Don't you have confidence in the Holy Spirit?.... that is what I am serious about.

I believe the laws are different for every person.. the Holy Spirit will work in an individual on his own time table.

The law is no longer a taskmaster.

Bonnie seems to have hit the nail on the head, (along with "OldMan" and Jimmy on page 3, I think) when she wrote:


Bonnie, I think that is EXACLTLY what "gospel" is teaching (among other things like the prosperity gospel), but unfortunately, he's not alone in these heresies. Yes, heresy is a strong word, and I don't use it so that people will be mean to him, it's just that I think it's very important to note that it was NEVER Jesus who said what many modern preachers have become VERY popular for saying, which amounts to this:  "Jesus died on the cross so that you can do whatever you want and not feel any conviction whatsoever about doing it".

It seems obvious for people seeking truth that these kinds of teachings are the exact opposite of teachings like these from Jesus himself:

"If you love me you will obey my teachings"

"Why do you call me 'lord, lord" and yet refuse to obey me?"

Most people just end up confusing "the law" (which is actually the first 5 books of the bible--the Torah") with everything that Jesus taught.

But I think that this "confusion" is really just a convenient doctrine that was purposely devised by so called scholars and entire institutions of theology.

Just think about some of the things in the Torah or "law" and you will quickly see how Jesus wasn't teaching the same kind of things.

The "law" taught it was ok to kill someone caught in adultery. Did Jesus follow that law or teach it?

And when was the last time you heard of someone tearing their entire house down because it had mold in it? This too was part of the "law". Anyone recall mention of that in the New Testament?

Please "gospel", don't contribute to this "confusion", and don't allow yourself to become one of those who is guilty of "offending one of these little ones".

Knowing the law and scripture as well as the Pharisees did creates the possibility of becoming a religious snob. (Yes it is pride.) "I am better than others because I know Scripture." We will all stand before God in weakness and realize that it is "by grace that we have been saved." There will be many who do not know Scripture very well and cannot quote it who will enter the kingdom of Heaven. They know the One in the Book even though they are not book, chapter, and verse. It is an intense longing for the Father that exists in the heart.  

The answer is in this verse, " You search the scriptures, believing that in them you will find life, but you will not come to be so that I can give you eternal life". And for that same reason today, if Jesus came, He would have the same problem with Christians. They wont know Him because He would not fit into the image the have formed of Him. You see, you all read the bible. thinking it has all the answers, in that it will bring you life, but it does not, it tells you of Jesus, and He constantly in his words, calls you to Himself, yet you wont go to Jesus so that He can give you that life.

In HIs Love

They were sinners John was speaking to and he said:

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

But, we know the Scriptures cannot give life only Jesus can. They help us after we are saved and learn us many things.

Actually Bonnie, He was talking to the Pharriesees at the time ..

Yes, He was. The Pharisees great sin was that they didn't love God and only worshipped him with their lips.