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WHY DOES HEB 11:4 BEGIN WITH ABEL , HAD FAITH ?
« on: Mon Sep 16, 2019 - 18:12:43 »
Hi to all and Heb 11:4  begins By  faith Abel offered unto God a more  excellent  sacrifice than  Cain ?

#1  Why is  Abel mentioned   FIRST  instead of  Adam ??

 #2 , Did  Adam  not have  Faith ?

 #3  Was  Adam saved ?

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Re: WHY DOES HEB 11:4 BEGIN WITH ABEL , HAD FAITH ?
« Reply #2 on: Mon Sep 16, 2019 - 18:32:46 »
  Hi and I did double checked and I must have missed it ,  SORRY  !!

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Re: WHY DOES HEB 11:4 BEGIN WITH ABEL , HAD FAITH ?
« Reply #3 on: Mon Sep 16, 2019 - 18:34:47 »
  Hi and I did double checked and I must have missed it ,  SORRY  !!

 dan p

No prob. I recognized it as soon as you put it up.

Maybe you'll get different viewpoints this time around. ::smile::

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Re: WHY DOES HEB 11:4 BEGIN WITH ABEL , HAD FAITH ?
« Reply #4 on: Tue Sep 17, 2019 - 12:55:15 »
  Hi  and when Christ came to talk to  Adam , they had  FIG  LEAVES  on and that is what people do to cover  up ,  there sin  when they  BECOME  sinners !!

They are still doing it TODAY   but God knows our  hearts and  we  never can never fool Him !!

I do not know if I then wrote  WHY  CAIN  was also not in the  FAITH  CHAPTER  ?

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Re: WHY DOES HEB 11:4 BEGIN WITH ABEL , HAD FAITH ?
« Reply #5 on: Wed Sep 18, 2019 - 10:14:21 »
Why is Abel listed at all?  He has no notable achievements in the OT.  He isn't a central figure.  He has no notable descendants.  He offers a single sacrifice, gets murdered, and his story is over.

Why did he get included beside Abraham and Moses in Hebrews?

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« Reply #6 on: Wed Sep 18, 2019 - 13:27:13 »
  Hi  and Heb said  Abel had  FAITH and brought the  PROPER  SACRIFICE  , a  blood  sacrifice which a first time  ATONEMENT  is  seen !!

 And shows that  Cain is like the world , where it always bring  it's  WORKS  !!

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« Reply #7 on: Sat Feb 22, 2020 - 17:07:54 »
Hi and we also see that Heb 11:4  does not mention Adam , because Adam walked   with  Christ in the  garden and so , Adam walked by  sight !

 Gen 3:21  shows that  Adam and  Eve  had  faith as Heb 3:21 , Christ , clothed them with the  skins of  animals and was the first   BLOOD  sacrifice and that means that Adam and  Eve  had  faith and were  saved  by what is called  ATONEMENT !

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