author of all irrepressible Life.




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