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SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET
« on: October 12, 2007, 01:17:00 PM »
SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET

In a recent midweek Bible class in Mt. 10, a discussion about the meaning of “shake the dust off your feet


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Re: SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2007, 08:23:28 AM »
Interesting topic.  Thanks for starting it.   I've always thought it had to do with knowing when to set boundaries and knowing when to give  up.  Now, not giving up on the person but giving up on the idea that I'm the person meant to be helpful to them.  See the difference?

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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 03:22:51 PM »
It is a witness to others that a person, or city, has rejected the message. It was and is still done to signify you reject some idea.

Today, we would say talk to the hand.

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 05:07:18 PM »
It is a witness to others that a person, or city, has rejected the message. It was and is still done to signify you reject some idea.

Today, we would say talk to the hand.

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Re: SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 05:46:48 PM »
*snerk*

So -- would Jesus' reference to this act be tied to culture or not?

In other words, does an American Christian in 2007, whose Bible study with an unbeliever has not come to a satisfactory conclusion,  need to physically whip off his shoes and tap them on the doorstep as he leaves?
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 07:53:32 PM »
He better be careful and not tap his foot if he is sitting in the mens's room.

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Re: SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2007, 08:25:39 PM »
That problem can be avoided by not doing it until you are on your way out the door. ::doh::
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2007, 08:41:41 PM »
*snerk*

So -- would Jesus' reference to this act be tied to culture or not?

In other words, does an American Christian in 2007, whose Bible study with an unbeliever has not come to a satisfactory conclusion,  need to physically whip off his shoes and tap them on the doorstep as he leaves?

No, but when you have tried and tried to help someone, to reach them, to minister to them, and they constantly reject any attempts to improve or to receive what you are offering, it's time to move on.  That is how I take it.

If I have shared the gospel of Jesus Christ with someone and told them of eternity and all He did at calvary for them, and they say to me.. "Leave me alone, I don't want your Jesus or your salvation"... I say to myself... "Okay"... and I move along, I pray the LORD send someone they will receieve from and cause them to be saved. But, I'm not staying there and being verbally abused. I'm shaking the dust off... movin on down the road.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2007, 08:57:03 PM »
Washing of one feet in those days was a practical practice and also one of ceremony. I would guess shaking off the dust to be both also.  Betting here, as Jerry said, it was an insult and strongly meant to be just that.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 09:01:20 PM »
Anybody -- can you think of some bit of modern-day symbology that would be like the old dust-shaking?
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 07:26:17 AM »
good morning.
hope you all had a great weekend.

actually I see this as more of a firm, but gentle, separation, (maybe because I am not God's instrument, for now, for this lost child), but with a unmistakable, serious caution.  It is about when, but, maybe more about how one moves on. (always looking down the road for the return of the prodigal)

I am thinking of Jude's comment, 

17But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." 19These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
 20But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. 21Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

 22Be merciful to those who doubt; 23snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.


This is not just a dress rehearsal.  Life IS a heaven and hell issue.  It is not just one big joke.  And, while I believe in humor's power to persuade, and often cajole with others with ulterior motives, I want my speech to be "seasoned with salt".

A modern parallel?, Janine asks.  I do not know.  Maybe, a refusal to keep up a friendship that is going nowhere spiritually?  I am by nature a non-confrontationalist.  But, sometimes, one must speak up for the good of the other.  Dobson calls it "tough love".  It is called not "enabling" by AA?

I will check back later.  work calls.


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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 08:24:19 AM »
as i understand it, it is what Jesus commanded the disciples to do when a person or city rejected the gospel. It is an act of judgement, not from man, but from God. We are His ambassadors given the authority to speak/act in His name and on His behalf. We are sent to spread the good news of salvation. We are also called sowers of the seed. the seed is the word. Our job is simply to put the seed out there, and as in the parable of the sower, some will fall on good ground but much will fall on bad ground. That is between them and God, after we plant the seed our job is done. We are not to wrap our time around people who reject the word. Now I know this may be hard for family and friends we want to see saved. But I have learned from experience that the more you try to pound the word into someone the greater the rejection of it will be. but if we plant the seed, even if it is rejected we can pray for the person night and day without seizing, until the word takes root. However the reality is some people will never except the truth, for they love the darkness and sin of this world to much, and the seed you planted will actually be used as judgement for them, for those who we shook the dust of our sandals. I also seem to recall that Jesus said to bless the house you entered and give it your peace, and the shaking of the dust would be the opposite of that, it would be cursing (or judging) the house and not granting it peace. Again it is not mans judgement but rather Gods judgement for rejecting his Son.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2007, 10:30:43 AM »
some good comments "kamikaze" (willing to die for faith?!)

some plant, others water, God gives increase.
some dig around and add manure to help fruit come.
eventually, it seems, some will be firewood.

let us pray, preach, patiently persevere.


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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2007, 05:46:14 PM »
It is a witness to others that a person, or city, has rejected the message. It was and is still done to signify you reject some idea.

Today, we would say talk to the hand.

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Hi hand, how's the five finger plan of salvation these days?

Good point, well in some circles you would be missing a thumb and a finger. You keep me smiling Zoo.

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