Aww c'mon what are you saying now... these people deserve credit for what Jesus did?
the woman caught in adultery was GUILTY as charged what did she do to be forgiven?
The man at the pool 38 years waiting for the water to be stirred starting making excuses Jesus just said PICK UP YOUR MAT AND WALK!
Again he had nothing to do with The Grace shown Him by Jesus
The Centurion wasn't even a Jew and Jesus offered to go to his house...a violation of the Law
What they all had in common is they believed Jesus could do what they believed Him for!
so we have come a long way. You are no longer a predestinarian. You actually believe that man has a choice, that God does not force him to believe. Great. everyone was an act of faith. NOt faith alone however.
Yep ...that means they relied on, depended upon, trusted in, was assured in Jesus not themselves nor their faith JESUS!
but that is precisely what faith is, doing it. It was their faith, Jesus says it was their faith, not His. And it was not because God predestined them to believe. It was a free choice of all of them to believe.
Yet they represent a spiritual truth...themselves they are not the Truth but a representation of a Truth
They are the Truth, not a representation of it. EVery sacrament is salvfic. Everything we do is a sacrament, our very lives are a sacrament to God.
Maybe you should ask yourself if God does the drawing does He draw everyone?
why ask, scripture affirms that God draws all men to Himself. John 12:32, He calls all men to repentance II Pet 3:9, Acts 17:30,
If God does the enabling does He enable everyone?
He enables everyone. No man will be able to say that they did not have a chance to know God and believe. That is why God can be just in His Judgment. Rom 1:18-24.
Is every one chosen or only few?
Every human being was chosen for salvation. Not a single human being will be lost. John 6:39. He gave life to all men, so that man could freely choose whether they would accept his offer of union and communion with Him for an eternity. Rom 5:18, I Cor 15:22.
Is every one appointed or only those who hear?
Everyone hears, but not all will listen. Everyone is appointed to hear. God teaches all men. No man is incapable or does not have the ability to know God.
The answer is He calls everyone, even though He already knows that everyone will not BELIEVE BUT calling everyone makes everyone accountable
You love those contradictions. I think you live by them.
He does in fact call all men. All men freely choose to either believe or not to believe. God knowing has nothing to do with the call, or infringes on man's free will. It is rediculous to say that God calls, even though He knows, (meaning he has predestined some to not hear) so that he can be just. What makes everyone accountable is that man made the choice, not God. God does not need to rationalize his actions, like man does, or actually lie to Himself, so that He does not appear disengenuous.
God does all the work all you can do is respond
so, you think that God loves your neighbor for you, all you need to say is thankyou. God keeps the commandments for you and all you need to say is thankyou.
If you are APPOINTED you will believe
All men have been appointed to believe, whether they will or not is up to that person. God made sure in the way He created us, and Christ recreated us to that man could believe and God works mightily to save all men, but most sadly will not come. All He can do is knock, but you need to open the door.
If you believe it is because Faith come by hearing the Word
If you hear ( understand ) the Word it is because ONLY HIS SHEEP HEAR HIS VOICE
no, one must actually accept that Word, and believe. Simply hearing is no cause for positive action on the part of man. If that were true, then all men would be saved. One needs to believe before He can become a Sheep.
Its all God and none of us ...nothing but our response
Justification, but not salvation through faith.
BUT we only respond because we have been chosen, elected, appointed from the foundations of the world
well, all men were so elected, appointed, and chosen. In fact, scripture says all things were given to Christ, all things in heaven and all things on the earth, nothing has NOT been given to Him. Col 1:15-20. Everything has been reconciled by the Blood of Christ to God.
In John 6:39 it says He will lose nothing that was given to Him, He will raise it in the last day. What could He have possibly missed, could you tell me? Maybe you live in a different world, and are sending us ET transmissions from another gospel.
You and I get none of the glory and none of the credit
I don't think anyone has claimed such.
ALL GLORY TO GOD!
Great, but which God? The one that was revealed to us in scripture, or the one of your imagined interpretation which is contrary to scripture?