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Pagan Holidays
« on: Tue Apr 28, 2020 - 22:23:34 »
EDIT: Please do your own research concerning these holidays. There may be some false information or theories on this page I am not %100 sure at the moment, I need to do further research, but as far as I know, what is posted is the truth.

CHRISTMAS
Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church. It was not instituted
by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority. Christmas was not observed by
Christians the first two or three hundred years. It was picked up afterwards from
paganism in the fifth century when the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as
an official "Christian" festival". Scripture does not tell us when Jesus was born but
gives clues that He was not even born in winter.

December 25th is not the day of the Lord's birth but is actually the birthdays of
the Roman gods Sol Invictus & Mithras. Which we know are no gods but sun/nature
and demon/fallen angel worship. A quick Google search will confirm this for you.

The pagan festival with its riot and merrymaking was so popular, that Christians were
glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and in manner.

Christian preachers of the West and Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity
with which Christ's birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia accused their
Western brethren of idolatry and sun-worship for adopting as Christian this pagan festival.

Remember, the Roman world had been pagan. Prior to the fourth century, Christians were
few in number, tho increasing, and were persecuted by the government and by pagans.

But, with the advent of Constantine as emperor, who his profession of Christianity, in the
fourth century, placing Christianity on an equal footing with paganism, people of the Roman
world began to accept this now popular Christianity by the hundreds of thousands.

But remember, these people had grown up in pagan customs, chief of which was this idolatrous
festival of December 25th. It was a festival of merrymaking, with its special spirit.

They didn't want to give it up. The recognition by Constantine, of Sunday, which had been the day
of pagan sun-worship, and how the influence of pagan Manichaeism which identified the Son of God
with the physical sun, gave these pagans of the fourth century, now turning over wholesale to
"Christianity," their excuse for calling their pagan-festival date of December 25th (birthday of
the sun god, the birthday of the Son of God.

And that is how Christmas got into Christianity. We may call it by another name, but it's
the same old pagan sun-worshipping festival. The only change being what we call it.

Also Santa being an obvious anagram of Satan. Santa giving worldly gifts to who he deems "nice".
Satan also giving worldly gifts & pleasures to those who worship him.



VALENTINE'S DAY
In the days of the Roman Empire, the month of February was the last and shortest month
of the year. February originally had 30 days, but when Julius Caesar named the month of
July after himself, he decided to make that month longer and shortened February to 29
days while making July a month of 31 days.

Later when Octavius Caesar, also known as Augustus, came to power, he named the month of August
after himself, and not to be outdone he also subtracted a day from February and gave the month of
August 31 days.

To this very day it remains that way. The ancient Romans believed that every month had a
spirit that gained strength and reached its peak or apex of power in the middle or ides of the
month. This was usually the 15th day, and it was a day when witches and augurs, or soothsayers
worked their magic.

An augur was a person filled with a spirit of divination (undoubtedly), and from the word
augur we get the word "inaugurate", which means to "take omens". Since February had been robbed
by Caesars and had only 28 days, the ides of February became the 14th day of that month.

Since the ides of a month were celebrated on the preceding eve, the month of February was
unique, because it was the 13th day that became the eve of the ides that month, and it
became a very important pagan holiday in the Empire of Rome. The sacred day of February 14th
was called "Lupercalia" or "Day of the Wolf".

This was a day that was sacred to sexual frenzy of the goddess Juno (there are no gods,
only fallen angels/demons). This day also honored the Roman gods, Lupercus and
Faunus, as well as the legendary twin brothers, who supposedly founded Rome, Remus and Romulus.
These two are said to have been suckled by wolves in a cave on Palatine Hill of Rome.

The cave was called Lupercal and was the center of the celebrating on the eve of Lupercalia or
February 14th. On this day, Lupercalia, which was later named Valentine's Day, the Luperci
or priests of Lupercus dressed in goatskins for a bloody ceremony.

The priests of Lupercus, the wolf god, would sacrifice goats and a dog and then smear themselves
with blood. These priests, made red with sacrificial blood, would run around Palatine Hill
in a wild frenzy while carving a goatskin thong called a "februa".

Women would sit all around the hill, as the bloody priests would strike them with the goatskin
thongs to make them fertile. The young women would then gather in the city and their names
were put in boxes.

These "love notes" were called "billets". The men of Rome would draw a billet, and the woman
whose name was on it became his sexual lust partner with whom he would fornicate until
the next Lupercalia or February 14th.

Thus, February 14th became a day of unbridled sexual lust. The color "red" was sacred to that day
because of the blood and the "heart shape" that is popular to this day. The heart-shape was not a
representation of the human heart, which looks nothing like it. This shape represents the human
female matrix (the womb) or "opening to the chamber of sacred copulation".

When the Gnostic Catholic Church began to get a foothold in Rome around the 3rd century A.D., they
became known as Valentinians. The Catholic Valentinians retained the sexual license of the festival
in what they called "angels in a nuptial chamber", which was also called the "sacrament of copulation".

This was said to be a reenactment of the marriage of "Sophia and the Redeemer".
As the participants of the February 14th ritual began their sexual sacrament, presided over and
watched by the priests known as Valentinians, the following literary was spoken.
"Let the seed of light descend into thy bridal chamber, receive the bridegroom... open thine
arms to embrace him. Behold, grace has descended upon thee".

As time went on, the Orthodox Church suppressed the Gnostic Catholics and manufactured
"St. Valentine", whose day continues to be celebrated in these modern times.

Christians should avoid Valentine's Day like a plague. In God's eyes, it is still
"Lupercalia", the "Day of the Wolf".
Men become wolves, as they carry on the Satanic rituals of fornication, which means
sexual intercourse without marriage. We have heard of the "wolf whistle", and we all know
that wolves do not whistle. It is lustful men and women, who carry on Satan's blasphemy to
this very day.



HALLOWEEN
The earliest Halloween celebrations were held "not by the inspired early Church, but
by the Druids in honor of Samhain, Lord of the Dead, whose festival fell on November 1".

This festival is an old pagan holiday, masquerading as though it was one of the customs of
the Church. And yet professing Christians allow their children to get into the spirit
of this pagan custom.

Now notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica says about Halloween: "It long antedates
Christianity. The two chief characteristics of ancient Halloween were the lighting
of bonfires and the belief that this is the one night in the year during which ghosts
and witches are most likely to wander about.

History shows that the main celebrations of Halloween were purely Druidical "from the
Druids of Northwest Europe and this is further proved by the fact that in parts of Ireland
October 31 is still known as Oidhch Shamhna, 'Vigil of Saman'. "Saman or Samhain was
the pagan Lord of the Dead among the Druids".

So Halloween was celebrated among the pagans long before Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
This pagan holiday, however, was not celebrated alone among the Druids.

It was also a Roman festival. The Britannica continues: "On the Druidic ceremonies were
grafted some of the characteristics of the Roman festival in honor of Pomona held
about November 1, in which nuts and apples, representing the winter store of fruits, played
an important part".

Notice the widespread pagan custom to celebrate this season of the year.

Among the heathen Druids, Samhain or Saman, the Lord of the Dead, was Satan.

To this day people still celebrate with frolicking fun, a wild night in honor of the devil.
In Galatians Paul says that the heathen who thought they were worshipping the true God were
actually serving demons. Undoubtedly!


EASTER
The name "Easter" is merely the slightly changed English spelling of the name of the
ancient Assyrian goddess Ishtar, pronounced by the Assyrians exactly as we pronounce "Easter".
The Babylonian name of this goddess was Astarte, consort of Baal, the sun-god, whose worship
is denounced by the Almighty in the Holy Bible as the most abominable of all pagan idolatry.

Easter "bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte,
one of the titles of Beltis, the 'queen of heaven', whose name, as pronounced by the people
of Nineveh, was evidently identical with that now in common use in this country".

The ancient gods of the pagans had many different names. While this goddess was called
Astarte in Babylon, it appears on Assyrian monuments found by Layard in excavations at
Nineveh as Ishtar (Layard's Nineveh and Babylon, page 629). Both were pronounced "Easter".

Likewise, Beltis, or Bel (referred to in the Old Testament) also was called Moloch. It was
for sacrificing to Moloch (1 Kings 11:1-11, especially verse 7, where Moloch is called
an abomination) and other pagan gods that the Lord condemned Solomon, and rent away
the kingdom of Israel from his son.

In the ancient Chaldean idolatrous sun-worship, Baal was the sun god, Astarte his consort,
or wife. And Astarte is the same as Ishtar, or the English Easter.

Also Jesus observed no Lent. The Apostles and the early true Church of God observed no
Lenten season. The forty days abstinence of Lent was directly borrowed from
the worshippers of the Babylonian goddess.


4TH OF JULY
In short, July 4th is actually the pagan celebration of "Old Midsummer's Eve" which is
based on solar (sun) worship, which we know is really just Satan worship. sun=Satan
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"In the British Isles, Midsummer Eve, the evening before the Christian Feast of
St John the Baptist, was celebrated on 24th of June. Old Midsummer's Eve fell on a later
date (one which Americans will certainly recognize), after the calendar change of 1752. In
the old Julian calendar, June 24th was celebrated as the Summer Solstice and the counterpart
to the December 25th Winter Solstice.

This calendar change has to do with Pope Gregory XIII (1572-1585), who changed the scope of the
Julian calendar. During the sixteenth century, the calendar was ten days slow, as the Romans'
during the reign of Julius Caesar was ten days behind the sun. Under Pope Gregory's orders,
a more accurate calendar was constructed and the Julian calendar was replaced with the Gregorian
calendar. The correction of the drifting of the calendar away from the astronomically fixed
moments of the solstices and equinoxes was the very reason for the Gregorian reform (so that the
date of Easter could be reliably calculated by the Church). Ten days were "skipped" in October of
1582 to realign the calendar correctly with the sun.

However, many non-Catholic countries did not go along with this calendric change for years, so England
did not adopt the modern Gregorian calendar until 1752 (one hundred and seventy years later). With
the old Julian calendar eleven days behind the new Gregorian calendar, it was necessary to drop the
eleven days. In the 1752 reform in Britain, the old Julian calendar was eleven days off, which
required the change made wherein the 11:59 PM September 2, 1752 was followed by 12:00 AM September 14, 1752.

This was how the people of Europe came to celebrate Old Midsummer's Eve on
July 4th (eleven days after June 23). Many people found it hard to accept that eleven
days had just disappeared, so they continued to refer to holidays by the old Julian calendar by
the word "old" before the holiday. The "new" date of July 4th was actually the "old" June 23rd.
As a result, instead of celebrating Midsummer's Eve on June 23th,
many celebrated Old Midsummer's Eve on July 4th."



The world is at enmity to God.
We are to be in the world, not of the world.

1 John 17:16
"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."

1 John 2:15
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Let us not be partakers of the sinful pleasures and idolatrous celebrations of the heathen world but let us
take hold of eternal life through obedience unto God and His commandments.
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CHRISTMAS
Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church. It was not instituted
by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority. Christmas was not observed by
Christians the first two or three hundred years. It was picked up afterwards from
paganism in the fifth century when the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as
an official "Christian" festival". Scripture does not tell us when Jesus was born but
gives clues that He was not even born in winter.

December 25th is not the day of the Lord's birth but is actually the birthdays of
the Roman gods Sol Invictus & Mithras. Which we know are no gods but sun/nature
and demon/fallen angel worship. A quick Google search will confirm this for you.

The pagan festival with its riot and merrymaking was so popular, that Christians were
glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and in manner.

Christian preachers of the West and Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity
with which Christ's birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia accused their
Western brethren of idolatry and sun-worship for adopting as Christian this pagan festival.

Remember, the Roman world had been pagan. Prior to the fourth century, Christians were
few in number, tho increasing, and were persecuted by the government and by pagans.

But, with the advent of Constantine as emperor, who his profession of Christianity, in the
fourth century, placing Christianity on an equal footing with paganism, people of the Roman
world began to accept this now popular Christianity by the hundreds of thousands.

But remember, these people had grown up in pagan customs, chief of which was this idolatrous
festival of December 25th. It was a festival of merrymaking, with its special spirit.

They didn't want to give it up. The recognition by Constantine, of Sunday, which had been the day
of pagan sun-worship, and how the influence of pagan Manichaeism which identified the Son of God
with the physical sun, gave these pagans of the fourth century, now turning over wholesale to
"Christianity," their excuse for calling their pagan-festival date of December 25th (birthday of
the sun god, the birthday of the Son of God.

And that is how Christmas got into Christianity. We may call it by another name, but it's
the same old pagan sun-worshipping festival. The only change being what we call it.

Also Santa being an obvious anagram of Satan. Santa giving worldly gifts to who he deems "nice".
Satan also giving worldly gifts & pleasures to those who worship him.



VALENTINE'S DAY
In the days of the Roman Empire, the month of February was the last and shortest month
of the year. February originally had 30 days, but when Julius Caesar named the month of
July after himself, he decided to make that month longer and shortened February to 29
days while making July a month of 31 days.

Later when Octavius Caesar, also known as Augustus, came to power, he named the month of August
after himself, and not to be outdone he also subtracted a day from February and gave the month of
August 31 days.

To this very day it remains that way. The ancient Romans believed that every month had a
spirit that gained strength and reached its peak or apex of power in the middle or ides of the
month. This was usually the 15th day, and it was a day when witches and augurs, or soothsayers
worked their magic.

An augur was a person filled with a spirit of divination (undoubtedly), and from the word
augur we get the word "inaugurate", which means to "take omens". Since February had been robbed
by Caesars and had only 28 days, the ides of February became the 14th day of that month.

Since the ides of a month were celebrated on the preceding eve, the month of February was
unique, because it was the 13th day that became the eve of the ides that month, and it
became a very important pagan holiday in the Empire of Rome. The sacred day of February 14th
was called "Lupercalia" or "Day of the Wolf".

This was a day that was sacred to sexual frenzy of the goddess Juno (there are no gods,
only fallen angels/demons). This day also honored the Roman gods, Lupercus and
Faunus, as well as the legendary twin brothers, who supposedly founded Rome, Remus and Romulus.
These two are said to have been suckled by wolves in a cave on Palatine Hill of Rome.

The cave was called Lupercal and was the center of the celebrating on the eve of Lupercalia or
February 14th. On this day, Lupercalia, which was later named Valentine's Day, the Luperci
or priests of Lupercus dressed in goatskins for a bloody ceremony.

The priests of Lupercus, the wolf god, would sacrifice goats and a dog and then smear themselves
with blood. These priests, made red with sacrificial blood, would run around Palatine Hill
in a wild frenzy while carving a goatskin thong called a "februa".

Women would sit all around the hill, as the bloody priests would strike them with the goatskin
thongs to make them fertile. The young women would then gather in the city and their names
were put in boxes.

These "love notes" were called "billets". The men of Rome would draw a billet, and the woman
whose name was on it became his sexual lust partner with whom he would fornicate until
the next Lupercalia or February 14th.

Thus, February 14th became a day of unbridled sexual lust. The color "red" was sacred to that day
because of the blood and the "heart shape" that is popular to this day. The heart-shape was not a
representation of the human heart, which looks nothing like it. This shape represents the human
female matrix (the womb) or "opening to the chamber of sacred copulation".

When the Gnostic Catholic Church began to get a foothold in Rome around the 3rd century A.D., they
became known as Valentinians. The Catholic Valentinians retained the sexual license of the festival
in what they called "angels in a nuptial chamber", which was also called the "sacrament of copulation".

This was said to be a reenactment of the marriage of "Sophia and the Redeemer".
As the participants of the February 14th ritual began their sexual sacrament, presided over and
watched by the priests known as Valentinians, the following literary was spoken.
"Let the seed of light descend into thy bridal chamber, receive the bridegroom... open thine
arms to embrace him. Behold, grace has descended upon thee".

As time went on, the Orthodox Church suppressed the Gnostic Catholics and manufactured
"St. Valentine", whose day continues to be celebrated in these modern times.

Christians should avoid Valentine's Day like a plague. In God's eyes, it is still
"Lupercalia", the "Day of the Wolf".
Men become wolves, as they carry on the Satanic rituals of fornication, which means
sexual intercourse without marriage. We have heard of the "wolf whistle", and we all know
that wolves do not whistle. It is lustful men and women, who carry on Satan's blasphemy to
this very day.



HALLOWEEN
The earliest Halloween celebrations were held "not by the inspired early Church, but
by the Druids in honor of Samhain, Lord of the Dead, whose festival fell on November 1".

This festival is an old pagan holiday, masquerading as though it was one of the customs of
the Church. And yet professing Christians allow their children to get into the spirit
of this pagan custom.

Now notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica says about Halloween: "It long antedates
Christianity. The two chief characteristics of ancient Halloween were the lighting
of bonfires and the belief that this is the one night in the year during which ghosts
and witches are most likely to wander about.

History shows that the main celebrations of Halloween were purely Druidical "from the
Druids of Northwest Europe and this is further proved by the fact that in parts of Ireland
October 31 is still known as Oidhch Shamhna, 'Vigil of Saman'. "Saman or Samhain was
the pagan Lord of the Dead among the Druids".

So Halloween was celebrated among the pagans long before Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
This pagan holiday, however, was not celebrated alone among the Druids.

It was also a Roman festival. The Britannica continues: "On the Druidic ceremonies were
grafted some of the characteristics of the Roman festival in honor of Pomona held
about November 1, in which nuts and apples, representing the winter store of fruits, played
an important part".

Notice the widespread pagan custom to celebrate this season of the year.

Among the heathen Druids, Samhain or Saman, the Lord of the Dead, was Satan.

To this day people still celebrate with frolicking fun, a wild night in honor of the devil.
In Galatians Paul says that the heathen who thought they were worshipping the true God were
actually serving demons. Undoubtedly!


EASTER
The name "Easter" is merely the slightly changed English spelling of the name of the
ancient Assyrian goddess Ishtar, pronounced by the Assyrians exactly as we pronounce "Easter".
The Babylonian name of this goddess was Astarte, consort of Baal, the sun-god, whose worship
is denounced by the Almighty in the Holy Bible as the most abominable of all pagan idolatry.

Easter "bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte,
one of the titles of Beltis, the 'queen of heaven', whose name, as pronounced by the people
of Nineveh, was evidently identical with that now in common use in this country".

The ancient gods of the pagans had many different names. While this goddess was called
Astarte in Babylon, it appears on Assyrian monuments found by Layard in excavations at
Nineveh as Ishtar (Layard's Nineveh and Babylon, page 629). Both were pronounced "Easter".

Likewise, Beltis, or Bel (referred to in the Old Testament) also was called Moloch. It was
for sacrificing to Moloch (1 Kings 11:1-11, especially verse 7, where Moloch is called
an abomination) and other pagan gods that the Lord condemned Solomon, and rent away
the kingdom of Israel from his son.

In the ancient Chaldean idolatrous sun-worship, Baal was the sun god, Astarte his consort,
or wife. And Astarte is the same as Ishtar, or the English Easter.

Also Jesus observed no Lent. The Apostles and the early true Church of God observed no
Lenten season. The forty days abstinence of Lent was directly borrowed from
the worshippers of the Babylonian goddess.


4TH OF JULY
In short, July 4th is actually the pagan celebration of "Old Midsummer's Eve" which is
based on solar (sun) worship, which we know is really just Satan worship. sun=Satan
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"In the British Isles, Midsummer Eve, the evening before the Christian Feast of
St John the Baptist, was celebrated on 24th of June. Old Midsummer's Eve fell on a later
date (one which Americans will certainly recognize), after the calendar change of 1752. In
the old Julian calendar, June 24th was celebrated as the Summer Solstice and the counterpart
to the December 25th Winter Solstice.

This calendar change has to do with Pope Gregory XIII (1572-1585), who changed the scope of the
Julian calendar. During the sixteenth century, the calendar was ten days slow, as the Romans'
during the reign of Julius Caesar was ten days behind the sun. Under Pope Gregory's orders,
a more accurate calendar was constructed and the Julian calendar was replaced with the Gregorian
calendar. The correction of the drifting of the calendar away from the astronomically fixed
moments of the solstices and equinoxes was the very reason for the Gregorian reform (so that the
date of Easter could be reliably calculated by the Church). Ten days were "skipped" in October of
1582 to realign the calendar correctly with the sun.

However, many non-Catholic countries did not go along with this calendric change for years, so England
did not adopt the modern Gregorian calendar until 1752 (one hundred and seventy years later). With
the old Julian calendar eleven days behind the new Gregorian calendar, it was necessary to drop the
eleven days. In the 1752 reform in Britain, the old Julian calendar was eleven days off, which
required the change made wherein the 11:59 PM September 2, 1752 was followed by 12:00 AM September 14, 1752.

This was how the people of Europe came to celebrate Old Midsummer's Eve on
July 4th (eleven days after June 23). Many people found it hard to accept that eleven
days had just disappeared, so they continued to refer to holidays by the old Julian calendar by
the word "old" before the holiday. The "new" date of July 4th was actually the "old" June 23rd.
As a result, instead of celebrating Midsummer's Eve on June 23th,
many celebrated Old Midsummer's Eve on July 4th."



The world is at enmity to God.
We are to be in the world, not of the world.

1 John 17:16
"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."

1 John 2:15
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Let us not be partakers of the sinful pleasures and idolatrous celebrations of the heathen world but let us
take hold of eternal life through obedience unto God and His commandments.
I don't know where you got all this stuff from but it's a load of rubbish.
I suggest you read some real history.

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« Reply #2 on: Wed Apr 29, 2020 - 08:55:03 »
CHRISTMAS
Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church. It was not instituted
by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority. Christmas was not observed by
Christians the first two or three hundred years. It was picked up afterwards from
paganism in the fifth century when the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as
an official "Christian" festival". Scripture does not tell us when Jesus was born but
gives clues that He was not even born in winter.

December 25th is not the day of the Lord's birth but is actually the birthdays of
the Roman gods Sol Invictus & Mithras. Which we know are no gods but sun/nature
and demon/fallen angel worship. A quick Google search will confirm this for you.

The pagan festival with its riot and merrymaking was so popular, that Christians were
glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and in manner.

Christian preachers of the West and Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity
with which Christ's birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia accused their
Western brethren of idolatry and sun-worship for adopting as Christian this pagan festival.

Remember, the Roman world had been pagan. Prior to the fourth century, Christians were
few in number, tho increasing, and were persecuted by the government and by pagans.

But, with the advent of Constantine as emperor, who his profession of Christianity, in the
fourth century, placing Christianity on an equal footing with paganism, people of the Roman
world began to accept this now popular Christianity by the hundreds of thousands.

But remember, these people had grown up in pagan customs, chief of which was this idolatrous
festival of December 25th. It was a festival of merrymaking, with its special spirit.

They didn't want to give it up. The recognition by Constantine, of Sunday, which had been the day
of pagan sun-worship, and how the influence of pagan Manichaeism which identified the Son of God
with the physical sun, gave these pagans of the fourth century, now turning over wholesale to
"Christianity," their excuse for calling their pagan-festival date of December 25th (birthday of
the sun god, the birthday of the Son of God.

And that is how Christmas got into Christianity. We may call it by another name, but it's
the same old pagan sun-worshipping festival. The only change being what we call it.

Also Santa being an obvious anagram of Satan. Santa giving worldly gifts to who he deems "nice".
Satan also giving worldly gifts & pleasures to those who worship him.



VALENTINE'S DAY
In the days of the Roman Empire, the month of February was the last and shortest month
of the year. February originally had 30 days, but when Julius Caesar named the month of
July after himself, he decided to make that month longer and shortened February to 29
days while making July a month of 31 days.

Later when Octavius Caesar, also known as Augustus, came to power, he named the month of August
after himself, and not to be outdone he also subtracted a day from February and gave the month of
August 31 days.

To this very day it remains that way. The ancient Romans believed that every month had a
spirit that gained strength and reached its peak or apex of power in the middle or ides of the
month. This was usually the 15th day, and it was a day when witches and augurs, or soothsayers
worked their magic.

An augur was a person filled with a spirit of divination (undoubtedly), and from the word
augur we get the word "inaugurate", which means to "take omens". Since February had been robbed
by Caesars and had only 28 days, the ides of February became the 14th day of that month.

Since the ides of a month were celebrated on the preceding eve, the month of February was
unique, because it was the 13th day that became the eve of the ides that month, and it
became a very important pagan holiday in the Empire of Rome. The sacred day of February 14th
was called "Lupercalia" or "Day of the Wolf".

This was a day that was sacred to sexual frenzy of the goddess Juno (there are no gods,
only fallen angels/demons). This day also honored the Roman gods, Lupercus and
Faunus, as well as the legendary twin brothers, who supposedly founded Rome, Remus and Romulus.
These two are said to have been suckled by wolves in a cave on Palatine Hill of Rome.

The cave was called Lupercal and was the center of the celebrating on the eve of Lupercalia or
February 14th. On this day, Lupercalia, which was later named Valentine's Day, the Luperci
or priests of Lupercus dressed in goatskins for a bloody ceremony.

The priests of Lupercus, the wolf god, would sacrifice goats and a dog and then smear themselves
with blood. These priests, made red with sacrificial blood, would run around Palatine Hill
in a wild frenzy while carving a goatskin thong called a "februa".

Women would sit all around the hill, as the bloody priests would strike them with the goatskin
thongs to make them fertile. The young women would then gather in the city and their names
were put in boxes.

These "love notes" were called "billets". The men of Rome would draw a billet, and the woman
whose name was on it became his sexual lust partner with whom he would fornicate until
the next Lupercalia or February 14th.

Thus, February 14th became a day of unbridled sexual lust. The color "red" was sacred to that day
because of the blood and the "heart shape" that is popular to this day. The heart-shape was not a
representation of the human heart, which looks nothing like it. This shape represents the human
female matrix (the womb) or "opening to the chamber of sacred copulation".

When the Gnostic Catholic Church began to get a foothold in Rome around the 3rd century A.D., they
became known as Valentinians. The Catholic Valentinians retained the sexual license of the festival
in what they called "angels in a nuptial chamber", which was also called the "sacrament of copulation".

This was said to be a reenactment of the marriage of "Sophia and the Redeemer".
As the participants of the February 14th ritual began their sexual sacrament, presided over and
watched by the priests known as Valentinians, the following literary was spoken.
"Let the seed of light descend into thy bridal chamber, receive the bridegroom... open thine
arms to embrace him. Behold, grace has descended upon thee".

As time went on, the Orthodox Church suppressed the Gnostic Catholics and manufactured
"St. Valentine", whose day continues to be celebrated in these modern times.

Christians should avoid Valentine's Day like a plague. In God's eyes, it is still
"Lupercalia", the "Day of the Wolf".
Men become wolves, as they carry on the Satanic rituals of fornication, which means
sexual intercourse without marriage. We have heard of the "wolf whistle", and we all know
that wolves do not whistle. It is lustful men and women, who carry on Satan's blasphemy to
this very day.



HALLOWEEN
The earliest Halloween celebrations were held "not by the inspired early Church, but
by the Druids in honor of Samhain, Lord of the Dead, whose festival fell on November 1".

This festival is an old pagan holiday, masquerading as though it was one of the customs of
the Church. And yet professing Christians allow their children to get into the spirit
of this pagan custom.

Now notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica says about Halloween: "It long antedates
Christianity. The two chief characteristics of ancient Halloween were the lighting
of bonfires and the belief that this is the one night in the year during which ghosts
and witches are most likely to wander about.

History shows that the main celebrations of Halloween were purely Druidical "from the
Druids of Northwest Europe and this is further proved by the fact that in parts of Ireland
October 31 is still known as Oidhch Shamhna, 'Vigil of Saman'. "Saman or Samhain was
the pagan Lord of the Dead among the Druids".

So Halloween was celebrated among the pagans long before Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
This pagan holiday, however, was not celebrated alone among the Druids.

It was also a Roman festival. The Britannica continues: "On the Druidic ceremonies were
grafted some of the characteristics of the Roman festival in honor of Pomona held
about November 1, in which nuts and apples, representing the winter store of fruits, played
an important part".

Notice the widespread pagan custom to celebrate this season of the year.

Among the heathen Druids, Samhain or Saman, the Lord of the Dead, was Satan.

To this day people still celebrate with frolicking fun, a wild night in honor of the devil.
In Galatians Paul says that the heathen who thought they were worshipping the true God were
actually serving demons. Undoubtedly!


EASTER
The name "Easter" is merely the slightly changed English spelling of the name of the
ancient Assyrian goddess Ishtar, pronounced by the Assyrians exactly as we pronounce "Easter".
The Babylonian name of this goddess was Astarte, consort of Baal, the sun-god, whose worship
is denounced by the Almighty in the Holy Bible as the most abominable of all pagan idolatry.

Easter "bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte,
one of the titles of Beltis, the 'queen of heaven', whose name, as pronounced by the people
of Nineveh, was evidently identical with that now in common use in this country".

The ancient gods of the pagans had many different names. While this goddess was called
Astarte in Babylon, it appears on Assyrian monuments found by Layard in excavations at
Nineveh as Ishtar (Layard's Nineveh and Babylon, page 629). Both were pronounced "Easter".

Likewise, Beltis, or Bel (referred to in the Old Testament) also was called Moloch. It was
for sacrificing to Moloch (1 Kings 11:1-11, especially verse 7, where Moloch is called
an abomination) and other pagan gods that the Lord condemned Solomon, and rent away
the kingdom of Israel from his son.

In the ancient Chaldean idolatrous sun-worship, Baal was the sun god, Astarte his consort,
or wife. And Astarte is the same as Ishtar, or the English Easter.

Also Jesus observed no Lent. The Apostles and the early true Church of God observed no
Lenten season. The forty days abstinence of Lent was directly borrowed from
the worshippers of the Babylonian goddess.


4TH OF JULY
In short, July 4th is actually the pagan celebration of "Old Midsummer's Eve" which is
based on solar (sun) worship, which we know is really just Satan worship. sun=Satan
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"In the British Isles, Midsummer Eve, the evening before the Christian Feast of
St John the Baptist, was celebrated on 24th of June. Old Midsummer's Eve fell on a later
date (one which Americans will certainly recognize), after the calendar change of 1752. In
the old Julian calendar, June 24th was celebrated as the Summer Solstice and the counterpart
to the December 25th Winter Solstice.

This calendar change has to do with Pope Gregory XIII (1572-1585), who changed the scope of the
Julian calendar. During the sixteenth century, the calendar was ten days slow, as the Romans'
during the reign of Julius Caesar was ten days behind the sun. Under Pope Gregory's orders,
a more accurate calendar was constructed and the Julian calendar was replaced with the Gregorian
calendar. The correction of the drifting of the calendar away from the astronomically fixed
moments of the solstices and equinoxes was the very reason for the Gregorian reform (so that the
date of Easter could be reliably calculated by the Church). Ten days were "skipped" in October of
1582 to realign the calendar correctly with the sun.

However, many non-Catholic countries did not go along with this calendric change for years, so England
did not adopt the modern Gregorian calendar until 1752 (one hundred and seventy years later). With
the old Julian calendar eleven days behind the new Gregorian calendar, it was necessary to drop the
eleven days. In the 1752 reform in Britain, the old Julian calendar was eleven days off, which
required the change made wherein the 11:59 PM September 2, 1752 was followed by 12:00 AM September 14, 1752.

This was how the people of Europe came to celebrate Old Midsummer's Eve on
July 4th (eleven days after June 23). Many people found it hard to accept that eleven
days had just disappeared, so they continued to refer to holidays by the old Julian calendar by
the word "old" before the holiday. The "new" date of July 4th was actually the "old" June 23rd.
As a result, instead of celebrating Midsummer's Eve on June 23th,
many celebrated Old Midsummer's Eve on July 4th."



The world is at enmity to God.
We are to be in the world, not of the world.

1 John 17:16
"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."

1 John 2:15
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Let us not be partakers of the sinful pleasures and idolatrous celebrations of the heathen world but let us
take hold of eternal life through obedience unto God and His commandments.

Aside from the Pagan influences, that one can fine in every moth of the year, do you find fault in Christians wanting to celebrated and be glad for the birth of the one who would be their savior keeping them from the pits of hell? (the later being used loosely)

So they chose Dec. 25. Among all the pagany celebrations.

Dont fault the Christians, and don't fault the date, for if history is correct there would be no proper date for us to rejoice.

As to Easter.... ditto.   

But the 4th of July....????

In the US we celebrate it because On July 4, 1776, the 13 colonies claimed their independence from England, an event which eventually led to the formation of the United States. Each year on the fourth of July, also known as Independence Day, Americans celebrate this historic event.

You have made my point though with your" In short, July 4th is actually the pagan celebration of "Old Midsummer's Eve" which is based on solar (sun) worship, which we know is really just Satan worship. sun=Satan"

Satan, ruler of this world, has tapped pretty much all months and most days for himself.

What we do as Christians has no bearing on Pagan or Satanic things.

It would be far more incumbent on you to accept a given holiday, but then warn the Christian that they must avoid the pagan side of things in their celebrations.






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Really? PROVE it with scriptures, or else you are being over righteous, setting up your own do's and not's.  Maybe sex is a pagan practice after all Jesus was born of a virgin, without sexual intercourse involved. Are you ready to give that up? Or, are you of those that put a limit on what Christians couples can do, or, cannot do in bed? Some self-righteous people do. 

Why do you not just teach and preach what is in the scriptures, and leave such Phariseesical things ALONE? 

I do not practice Christmas and certainly not HALLOWEEN which is from the pits of darkness, or even Easter, not even VALENTINE'S DAY, and neither do I judge others that may do it, for it puts a sense of self-righteousness in folks and allows them to judge others based on WHAT THEY DO or DO NOT~and truly it just does not stop there but on many other things that Christians have the liberty to do, such as drinking in moderation, etc. etc. 

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« Reply #4 on: Wed Apr 29, 2020 - 11:21:55 »
Really? PROVE it with scriptures, or else you are being over righteous, setting up your own do's and not's.  Maybe sex is a pagan practice after all Jesus was born of a virgin, without sexual intercourse involved. Are you ready to give that up? Or, are you of those that put a limit on what Christians couples can do, or, cannot do in bed? Some self-righteous people do. 

Why do you not just teach and preach what is in the scriptures, and leave such Phariseesical things ALONE? 

I do not practice Christmas and certainly not HALLOWEEN which is from the pits of darkness, or even Easter, not even VALENTINE'S DAY, and neither do I judge others that may do it, for it puts a sense of self-righteousness in folks and allows them to judge others based on WHAT THEY DO or DO NOT~and truly it just does not stop there but on many other things that Christians have the liberty to do, such as drinking in moderation, etc. etc.

By observation it would appear BC is a great copy and paster, without the benefit of supporting links.

Ask questions and seems little if any is responded to. Most likely because he cannot support what he believes or
does not have a working knowledge of what he posts. ::tippinghat::


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« Reply #5 on: Wed Apr 29, 2020 - 11:41:25 »
A lot of the info on this post is from www.Jesus-is-savior.com
I dont cite the source because the owner of the website doesnt care if we do or not, also it's not illegal under the fair use purpose of education.

There is a lot of great stuff on that site but I dont site his website because he does have a lot of false doctrines or misinterpretations of scripture that I wouldnt want to be responsible for anyone being lead down a wrong path because I linked to website.

So I am saying it here that there is a lot of good doctrines and teachings on there but also bad, so if you go there be careful and on guard.
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« Reply #6 on: Wed Apr 29, 2020 - 12:31:37 »
A lit of the info on this post is from www.Jesus-is-savior.com
I dont cite the source because the owner of the website doesnt care if we do or not, also it's not illegal under the fair use purpose of education.

There is a lot of great stuff on that site but I dont site his website because he does have a lot of false doctrines or misinterpretations of scripture that I wouldnt want to be responsible for anyone being lead down a wrong path because I linked to website.

So I am saying it here that there is a lot of good doctrines and teachings on there but also bad, so if you go there be careful and on guard.



Guy sure doesn't like Donald Trump, he depicts him as a non-Christian, on the side of the devil, making pacts with the Catholic church toward a one world order, and elected by the Illuminati.

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« Reply #7 on: Wed Apr 29, 2020 - 13:21:20 »
The first article I looked at, I quickly knew that this guy is a self-righteous Pharisees.  Ask him to come here and debate this subject that's on his site: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Alcohol%20Kills/alcohol_kills.htm

That shows just how ignorant he is. Alcohol has NEVER killed the first person NEVER. Using that same irrational argument, then FOOD kills folks worldwide~ many die daily being OBESE~so using this man's irrational and unscriptural position we should do AWAY with food. 

Adultery is a wicked sin so to stop this sin we should do one or two things: Put a chastity belt on all females above the age of ten and under the age of ninety, maybe make it 100!  OR, castrate all males five years and under. Need to figure out how to stop this BASED on www.jesus-is-savior.com Using his irrational and ungodly approach.

Sodomy is a terrible sin so in order to stop this sin, maybe the only way is to do so would be designed and put on chastity Jockeys for males and lock them up when leaving the house.

Bestiality is a most ungodly sin of sins~maybe we should not allow animals as a pet in fear of this wicked sin, or better yet, just destroy them and be done.

Money is the root of all evil~let us come up with another system other than a monetary system~so we can root out evil~Just think, no more bank robbery, stealing, etc.  ::pondering::

Using this man's irrational thinking then Guns kill people, so do away with all guns.

The list is endless and truly has NO ANSWERS using such ungodly rationale

The TRUTH IS guns do not kill; money is a NECESSITY and answers all things; Animals are great to have, and very needful in most all cases. A few confused and disturbed reprobate men do not mean that we should invent a chastity jock for all men.  Women are just as trustworthy as any man that has walked this earth and do not need to wear a chastity belt away from her husband. On and on we go.

The key to living goldy is the FEAR OF GOD and USING TEMPERANCE which IS a fruit of the Spirit of God. ALL THINGS are lawful for a child of God, yet he/she should NEVER be under the control of anything, be it food, drink, etc etc.   
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« Reply #8 on: Wed Apr 29, 2020 - 13:32:05 »
A lit of the info on this post is from www.Jesus-is-savior.com
I dont cite the source because the owner of the website doesnt care if we do or not, also it's not illegal under the fair use purpose of education.

There is a lot of great stuff on that site but I dont site his website because he does have a lot of false doctrines or misinterpretations of scripture that I wouldnt want to be responsible for anyone being lead down a wrong path because I linked to website.

So I am saying it here that there is a lot of good doctrines and teachings on there but also bad, so if you go there be careful and on guard.
So, you most likely mean well, but be careful and test all things with the word of God before embracing the same. Btw, there is NOT a lot of good things there, maybe some, but do not forget, rat poison has 98% corn with two percent poison that would kill any rat eating thereof.  I think in the business world it is called: RISK verse REWARD. If you were sick I gave you a bottle of pills and told you that nine of them would not harm you but help you.... but ONE WOULD KILL YOU, would you take the RISK? A wise man WOULD NOT. A fool in his thoughts is: Yes I would since I have a 90% chance of surviving and being fine.
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I have a good friend that every Christmas And Easter drags out this tired old pagan holiday crap.  No one cares what pagans did or did not do a thousand years ago.  Christmas is now about the birth of Christ.  Easter is about the resurrection of Christ. 4 th July is not a religious holiday and that stuff is offensive to this retired military Christian.

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I have a good friend that every Christmas And Easter drags out this tired old pagan holiday crap.  No one cares what pagans did or did not do a thousand years ago.  Christmas is now about the birth of Christ.  Easter is about the resurrection of Christ. 4 th July is not a religious holiday and that stuff is offensive to this retired military Christian.

Thanks Johnb. Well said.

If we went day by day throughout the calendar we would be hard put to find any day that was not already claimed by pagans or others.

Take Halloween for example.  Celebrated by witches, wicans and Satan worshipers.

Agreed this would not be appropriate for a celebration of our saviors birth or a celebration of thanks for our saviors death.

But then again... neither would Nov 1, viewed by some as "All saints day" for that would be in conflict also with our celebrations of Christ.

Nor would Nov 2, commonly called All souls day by some.

No day would be deemed appropriate because there is no day without something.

I am not a Pagan. ( though some here may view me as such  rofl) and I will celebrate the birth of my Savior and His death on any day I chose to, which happened to be 12-25 and whatever spring day they ( whoever they are) say Easter falls on.

Now... A friendly word for @BlessedCreator

You, sir, have the oddest view of anyone I have ever read on my entire time reading these forums.

You need to learn to apply common sense. That is something you do not do.

Just because we may chose to celebrate Christmas on 12-25 does not mean we are incorporating that into any Pagan doings whatsoever.

As to the Santa end... You are a big boy... I think?... and it would not be aprropriate , under any circimsatne or any day of the year for you to even acknowledge Santa. That is a game for children who have not had the benefit of maturing enough to know why Christians celebrate on this special day.

Good grief man.... as you never answered before I still assume you are single...but can you imagine how you would have
felt had you mom and dad ignored your birth as just another daily occurance?

What a slap in God's face that common man would ignore that wonderful gift he gave to us.

It is appropriate that we celebrate as we do... for our creator and savior and let the world do what they want.




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« Reply #11 on: Thu Apr 30, 2020 - 10:41:55 »
Well, the supreme world dictator, Dr Fauci says we need to give up gatherings and even handshakes indefinitely, so sounds like no holiday gatherings of any kind  - pagan or not.

*However, he says hooking up for sex with randos is fine during the pandemic, though.  ::shrug::

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« Reply #12 on: Thu Apr 30, 2020 - 11:45:29 »
Well, the supreme world dictator, Dr Fauci says we need to give up gatherings and even handshakes indefinitely, so sounds like no holiday gatherings of any kind  - pagan or not.

*However, he says hooking up for sex with randos is fine during the pandemic, though.  ::shrug::

LOL, guess we know what he does at night  ::blushing::

Is hand use ok as long as you dont shake hands or touch your face?

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CHRISTMAS

VALENTINE'S DAY

HALLOWEEN

EASTER

4TH OF JULY
OK - So do you celebrate the holidays of Leviticus 23?

Sabbath?
Passover?
First fruits?
Unleavened bread?
Shavuot/Pentecost?
Feast if Trumpets?
Day of atonement/Yom Kippur?
Feast of Tabernacles?

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I do not. Christians are not under the law or commandments of Moses.

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I do not. Christians are not under the law or commandments of Moses.


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Romans 6:14 KJB
"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."

Colossians 2:16 KJB
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

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Romans 6:14 KJB
"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."

Colossians 2:16 KJB
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

Just wondering, do you see how that second verse might apply to some of the threads you posted here? 

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Just wondering, do you see how that second verse might apply to some of the threads you posted here?
Brother, I thought the same thing yesterday when I saw the two scriptures that he posted. Maybe I can help you because most likely he will not.

First, Romans 6:14 and Colossians 2:16 are scriptures addressing two totally different subjects and truly have "no" direct relationship to each other, other than in a mind of an untaught person (in many cases could even be a child of God) who is a babe in understanding and has taken the SWORD of his Father not yet trained on the proper use of that Sword of the LORD~ thereby, he could hurt himself and more than hurting others, being a young believer, we "all" have been there and done the very same thing.

Secondly, No, these folks just do not see their errors until they begin to grow and learn the word of God~later in their walk with God, reflecting back, they become very ashamed of the way they conducted themselves as a young believer.... some may just keep going deeper into error~spiritual life is much like life in the natural realm of things, some get it, some do not; some destined to success, some destined to failures and hardship; simply because they do not LISTENED to those who are older, wiser, and have gone through the same paths that they are now traveling.

Do you now see why (one among many reasons) God tells us that a novice should not be in a place of teaching and ruling?  When they quote such scriptures as Colossians 2:16 when speaking AGAINST Christians who may do things that they do not do and believes it is SIN to do so.

All false doctrines come from folks not being gifted to teach truth~TRUTH comes over years of learning, seeking, praying, and being filled with the Spirit of God which most young believers are not they like youths naturally are filled with themselves! Speaking from experience.  Selah 
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I do not. Christians are not under the law or commandments of Moses.
Romans 15:4
For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

1 Corinthians 10:11
Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

FYI: the ONLY scripture extant when Paul wrote to Timothy was the OT.

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Really? PROVE it with scriptures, or else you are being over righteous, setting up your own do's and not's.  Maybe sex is a pagan practice after all Jesus was born of a virgin, without sexual intercourse involved. Are you ready to give that up? Or, are you of those that put a limit on what Christians couples can do, or, cannot do in bed? Some self-righteous people do. 

Why do you not just teach and preach what is in the scriptures, and leave such Phariseesical things ALONE? 

I do not practice Christmas and certainly not HALLOWEEN which is from the pits of darkness, or even Easter, not even VALENTINE'S DAY, and neither do I judge others that may do it, for it puts a sense of self-righteousness in folks and allows them to judge others based on WHAT THEY DO or DO NOT~and truly it just does not stop there but on many other things that Christians have the liberty to do, such as drinking in moderation, etc. etc.

I don't think he's trying to be "over righteous", he's just showing what we ALL should be doing...Research. you want him to  Scripturally prove what he's speaking of. MANY says that, but Jehovah God don't ALWAYS point blank a certain topic. also his people, People who followed Jesus, (especially many Bible writers). already knew about Pegan practices, they had NO reasons to write about what they don't believe or follow. they also knew that Jesus wasn't Born on what would be at that time "December 25th." as a "Christian", it's NOT about being "overly righteous", because we CAN'T!

but!... Jesus said this to his followers, (Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me), he set an example for us to follow, (1Pet.2:21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps). Jesus said this also ,(John 17:16-19 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world).

those who claim to follow Jesus, should NOT do as the rest of the world does. because it shows that we actually don't love God as much as we claim we do ,(James 4:4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God).

a "Christian" can't claim friendly association with Jehovah God and Jesus, yet continues to be of the world. we're ONLY fooling ourselves ,(1John 1:6,7 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all).

so trying to follow in Jesus steps, as he commanded, doesn't make one "overly righteous." and spreading the truth doesn't mean one thinks he's better than the next. Jesus taught the truth, and taught his followers to do the same. because there are some who wants it. and because it means our lives! peace



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Re: Pagan Holidays
« Reply #22 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 08:34:50 »
CHRISTMAS
Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church. It was not instituted
by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority. Christmas was not observed by
Christians the first two or three hundred years. It was picked up afterwards from
paganism in the fifth century when the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as
an official "Christian" festival". Scripture does not tell us when Jesus was born but
gives clues that He was not even born in winter.

you did your research, it shows that you're NOT trying to be part of satan's world ,(James 4:4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God). as Jesus said his followers isn't, (John 17:16,17 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth).

I'm sure what you post, will help those who's truly seeking. sadly MANY will come down on you for that, but keep your head up. the ONLY ones you will have to answer to is Jehovah God and Jesus. GOOD WORKS!

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Re: Pagan Holidays
« Reply #23 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 10:10:54 »
a "Christian" can't claim friendly association with Jehovah God and Jesus, yet continues to be of the world. we're ONLY fooling ourselves ,(1John 1:6,7 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all).
jojo50~your Jehovah Witnesses' doctrine puts much emphasis on such minor things, as holidays and many others like practices~which prompt your religion to naturally go after folks like BlessedCreator to convert him to your doctrines only to make him a two-fold more child of hell than what you already are! Matthew 23:15!

I'll give you a few examples by asking you some questions: "Does your religion profess that Jesus Christ was JEHOVAH GOD manifest in human flesh? a simple yes or not is all that is needed." These truths are much more important than being overly concerned about July the 4th celebration being a worldly act to be avoided. Or, judging other believer's HEART if they practice Christmas as a holiday, etc.

Of course, it just does not stop there! Do you worship on Sunday, Saturday, or a particular day? Do you eat meats? Do you believe in birth control? Do you bray your hair? Do you wear only dresses? Do you believe in modern-day witty inventions, like electricity, etc.? Do you avoid certain colors in clothing? Do you believe in going into debt for anything? I could mention a hundred more things that self-righteous Pharisees judge others by.

People like you are TRUSTING in what they do, or not do to earn eternal life thereby!
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but!... Jesus said this to his followers, (Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me), he set an example for us to follow, (1Pet.2:21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps). Jesus said this also ,(John 17:16-19 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world).
We believe this as well, as EVIDENCE that we love God and desire to please ONLY HIM, not some cult, or some false prophet opinions/commandments that we should or should do. 

Following Jesus would be NOT TO JUDGE OUR BRETHREN over trivial things that do not make us GODLY if do or if we do not do! Do you not know that Jesus being God manifest in the flesh KNEW the hearts of all men and could have very easily judged the insincerity of ALL of his disciples and exposed all of their weakness if he was of your mindset and others.  LOVE COVERS ALL SINS and the weakness of other believers even if they do NOT practice what you THINK they should do...ABOVE ALL THINGS in a Christian life LOVE MUST governed all their actions toward all men! 
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Re: Pagan Holidays
« Reply #24 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 10:19:01 »
I don't think he's trying to be "over righteous", he's just showing what we ALL should be doing...Research. you want him to  Scripturally prove what he's speaking of.

Every person here does exactly that. OR I will qualify that statement by saying every one here who has been here for any length of time.

We do our research.... and we PROVE scripturally why we believe what we say bionically. Mans interpretations may not be the same as his brothers, but that is not what we are talking about with this one.
 
This one, BC, either posts comments with out references or even outside opinion links  OR he post s scriptures out of context
and without reference.

Then when asked a question he never replies.

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« Reply #25 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 13:01:35 »
Counter point: Paid days off are awesome.

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« Reply #26 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 17:05:52 »
A lot of the info on this post is from www.Jesus-is-savior.com
I dont cite the source because the owner of the website doesnt care if we do or not, also it's not illegal under the fair use purpose of education.

There is a lot of great stuff on that site but I dont site his website because he does have a lot of false doctrines or misinterpretations of scripture that I wouldnt want to be responsible for anyone being lead down a wrong path because I linked to website.

So I am saying it here that there is a lot of good doctrines and teachings on there but also bad, so if you go there be careful and on guard.

  Most stuff on that site is phony as a $3 bill !

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« Reply #27 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 17:09:38 »
  Remember, Sportzz Fanzz, the gent who started this thread believes the KJVO myth, which is PROVEN false, so it's not unexpected he'd believe other false doctrines as well, as believing one of them keeps a foot in the door for others to come in.

  And the 4th of July isn't mentioned in Scripture whatsoever, under whatever name the Hebrews & Greex used for the month we call July. (After Julius Caesar)

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Re: Pagan Holidays
« Reply #28 on: Wed May 06, 2020 - 22:55:02 »
Not everything is spoken of specifically and directly in scripture. Especially concerning many things we see going on in these end times. Some things you just gotta let God reveal to you what is truth and what is not.

John 16:13 KJB
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

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Re: Pagan Holidays
« Reply #29 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 05:01:30 »
  The 4th of July has not been associated with any pagan rite, & is only observed as a holiday here because it's the anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

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« Reply #30 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 14:17:32 »
The U.S. was founded by corrupt individuals (Satan's agents). Why do you think they decided to sign it on the 4th...

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« Reply #31 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 17:30:47 »
The U.S. was founded by corrupt individuals (Satan's agents). Why do you think they decided to sign it on the 4th...

Well Kenneth.

Why don't you  tell us?

My guess is because you can't.

Learn the facts son:

In fact, independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776.

So,Kenneth.... since you have this all wrong, hurry to your Ouija board and find out what July 2 and Aug 2 connote. ie, what Satanic shenanigans are celebrated then.
Then hurry back and tell us.

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Re: Pagan Holidays
« Reply #32 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 18:44:11 »
Well,Kenneth.....

Why don't you  tell us?

My guess is because you can't.

Learn the facts son:

In fact, independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776.

So,Kenneth.... since you have this all wrong, hurry to your Ouija board and find out what July 2 and Aug 2 connote. ie, what Satanic shenanigans are celebrated then.
Then hurry back and tell us.


Kenneth?

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« Reply #33 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 18:45:38 »

Kenneth?

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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« Reply #34 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 18:46:20 »

 

     
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