Did I miss something? THE COURAGE TO TALK TO YOU!
yea you did,
all I'm doing is thanking you for posting on the topic
All of these passages tell us that on the night before Jesus was crucified, He repeatedly said that He was returning to the Father now (not in a month and a half at the Ascension). Jesus went to the Father and then returned to the earth on the day He was resurrected. That's why the disciples were able to receive the permanent, indwelling Holy Spirit at the time of their salvation on the evening of Resurrection Sunday.
with this logic you are saying his second coming was on that day and happened already
That Sunday morning, Mary Magdalene was at the tomb before dawn:
"Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance." (John 20:1)
The risen Jesus appeared to Mary and told her that He had not yet returned to the Father. Then He told her to tell the disciples, "I am returning to my father":
"Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"" (John 20:17)
So on the morning of Resurrection Sunday, Jesus said that He was just about to go to the Father.
when did he go?it could not have been that day, it says until the day in which he was taken up.
1The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
[u]2Until the day [/u]
in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
3To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days,
and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Now pay close attention to the next set of verses
9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. from Jerusalem to the mount of olives where Jesus left from is a sabbath day journey, it may not take the Lord to get there but the people there had a good walk to watch him ascend yp to heaven
this is the time he went to the Father forty day later like the passage says
"On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." And with that he breathed on them and said, "receive the Holy Spirit." If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."" (John 20:19-23)
How could they receive the Holy Spirit unless He had gone to the Father?
what holy spirit are you talking about?
is it this
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit,
and they are life.
is it this?
All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;
it cannot be this Holy Spirit he cannot come until the Lord leave
1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
4But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
5But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
6But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart. 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.