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WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« on: Mon Jul 11, 2022 - 18:56:20 »
 And  why  was   CIRCUMCISION  only  given  to  Israel ?

 Where did it  begin ?

 Has  it  stopped ?

 What  say you ?

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #1 on: Mon Jul 11, 2022 - 19:58:25 »
No it is time what say you I am tired of the questions with no dialog so it is your time to elaborate on your thoughts

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #2 on: Mon Jul 11, 2022 - 22:09:10 »
Thanks for saying what many of us are thinking, Yogi.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #3 on: Mon Jul 11, 2022 - 22:55:05 »
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And  why  was   CIRCUMCISION  only  given  to  Israel ?

 Where did it  begin ?

 Has  it  stopped ?

 What  say you ?

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #4 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 05:52:34 »
dan p:

Questions for you:
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And  why  was   CIRCUMCISION  only  given  to  Israel ?

 Where did it  begin ?

 Has  it  stopped ?

 What  say you ?

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And, why was it only given to the males and not the females?

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #5 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 08:48:02 »
And, why was it only given to the males and not the females?
It was to be a visible sign of the covenant.  There is no part on a female that is that visible. 

Besides, so-called female circumcision is nothing more than mutilation, and kills any and all sexual enjoyment.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #6 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 09:53:12 »
It was to be a visible sign of the covenant.  There is no part on a female that is that visible. 

Besides, so-called female circumcision is nothing more than mutilation, and kills any and all sexual enjoyment.


Visible to who? Did men walk around back then displaying their units?  rofl

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #7 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 10:16:53 »
It was to be a visible sign of the covenant.  There is no part on a female that is that visible. 
Dave, have you ever heard of the term....private part? Used euphemistically to refer to a person's genitals~and for a good reason~they are private, or one of our uncomely parts that God intended for us to keep private, for many good reasons.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #8 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 10:42:48 »
But women's parts are a lot less visible even if everyone is wearing their birthday suit.  Pretty easy to tell the difference in the men folk.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #9 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 12:48:10 »
But women's parts are a lot less visible even if everyone is wearing their birthday suit.  Pretty easy to tell the difference in the men folk.
Mr. Certified Resident Board Genius~you are in danger of losing your position with answers like this one! We are not talking about telling the difference between the two~if we were the women would be noticeably visible as to their gender on the outside~we are speaking about the private parts and circumcision.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #10 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 12:53:54 »
Visible to who? Did men walk around back then displaying their units?  rofl
From what I have read, mens parts were visible from time to time. 

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #11 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 12:56:13 »
Mr. Certified Resident Board Genius~you are in danger of losing your position with answers like this one! We are not talking about telling the difference between the two~if we were the women would be noticeably visible as to their gender on the outside~we are speaking about the private parts and circumcision.
Red I think you missed TC's point.  If a guy is in his birthday suit it is easy to see if he is circ'd or not.  With a woman in the same state of being unclothed, it would not be visible if she were circ'd or not.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #12 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 13:52:51 »
 I  almost did  not  post , about   CIRCOMCISION , as  I needed more  time to  do a  good  discussion .  Looks  like some are  upset ..

 And  some  brought  good  points .

 I  have  been in  services ,where people  have  been  saved and  not  ONCE  did the  Pastor say to a  male , we have  to  CIRCUMCISE YOU ?

 In  Gen 17 : 4  Christ  changes ABRAM  to  ABRAHAM  for  a  father of many  nations have  I  made  thee

 I am  sure that  many  know that  ABRAM  means a  high  father .

 Abraham  means a  Father  of  Many  Nations and  whether you believe this or  not , out  of  ABRAHAM will  come JEWS  and  GENTILES .

Reading  further in  Gen 17  CIRUMCISION  is  required , or you will not  be a  part of  Israel .

I is  amusing , how some will not  says WHAT  does  WOMEN  mean and try to  change  many  of the words I grew up with .

Also I am  sure  many see that  Israel  did not  have  women  Priests  and  Only  that  a  male could  INHERIT and that the  12 tribes  all  male .

So  under ABRAM  is  all  Israel .

Under ABRAHAM , he is  a  father of many  nations .

 I will have  more  later .

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #13 on: Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 18:22:32 »
Mr. Certified Resident Board Genius~you are in danger of losing your position with answers like this one! We are not talking about telling the difference between the two~if we were the women would be noticeably visible as to their gender on the outside~we are speaking about the private parts and circumcision.

Naw.  My point is genius level.   rofl


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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #14 on: Wed Jul 13, 2022 - 02:48:56 »
And, why was it only given to the males and not the females?
That seems rather obvious.  Do we really need to spell this one out?

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #15 on: Wed Jul 13, 2022 - 04:52:52 »
That seems rather obvious.  Do we really need to spell this one out?
Agreed, yet I want Dan to answer this, because of his OP.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #16 on: Wed Jul 13, 2022 - 12:06:10 »
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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #17 on: Thu Jul 14, 2022 - 17:56:11 »
  The  word  CIRCUMCISION  began in  Gen 17:1-14  and  Jesus  was  CIRCUMCISED  in  Luke 2 :21-24 .

And there  there yet  another  kind  of  circumcision , made  without  hands .in  Col  2:11 .

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #18 on: Fri Jul 15, 2022 - 07:26:12 »
  The  word  CIRCUMCISION  began in  Gen 17:1-14
First biblical mention of it; but NOT the beginning of it.  It was practiced in Egypt well before Abraham was born.

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #19 on: Fri Jul 15, 2022 - 09:16:46 »
Okay Dan here is my stance with you. I need more information to get to understand where you are coming from so I will better know how to respond to your postings. Not just in this thread but all threads you frequent.

Are you a born American or are you an emigrant learning the use of English?

Are you a born again Christian or do you follow other beliefs? If you are a born again Christian your line of questioning does not make sense for you should already know the answers to the questions you are asking.

And lastly you really need to expand on your belief so we can better answer you questions,

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #20 on: Fri Jul 15, 2022 - 13:56:03 »
 And  do  speak  another  language and  trying  to  learn  Greek and am  believer in  Christ and I do see some that  make mistakes in their replies also , so  WHAT !

 Always  glad to  answer  any question , that is  asked  of  me as my  parents  were  Catholic , then Pentecostal , then I attended a  Nazarene , and  Church of  Christ , SO , Baptist , and Grace  church .

 Just  lets  go  line by line in  any  question that  you have ?

 It  is  obvious that you , have  NEVER  heard of  DISPENSATIONS  and are  mentioned  in  1  Cor 9:17  , Eph  3:2 and  9  and in Col  1:25  and  also in  1 Tim  1:4 .

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #21 on: Fri Jul 15, 2022 - 20:53:19 »
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It  is  obvious that you , have  NEVER  heard of  DISPENSATIONS  and are  mentioned  in  1  Cor 9:17  , Eph  3:2 and  9  and in Col  1:25  and  also in  1 Tim  1:4 .
  OK lets start right here Yes I have heard of DISPENSATIONS  but have no clue what you are trying to say here please enlighten me what does this have to due with the opening topic

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #22 on: Sat Jul 16, 2022 - 00:10:08 »
A few grammar mistakes would be fine if your point was getting across.  This is not the case.  Your grammar is so bad we can't understand what you're saying half the time.  It's not okay. 

Below, I've shown how I read your post by editing it.  I'm not sure I've understood it all, to be honest.

And I do speak another language and I am trying to learn Greek and I am a believer in Christ. and  I do see some that make mistakes in their replies. also , So  WHAT!

I'm always  glad to answer any question, that is asked of me. as My  parents were Catholic, then Pentecostal, then I attended a Nazarene church, and a Church of Christ , SO (unknown acronym), a Baptist church, and a Grace church (unknown denomination?).

Lets just go line-by-line in and answer any questions that you have?

It is obvious that You , have NEVER heard of DISPENSATIONS. and They are mentioned in 1Cor 9:17, Eph 3:2,and9, and in Col 1:25, and also in 1 Tim 1:4.  (Incomplete thought, what is the point of bringing up dispensations?)

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Re: WHAT DOES CIRCUMCISION only given to Israel ?
« Reply #23 on: Sat Jul 16, 2022 - 13:15:28 »
 The  Grace  Church  that  I  attend is  a  DISPENSATIONAL Church , and the  word  dispensation /  OIKONOMIA  is a  biblical  word that  is  found  in  the bible .

OIKOS  means house .

NOMOS  means  LAW .

 So the  House Laws are  the  Body  of  Christ , 

 #2 we are a  new  creation

 #3 we have  the  indwelling Holy  Spirit

 #4 we have  a  new  apostle ,  Paul

 #5   we  have a  New  Gospel , called the  Uncircumcision  Gal  2:7

 #6 a  new  rule  of  interpretation , 2  Tim 2:15

#7 we have  been  given  a  new  hope in  heaven

 #8 we are  in  Christ

Just  to  mention a  few of what  we have in  Christ .

dan p