Author Topic: What does sanctify mean? (Read 9070 times)

yogi bear · « **on:** November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM »

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
John 17:17-19 (KJV)

What is the definition of the word sanctify?
What does it mean and how is it done?

Just what am I to understand the scripture above to mean?

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **on:** November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM »

Livelysword · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:41:05 PM »

Quote from: yogi bear on November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
John 17:17-19 (KJV)

What is the definition of the word sanctify?
What does it mean and how is it done?

Just what am I to understand the scripture above to mean?

Lively:

G37
ἁγιάζω
hagiazō
Thayer Definition:
1) to render or acknowledge, or to be venerable or hallow
2) to separate from profane things and dedicate to God
2a) consecrate things to God
2b) dedicate people to God
3) to purify
3a) to cleanse externally
3b) to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin
3c) to purify internally by renewing of the soul
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G40
Citing in TDNT: 1:111, 14

G37
ἁγιάζω
hagiazō
hag-ee-ad'-zo
From G40; to make holy, that is, (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate: - hallow, be holy, sanctify.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:41:05 PM »

Charles Sloan · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:59:24 PM »

Quote from: yogi bear on November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM

What is the definition of the word sanctify?

To be made separate.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G37&t=KJV

Quote from: yogi bear on November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM

What does it mean and how is it done?

According to the passages you mentioned it is done by the Lord and through his Word.

Quote from: yogi bear on November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM

Just what am I to understand the scripture above to mean?

I would like to hear what you understand so far.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2009, 02:59:24 PM »

yogi bear · « **Reply #3 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:24:11 PM »

The jury is still out on that one Charles hopefully will get back to you with an answer soon.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #3 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:24:11 PM »

yogi bear · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM »

Please read the following verses and help me to understand by what means God does his sanctifying

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:26 (KJV)

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:5 (KJV)

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:5 (KJV)

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Acts 22:16 (KJV)

Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Heb 10:22 (KJV)

The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:21 (KJV)

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 John 5:6-8 (KJV)

Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Heb 13:12 (KJV)

Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM »

HRoberson · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2009, 09:46:01 PM »

Quote from: yogi bear on November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
John 17:17-19 (KJV)

What is the definition of the word sanctify?
What does it mean and how is it done?

Just what am I to understand the scripture above to mean?

To be sanctified is to be made holy. To be made holy is to be set aside for the work of God. To be set aside for the work of God is to live as God would live - as Jesus did. To live as God would live is to live out of the image in which you were made.

To be sanctified then, is to live as you were made to live with God, working with and as God wills in the Creation.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2009, 09:46:01 PM »

Charles Sloan · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2009, 10:30:18 AM »

Quote from: yogi bear on November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM

Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Yogi,

Where I agree that baptism is apart of the process of sanctification, I cannot place anymore importance on baptism than I do belief or repentance. I don't think justification happens at the point of baptism for many reasons, for example Cornelius and his men were purified by faith and given the Holy Spirit prior to baptism (Act 10:47, Act 15:9). So justification seems to be placed at the point of faith or belief rather than in the response of that belief in baptism (Act 8:36-37).

yogi bear · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2009, 08:51:56 PM »

Charles I think I agree with you somewhat. Here is where I am at so lets take it from where you are compared to me and see where we end up.

This thread seems to be slow at getting going so I have decided to toss out what I am trying to figure out.

I have come to believe that Justification is belief in what Christ has done on the cross. God justifies us by providing a way to redeem us to him. When we come to believe that we are justified to become sanctified. God does this through baptism in which he transforms us from death to alive in his spirit which continues to sanctify us to grow and live in the spirit he has given.

Charles Sloan · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2009, 11:56:38 PM »

Quote from: yogi bear on November 22, 2009, 08:51:56 PM

I have come to believe that Justification is belief in what Christ has done on the cross. God justifies us by providing a way to redeem us to him. When we come to believe that we are justified to become sanctified. God does this through baptism in which he transforms us from death to alive in his spirit which continues to sanctify us to grow and live in the spirit he has given.

So how would this explain Cornelius and gang?

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2009, 11:56:38 PM »

zoonance · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:41:54 PM »

Quote from: Charles Sloan on November 22, 2009, 10:30:18 AM

Quote from: yogi bear on November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Yogi,

Where I agree that baptism is apart of the process of sanctification, I cannot place anymore importance on baptism than I do belief or repentance. I don't think justification happens at the point of baptism for many reasons, for example Cornelius and his men were purified by faith and given the Holy Spirit prior to baptism (Act 10:47, Act 15:9). So justification seems to be placed at the point of faith or belief rather than in the response of that belief in baptism (Act 8:36-37).

a good point concerning the "equality" of repentance, faith, baptism, confession of his name etc. It really isn't as necessary to bust these up into parts. We weren't called to be "parts" but a whole. There is no such thing of a nonrepentant christian, unbelieving christian, unbaptised christian, a christian who would not confess His name, etc. Being a packaged cumulation of "parts" doesn't answer the question to at what exact point in time did salvation occur because that wasn't the question being asked of us.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:41:54 PM »

Rahn · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2009, 08:06:13 PM »

I ask another question. Are there levels of sanctification? I refer to the apostles. I cannot relate to the apostles. They lived lives with a dedication I cannot reach. Do we today truly live as a people set apart for God? If we truly lived up to the standards that were given to them by Jesus what would we experience as the people of God? Would we abandon all forms of entertainment and focus all of our energy on preaching and teaching?

Quote from: yogi bear on November 20, 2009, 09:41:26 PM

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
John 17:17-19 (KJV)

What is the definition of the word sanctify?
What does it mean and how is it done?

Just what am I to understand the scripture above to mean?

Livelysword · « **Reply #11 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:25:15 AM »

Quote from: yogi bear on November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM

Please read the following verses and help me to understand by what means God does his sanctifying

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:26 (KJV)

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:5 (KJV)

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:5 (KJV)

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Acts 22:16 (KJV)

Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Heb 10:22 (KJV)

The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:21 (KJV)

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 John 5:6-8 (KJV)

Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Heb 13:12 (KJV)

Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Lively: I could not agree more... well spoken... +1 manna

Livelysword · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:28:08 AM »

Quote from: Charles Sloan on November 22, 2009, 10:30:18 AM

Quote from: yogi bear on November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Yogi,

Where I agree that baptism is apart of the process of sanctification, I cannot place anymore importance on baptism than I do belief or repentance. I don't think justification happens at the point of baptism for many reasons, for example Cornelius and his men were purified by faith and given the Holy Spirit prior to baptism (Act 10:47, Act 15:9). So justification seems to be placed at the point of faith or belief rather than in the response of that belief in baptism (Act 8:36-37).

Lively: While faith and repentance is part of the commands we need to do to have salvation, it is in baptism where sins are forgiven. That is, before baptism, I have faith, I repent, and I confess Christ... yet, I am still not washed from my sins until I am baptized. It is in baptism my sins are forgiven, and where I put on the righteousness of Jesus Christ... where I am set apart from sinners... sanctified and meet for the master's use.

zoonance · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2009, 05:33:35 PM »

Quote from: Livelysword on November 24, 2009, 01:28:08 AM

Quote from: Charles Sloan on November 22, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: yogi bear on November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Yogi,

Where I agree that baptism is apart of the process of sanctification, I cannot place anymore importance on baptism than I do belief or repentance. I don't think justification happens at the point of baptism for many reasons, for example Cornelius and his men were purified by faith and given the Holy Spirit prior to baptism (Act 10:47, Act 15:9). So justification seems to be placed at the point of faith or belief rather than in the response of that belief in baptism (Act 8:36-37).

Lively: While faith and repentance is part of the commands we need to do to have salvation, it is in baptism where sins are forgiven. That is, before baptism, I have faith, I repent, and I confess Christ... yet, I am still not washed from my sins until I am baptized. It is in baptism my sins are forgiven, and where I put on the righteousness of Jesus Christ... where I am set apart from sinners... sanctified and meet for the master's use.

I agree that the sinful nature can have faith, repent of sins confess the Christ. Some don't but scripture says otherwise. It would sound strange to claim that one can be in a saved state prior to having sins forgiven. or in a saved state prior to having faith, prior to repenting of those sins that have not been formally forgiven or washed away (on the surface then a wasted repentance and wasted faith.) I think there is a reason faith and repentance are spoken of far more often than immersion when considering the eternal state of the unsaved.

HRoberson · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:48:01 PM »

Quote from: Livelysword on November 24, 2009, 01:28:08 AM

Quote from: Charles Sloan on November 22, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: yogi bear on November 21, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Now the way I see it belief gives us the justification to be sanctified which is done in baptism

Yogi,

Where I agree that baptism is apart of the process of sanctification, I cannot place anymore importance on baptism than I do belief or repentance. I don't think justification happens at the point of baptism for many reasons, for example Cornelius and his men were purified by faith and given the Holy Spirit prior to baptism (Act 10:47, Act 15:9). So justification seems to be placed at the point of faith or belief rather than in the response of that belief in baptism (Act 8:36-37).

Lively: While faith and repentance is part of the commands we need to do to have salvation, it is in baptism where sins are forgiven. That is, before baptism, I have faith, I repent, and I confess Christ... yet, I am still not washed from my sins until I am baptized. It is in baptism my sins are forgiven, and where I put on the righteousness of Jesus Christ... where I am set apart from sinners... sanctified and meet for the master's use.

Faith is not a command. It might be requirement for something, but not a command. Faith-by-command isn't faith.

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