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WHO ARE THE SHEEP AND THE GOATS /
« on: Thu Aug 04, 2022 - 15:30:32 »
Matt  25 :14- 30  ,  speaks  of  Israel .

 Verse  31 , reveals Christ  will  doing the  JUDGMENT and  verse  32 , will  divide  the  SHEEP  from  the  GOATS and means that  Israel  has  produced  SHEEP  and  GOATS and this  JUDGEMENT  will  happen  during  the  GREAT TRIBULATION .

 This I  believe  that Israel  Judgement is written  in  verses 14-30  where there  shall  be  WEEPING  and  GNASHING  of  TEETH .

 I  also am  saying  that many  have  taken The  number of  the  BEAST ,  666 .

 Verse  34  is  says  that  Israel  will  INHERIT  THE  kingdom prepared  FROM /  APO  the  foundation of  the  WORLD .

 And  Eph  1:4  that  the  BODY  of  CHRIST  was  chosen  BEFORE / PRO  the  foundation of  the  WORLD  which  is different .

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« Reply #1 on: Thu Aug 04, 2022 - 17:37:34 »
Matt  25:14- 30,  speaks  of  Israel.
Dan, you cannot even begin to support your false doctrine of Matthew 25 speaking of the nation of Israel. Israel after the flesh is not even under consideration, the burden of proof lies at your doorsteps. So, prove it.
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Verse  31, reveals Christ will do the  JUDGMENT and verse  32, will divide the  SHEEP  from the  GOATS and means that  Israel has produced  SHEEP  and  GOATS and this  JUDGEMENT  will happen during the GREAT TRIBULATION.
This judgment takes place at the Great White Throne Judgment where ALL nations will be gathered together.

The great tribulation period takes place during the little season at the end of this world and it is against the SAINTS of the Most High God, not national Israel. I can prove this if you would actually debate this with me, but, that's not your manner of posting.
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I  also am saying that many have taken The number of the BEAST,  666.
You do not take it, you are BORN with it! Would you like to discuss this with me, if yes, then let us do so?
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Verse  34 says that Israel will INHERIT THE kingdom prepared  FROM /  APO  the foundation of the WORLD.
Israel after the Spirit, yes.......Israel after the flesh, NO!
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And  Eph  1:4  that the BODY of CHRIST was chosen  BEFORE / PRO  the foundation of the WORLD which is different.
Dan, you are peddling a false doctrine, and God will judge you for this. There's ONLY one true Israel, and Paul called them THE Israel of God. (Galatians 6)  They are the true children of God's promises~see Romans 9 and believe it!

I have said very little for most of the time you never respond back, all you do is post false doctrines after false doctrines...so why waste my time? 
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« Reply #2 on: Thu Aug 04, 2022 - 20:08:17 »
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There is a brief period of history in the future called the time of Jacob's Trouble, a.k.a. the Tribulation. It will be a time of intense anti Semitism.

At its conclusion, Messiah will return to earth to set up his millennial kingdom, but first he must sift the tribulation's survivors: blessing the ones who helped the Jews and exiling the ones who didn't.
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« Reply #3 on: Fri Aug 05, 2022 - 01:37:37 »
If the blind lead the blind, both will fall in the ditch.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri Aug 05, 2022 - 03:31:31 »
There is a brief period of history in the future called the time of Jacob's Trouble, a.k.a. the Tribulation. It will be a time of intense anti Semitism._
Sir, you must allow the scriptures to tell us "WHO" are the true people of Jacob? It is the very elect, not fleshly Israel.
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Luke 1:31-33~"And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
While I agree the time of Jacob's trouble will be a time of intense anti-CHRISTIAN, or anti-SAINTS trouble~when the beast shall overcome them for a short period of time, which time is happening NOW, when the man of sin has taken over the professing churches throughout this world!
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Daniel 7:25~"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."
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Revelation 13:5-8~"And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
Btw, Christ's kingdom shall have NO END, it is not just for a thousand years, that some false prophets came up with! The saints of the most High, are the true seed of Jacob that shall one day see this scripture fulfilled........
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Daniel 7:27~"And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him."
All of God's people who know the truth said...AMEN, and AMEN to the true sayings of God!
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« Reply #5 on: Fri Aug 05, 2022 - 12:59:06 »
 #1  In  Matt 25  there is  NO  resurrection .

 #2 The people  judged are LIVING  NATIONS .

 #3 The time is the  return  of  Christ .

 #4 The  scene is on  the  earth .

 #5 No  books  are  opened .

 #6 The test is how they TREATED   the n Jews during  the  GREAT  TRIBULATION and  Matt 25:35-46  was  the  TEST .

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« Reply #6 on: Fri Aug 05, 2022 - 18:17:02 »
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The call of God is sort of like the call of the sea; which is essentially inaudible, but easily heard by those who have a longing for the sea within them.
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« Reply #7 on: Fri Aug 05, 2022 - 23:01:30 »
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The call of God is sort of like the call of the sea; which is essentially inaudible, but easily heard by those who have a longing for the sea within them.
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Nice analogy.  ::smile::

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« Reply #8 on: Sat Aug 06, 2022 - 04:10:29 »
#1  In  Matt 25  there is  NO  resurrection.

 #2 The people judged are LIVING  NATIONS.

 #3 The time is the return of Christ.

 #4 The scene is on the earth.

 #5 No books are opened.

 #6 The test is how they TREATED the Jews during the GREAT TRIBULATION and Matt 25:35-46  was the TEST.

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Dan you do not know how to dialogue with any, all you do is make statements that are unsupported by scriptures, which means they are against the testimony of God.  For your information the resurrection (the second coming and the resurrection of the dead are one and the same, just in case you do not know this) occurred earlier in The discourse of Matthew 24 and 25~unlike Revelation 20 where it is mentioned at the last!

At the resurrection on the last day, ALL NATIONS WILL BE LIVING, since there will be a RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, so your point of this is moot.

Also, EARTH will be the battle of Armageddon when Christ returns and the place of the final judgment and the place where the lake of fire will be. So, again, your point is moot.

Oh, sir, the books will be there since Christ is pointing out the deeds of both the righteous and unrighteous, for you to assume there are no books there does not prove your position in the least.  The test is how they treated Christ's people which were NOT the Jews, for they rejected him as a nation. The Jews are not even on Christ's mind in the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24,25. Give proof they are, which you have not even attempted to do.
 
Your whole system is built upon assumption and wishful thinking put into your heart by false prophets.
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« Reply #9 on: Sat Aug 06, 2022 - 11:19:45 »
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I agree with dan p's comments in Reply #5 but I have one question: What are n Jews?
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