Quotes following are from Robert:
So much unbelief. So much denial.
Yes indeed, you have so much of both.
Everything must be viewed in the light of the gospel. The gospel interprets the whole Bible.
That is babbling jibberish. The gospel is imparted to us via the whole Bible.
The Bible is a book of information concerning what Christ has done to redeem fallen humanity.
The Bible is a continuous written revelation of the story of God's redeeming of fallen man, how it all started, how it will end, all of it inspired.
If you don't understand the gospel you won't understand the Bible
You've got that exactly backwards.
Paul makes it very clear that we are to live by the Spirit and not the letter of the law.
That's a non-starter, a non-argument.....everyone here believes that because it is taught by Scripture, not by you.
What is the law? When one reads the commandments and the ordinances it does not take long for one to discover that the law effects every facet of your life. The Jews came up with over 600 rules to live by. Every scripture that tells us to do something is law.
Just because you are not to place your faith and trust in it does not mean to trash it.
It is a reflection of God, his character and perfection. You just utterly repudiate it.
It is impossible to obey the scriptures. If you try to live by the scriptures you will fail. When you fail, if you do not confess that you have failed, then you become a hypocrite.
You are the only one on this forum who has constructed this garantuan strawman. No one here argues that scriptures are created to obey for the sake of salvational obedience.
No one. You call us hypocrites, I respond that you do not speak the truth, nor do you find reverence a value connected to the God of your own salvation.
The Gospel is about how God in the person of Jesus Christ has come into the world to do for us that which we cannot do for ourselves.
Duh.
He is the new Adam and the new creation. By his sinless life he has offered everything to God that the law requires. He is our righteousness. We don't have any, because we are sinners. Because he was sinless he was able to atone for our sins. In Jesus Christ we have been justified, sanctified and redeemed. 1st Corinthians 1:30.
Every one of these concepts is made real to you only via scripture, and even in your reading and understanding of the Law. In fact, you cannot make this great leap of understanding except by God's quickening of you through His written word, for therein is where the Spirit works when you hear. You have not come to this realization because you have decided to trash scripture and live by the Spirit, you have selfishly clung to your own salvation as your glorious understanding of the gospel and your glorious trashing of everything written surrounding it. Your worship your own one dimensional thought construct and you seem only to be quite glad when you can find a scripture or two from Paul that seems to agree with you.
Because we are still in the flesh of Adam God does not accept our works and our obedience. God only accepts the work and the obedience of Jesus Christ. This salvation that God has provided for us in Jesus Christ took place completely outside of us, we had nothing to do with it. We are justified by faith alone apart from the works of the law.
And this is the other gargantuan strawman you create and pulverize against everyone here. I know of no one here that argues we are not justified by faith.
If you are trying to please God by obeying the scriptures you are under the law.
That is a created notion in your own mind. It is a statement of absolute ignorance. I have responded to this notion repeatedly. No one here has ever told you that we are to bow our knee before the Bible.
If you think that you have some righteousness that God will accept, you are under the law.
Sure you are, you're under the law of this world, controlled by the principality of this world, you're unsaved, you're an unbeliever, you're deluded by sin and the prince of darkness....and on and on, so what? Of course the only righteousness that counts is Christ's. No one here is holding their righteousness out in place of Christ's like you endlessly insist.
If you think that your works will please God, you are under the law
No one here thinks their own works will please God, Robert. It's just a ditto arugument I'm making to you......ditto, ditto, ditto........You won't listen because all you do in your glass house is sit there and judge everyone here as doing our own works to please God, to save ourselves, etc. Why not go ahead and call everyone here fools, then?
If you think that you are saved by what you do, or by what you have become, you are under the law.
Ditto.
To be under the law means that you will be judged by the law, and you are under the condemnation of God.
Ditto.
Let him who has ears to hear, hear
Let him who has a mouth and a tongue tame them, use them wisely, pray for wisdom and knowledge from God, and most of all, as James said, be quick to hear and slow to speak. You haven't heard a thing spoken to you by those of us here, you're slowness of hearing approches deafness. And your quickness to speak is that of pure judgmentalism, which in and of itself is characterized by quickness of speech in the absence of connected thought.
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