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Yom Kippur Caution
« on: Sat Sep 11, 2021 - 14:54:21 »

To everyone who has Jewish friends: do NOT wish for them a pleasant holiday for Yom Kippur because Lev 16:29-31, Lev 16:31, Lev 23:27, and Lev 23:32 doesn't allow them to be cheerful and/or feel good about themselves on that day. It's actually a day to despise one's self, i.e. regard one's self as loathsome and despicable, viz: a day to afflict oneself; which Webster's defines as causing distress so severely as to cause persistent suffering and/or anguish.

It is both illegal and curse-worthy for Jews to be joyous at any time on the day of Yom Kippur.

Lev 23:29 . . For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people

Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this law by carrying them out.


NOTE: Yom Kippur is an unusual holy day. It's primary purpose is not only to remind the people that they are unsavory in God's sight, but also to remind them that their sins are still on the books, pending justice; and hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles.
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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #1 on: Sun Sep 12, 2021 - 11:36:37 »

FAQ: Isn't Judaism equally as useful as Christianity for sinners seeking God's forgiveness? Isn't that the whole purpose of Yom Kippur, a.k.a. the Day of Atonement?

A: Pinning one's hopes on the Day Of Atonement is futile. For one thing: there's no one to perform the ritual seeing as how there is neither a Temple nor a fully functioning Levitical priesthood on duty in Jerusalem at this time. In point of fact, neither of those two essential elements of the Day of Atonement have been in Jerusalem since 70 AD. But that's not the worst of it.

There is a special goat involved in Yom Kippur commonly called a scapegoat, which Webster's defines as a person who is unfairly blamed for something that others have done; in other words: a fall guy. But that does not quite accurately define Yom Kippur's special goat. It's actually an escaping goat; viz: a fugitive; here's why.

It's a biblical axiom that the soul that sins, it shall die, i.e. the wages of sin is death (Ezek 18:20, Rom 6:23). Well; the special goat is allowed to live rather than executed, so justice for the worshippers' sins remain pending.


FAQ: What about the other animal? Doesn't its death satisfy justice for the people?

A: The second animal's purpose is strictly hygiene, viz: it sanitizes the people sufficiently for worship purposes; but does nothing towards obtaining absolution for them.

NOTE: Leaving a goat out in a wilderness place to fend for itself isn't a death sentence. No; far from it. Goats are survivors. They can get by in environments that quite a few other species would find quite disagreeable. And though the Jews were in a wilderness place during their wanderings, there was vegetation enough to nourish the herds. (Ex 34:3)
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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #2 on: Sat Sep 18, 2021 - 13:12:48 »
The word translated 'scapegoat' is Azazel.  Some scholars believe this refers to a kind of wilderness spirit.  One goat was sacrificed to the LORD, and the other went goes off to Azazel, taking the sin away from the camp.

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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #3 on: Sat Sep 18, 2021 - 21:58:34 »

The Hebrew word translated "scapegoat" in the 16th chapter of Leviticus is `aza'zel (az-aw-zale') which is a compound word.

One part is derived from `ez (aze) which refers to a she-goat and/or goat's hair.

The remainder is derived from 'azal (aw-zal') which basically means to go away, i.e. to disappear.

In other words an `aza'zel is the loosed goat itself rather than some sort of mystical spirit being. It's a cute legend, but nevertheless, a fantasy.
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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #4 on: Mon Sep 20, 2021 - 06:28:19 »
The Hebrew word translated "scapegoat" in the 16th chapter of Leviticus is `aza'zel (az-aw-zale') which is a compound word.

One part is derived from `ez (aze) which refers to a she-goat and/or goat's hair.

The remainder is derived from 'azal (aw-zal') which basically means to go away, i.e. to disappear.

In other words an `aza'zel is the loosed goat itself rather than some sort of mystical spirit being. It's a cute legend, but nevertheless, a fantasy.
And yet, the Jews did not treat it as a fantasy, but as the name of a demon.

But I'm sure you know Hebrew better than the Hebrews... not.

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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #5 on: Mon Sep 20, 2021 - 09:09:07 »

To everyone who has Jewish friends: do NOT wish for them a pleasant holiday for Yom Kippur because Lev 16:29-31, Lev 16:31, Lev 23:27, and Lev 23:32 doesn't allow them to be cheerful and/or feel good about themselves on that day. It's actually a day to despise one's self, i.e. regard one's self as loathsome and despicable, viz: a day to afflict oneself; which Webster's defines as causing distress so severely as to cause persistent suffering and/or anguish.

It is both illegal and curse-worthy for Jews to be joyous at any time on the day of Yom Kippur.

Lev 23:29 . . For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people

Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this law by carrying them out.


NOTE: Yom Kippur is an unusual holy day. It's primary purpose is not only to remind the people that they are unsavory in God's sight, but also to remind them that their sins are still on the books, pending justice; and hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles.
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This is quite true, provisionally.

Yom Kippur is the second of < 3 > holidays observed in Judaism.  Altogether the three holidays are called THE HIGH HOLY DAYS or the Days of Awe.

The first holy day is Rosch Hashanah.  This day begins the season of REPENTANCE.  During this time one is called to examine one's self for SINs and wickedness. It's also the beginning of a new Jewish calendar year.

The only parallel or equal to the Jewish season of Repentance in Christianity is Lent.

The second holy day is Yom Kippur during which ATONEMENT is observed.  This is the highest holy day of Judaism during which hour many secular Jews attend synagogue when they might not otherwise do so. 

A parallel behavior on the part of secular Christians is Easter, when secular Christians perform their annual visit to church so as to get their passports to heaven stamped by God because they were so devout at that hour.   On both of these occasions synagogues and churches are packed with people.

The third or concluding day is Sukkot during which the names of the devout are sealed in God's book of life.  This day is celebrated with food and imbibing alcoholic beverages.  If good wishes are to be shared with the Jewish community, this is the time to do it.

Christians observe Pentecost as the sanctification of believers.

It should be noted here that there are many variations of specific Jewish tradition regarding the Days of Awe / High Holy Days.  What I've written here is a very narrow examination of each.  It is said that one may take as much or as little from Jewish tradition as one likes.   Is it not the same with Christianity?

It is said that Jewish tradition won't save anyone.  Will Christian traditions such as Santa Clause, the Easter bunny, garden statues of the Virgin Mary and Halloween spooks witches and goblins save anyone?  Christians can be as blind to spiritual reality as their Jewish brethren.  Very sad.

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« Reply #6 on: Mon Sep 20, 2021 - 09:22:32 »

The Hebrew word translated "scapegoat" in the 16th chapter of Leviticus is `aza'zel (az-aw-zale') which is a compound word.

One part is derived from `ez (aze) which refers to a she-goat and/or goat's hair.

The remainder is derived from 'azal (aw-zal') which basically means to go away, i.e. to disappear.

In other words an `aza'zel is the loosed goat itself rather than some sort of mystical spirit being. It's a cute legend, but nevertheless, a fantasy.
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The scape goat doesn't disappear.

It was released into the wilderness to fend for itself.  Assuming there was neither food nor water to sustain life, the animal's fate was thus determined by destiny - or the hand of God instead of the hand of man. 

As part of the LAW of redemption the tradition isn't a fantasy.  According to the book of Hebrews, written millennia later, it was the imperfect part of God's LAW that Christ fulfilled and made perfect.

How did Christ make the LAW perfect?

According to the LAW of Moses, God's forgiveness was temporary (imperfect).  It was temporary and imperfect because the blood of animals was required to obtain it.  But those animals, however devoid of blemish they might have been, were still mortal.  Their blood, their life, their payment for SIN was temporary because of their mortal nature.  Thus was the sacrifice temporary and needed to be repeated often.  It wasn't a fantasy.  It was simply temporary.

The blood of Christ is perfect because His blood, His life, IS permanent immortal eternal.  Therefore the sacrifice of Christ upon the cross fulfills the LAW because it is perfect.  It only needed to be done once - for all time - eternally as is His life/blood.

When the book of Hebrews tells us the LAW is becoming obsolete (8:13) it was obviously written during the period when the temple still stood - before Roman armies destroyed it.  Animal sacrifices were still being performed until they were taken away.  This does two things for us.  First is that it clarifies what is written about the efficacy of Christ's sacrifice and the obsolescence of animal sacrifice. Second is that it affirms that scripture of the New Testament was written DURING THE GENERATION that saw Christ walk upon the earth. 

This is no fantasy.   The redemption of man is based upon it.

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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #7 on: Mon Sep 20, 2021 - 10:56:28 »
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And yet, the Jews did not treat it as a fantasy, but as the name of a demon.

Judaism's habits, customs, beliefs, and traditions are one thing, whereas the laws of the convent that Moses' people agreed upon with God are quite another.
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Re: Yom Kippur Caution
« Reply #8 on: Tue Sep 28, 2021 - 03:53:50 »
Judaism's habits, customs, beliefs, and traditions are one thing, whereas the laws of the convent that Moses' people agreed upon with God are quite another.
I actually agree with that.  There is a difference between history and prophecy.  Historical books record the words of men; prophetic books the words of God.

We can put every book of the Old Testament into one category or the other.  Leviticus clearly belongs in the former category.

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