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« on: October 21, 2009, 03:21:02 AM »

(Mat.7:21) “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven”.

For students to succeed in school, students learn to follow their teachers' instructions, and learn their lessons carefully. But few apply this method when they are dealing with the word of God.

 Is Jesus your Lord?

Then why don’t you do the things he says.

 (Luke 6:46) “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say”?

He told you plainly:

(Ex 20:8-10) (v.8) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. (v.9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: (v.10) “But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God”.

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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 03:22:09 AM »

Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments.

 But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague!

 They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the bible.

Or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family

. Or they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 11:55:08 AM »


Do you keep all of God's law? Below are just a few other than the Ten Commandments. I do trust that you know there is more than the Sabbath.

Romans 13:1. "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." I surely hope you never break the speed limit.

Romans 13:8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:9  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
Did you know that even among Sabbath keepers, some here America have set their own standards and observe it at a different time than someone on the other side of the earth? I wonder which side of the earth is doing it wrong?
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 12:04:10 PM »

Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments.

 But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague!

 They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the bible.

Or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family

. Or they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.

Or they have a much deeper understanding of the bible then you...

Ephesians 2

 14For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, 16and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Jesus abolished his commandments and regulations... to deny it is to deny Jesus work on the cross!

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 02:36:32 PM »

Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments.

 But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague!

 They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the bible.

Or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family

. Or they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.


"As proof that you are children,  God sent the spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!" So you are no longer a slave but a child, and if a child then also an heir, through God.  
At a time when you did not know God, you became slaves to things that by nature are not gods; but now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and destitute elemental powers? Do you want to be slaves to them all over again?
 
You are observing days, months, seasons, and years.
 
I am afraid on your account that perhaps I have labored for you in vain".
(Gal. 4:6-11)

"You are observing days, months, seasons, and years"---what is he referring to?  He is referring to a return to the ritual of LAW.  When one's main emphasis is WHAT DAY is appropriate for one to worship God he is "turning back" to the "elemental powers" rather than embracing the liberty in Christ. The DAY becomes more important than the love and motivation one should have when he comes into the presence of God to worship Him.  Do you think God cares whether it's Saturday or Sunday if someone comes filled with sincere love and praise??  Will he reject worship made on Sunday because it doesn't fit the "DAY" we are LEGALLY supposed to worship him on?    We are at liberty as Christians----we worship God "in Spirit and in Truth".
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 05:17:28 PM »

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Romans 13:8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:9  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
Did you know that even among Sabbath keepers, some here America have set their own standards and observe it at a different time than someone on the other side of the earth? I wonder which side of the earth is doing it wrong?

 No worries

Good points, larry.

Now I know I'm one of those annoying guys who likes to harp on about the teachings of Jesus, so it's probably difficult for people to hear this from me, but Ozell, do you thing satan is happy about church attendance on Sunday, but can't stand the idea of people going to church on Saturday?

I too find it interesting that when Jesus says "obey My teachings (i.e. commandments)", people just naturally seem to think he's only referring to the ten commandments, and the fourth one somehow becomes the most important one of all.

What about Jesus' commandment for us to "go out into all the world and share the gospel...teaching them to obey EVERYTHING (he) I taught you"?

Would that include things like this:

....oh yeah, I've already said it so many times!

Just check the "God or Money?" thread for a better understanding. Tipping hat
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 06:04:37 PM »


Do you keep all of God's law? Below are just a few other than the Ten Commandments. I do trust that you know there is more than the Sabbath.

Romans 13:1. "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." I surely hope you never break the speed limit.

Romans 13:8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:9  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
Did you know that even among Sabbath keepers, some here America have set their own standards and observe it at a different time than someone on the other side of the earth? I wonder which side of the earth is doing it wrong?

Laws do not save anybody.  Let me repeat my self.  LAWS DO NOT SAVE!  However they do show us what sin is.  Knowing what sin is gives us a opportunity to change our ways and be more like Christ.  This should be our ultimate goal. God bless.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 06:22:38 PM »


Do you keep all of God's law? Below are just a few other than the Ten Commandments. I do trust that you know there is more than the Sabbath.

Romans 13:1. "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." I surely hope you never break the speed limit.

Romans 13:8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:9  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
Did you know that even among Sabbath keepers, some here America have set their own standards and observe it at a different time than someone on the other side of the earth? I wonder which side of the earth is doing it wrong?

Laws do not save anybody.  Let me repeat my self.  LAWS DO NOT SAVE!  However they do show us what sin is.  Knowing what sin is gives us a opportunity to change our ways and be more like Christ.  This should be our ultimate goal. God bless.

Amen Brother David. The problem we see when discussing law becomes motive. Do we love God as He loves us, and transfer that love to the brethren? You have been consistant in your understanding as far as I have ever understood you, but many cross purpose and benefit with our standing in Christ as His brethren, and being children of God.

We have and will always be seen in Christ as to our standing, but those very things as works of righteousness God works in us who walk not after the flesh is what fulfills the righteousness of the law. What are the fruits of righteousness? The fruit of the Spirit and that becomes the light of Christ shown to the world in our lives.

I do believe you will soon realize how soon discussing law leads to maintaining our salvation by what we do, thus making following the law our Savior instead of Christ. Christ's death just don't seem to be enough to many. Is there great reward in following Christ? Oh yes.

God bless you.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 07:58:16 PM »

What commanments did Jesus say we should keep?

John 15
 9"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. 11I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 03:00:12 AM »

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Do you keep all of God's law? Below are just a few other than the Ten Commandments. I do trust that you know there is more than the Sabbath.
  YES


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Did you know that even among Sabbath keepers, some here America have set their own standards and observe it at a different time than someone on the other side of the earth?


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I wonder which side of the earth is doing it wrong?

The one who don't keep the seventh day holy is doing it wrong.

Ex 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 03:06:53 AM »


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"You are observing days, months, seasons, and years"---what is he referring to?  He is referring to a return to the ritual of LAW.


is the ritual law the commandments or animal sacrifices? animal sacrifices was a law in Israel you know.

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When one's main emphasis is WHAT DAY is appropriate for one to worship God he is "turning back" to the "elemental powers" rather than embracing the liberty in Christ. The DAY becomes more important than the love and motivation one should have when he comes into the presence of God to worship Him.
 

why did Jesus say Love is
Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. and 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

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Do you think God cares whether it's Saturday or Sunday if someone comes filled with sincere love and praise??  Will he reject worship made on Sunday because it doesn't fit the "DAY" we are LEGALLY supposed to worship him on?    We are at liberty as Christians----we worship God "in Spirit and in Truth".

is it not written

Ezek 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.


as a servant of God and a folloWer of Jesus, Christians are suppose to do as Jesus did, what did Jesus do?

lets read

Lk 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.







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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 03:08:41 AM »

What commanments did Jesus say we should keep?

John 15
 9"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. 11I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

how do we do those things for God and man?

next here is what you are to keep.

Mt 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

do you agree?
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 03:10:24 AM »

Laws do not save anybody.  Let me repeat my self.  LAWS DO NOT SAVE!  However they do show us what sin is.  Knowing what sin is gives us a opportunity to change our ways and be more like Christ.  This should be our ultimate goal. God bless.
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AMEN!!!

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God's laws point out what sin is and sin is what separates us from God.
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2009, 03:13:33 AM »

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Now I know I'm one of those annoying guys who likes to harp on about the teachings of Jesus, so it's probably difficult for people to hear this from me, but Ozell, do you thing satan is happy about church attendance on Sunday, but can't stand the idea of people going to church on Saturday?

what day did the Lord say keep holy and have a holy convocation? the 7th day or the 1st day?

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I too find it interesting that when Jesus says "obey My teachings (i.e. commandments)", people just naturally seem to think he's only referring to the ten commandments, and the fourth one somehow becomes the most important one of all.

is the commandments part of his teaching or did he say them in vain?
 
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What about Jesus' commandment for us to "go out into all the world and share the gospel...teaching them to obey EVERYTHING (he) I taught you"?


everthing includes the commandments correct?
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 03:15:41 AM »

After reading this article you will be without an excuse regarding the Sabbath day of the Lord God of the bible.

(Gen.2:2-5) (v.2) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. (v.3) And God blessed the seventh day, every seventh day of the week is a blessed and holy day. and sanctified it: and it is a day that’s separated (sanctified) for a purpose. because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (v.5) “and there was not a man to till the ground.” That’s right man had not even been created when God made, blessed and sanctified the Sabbath day.

 There was no Jew, there was no Catholic, there was no Baptist, there was no Seventh Day Adventist, and in fact there was not a Christian!
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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