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Offline david johnson

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« on: Thu Feb 27, 2003 - 10:49:16 »
jarschqua:

i don't know why the corinthians dabbled in this.  they experimented in many ways, to the consternation of paul.
2/maccabees 12:44-45 mentions commander judas prayed after battle for his dead troops and made atonement for their sin.
hang on to that title 'zombie baptism'.  i sense a teriffic grade-b screamer approaching.  lurching, half-dead ministers - screaming honies running from lusty altar boys - ominous invitations - dark, dank, cold baptistries filled with mysterious fluid - hey...i know where that place is! :0

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« Reply #1 on: Fri Feb 28, 2003 - 23:53:43 »
Here's your unofficial board research librarian ( :wave: to Kari/kmv) with a link. What do you scholars among us think?
http://www.carm.org/questions/baptismfordead.htm

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« Reply #2 on: Sat Mar 01, 2003 - 13:07:16 »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I always assumed they were doing it the Mormon way... getting baptized so that by proxy, the targeted deadnik would be granted slavation.[/quote]
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« Reply #3 on: Thu Feb 27, 2003 - 10:08:03 »
1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

1 Corinthians 15:27
For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, \"All things are put in subjection,\" it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.

1 Corinthians 15:28
When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

1 Corinthians 15:29
Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?

1 Corinthians 15:30
Why are we also in danger every hour?

1 Corinthians 15:31
I affirm, brethren, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

1 Corinthians 15:32
If from human motives I fought with wild beasts at Ephesus, what does it profit me? If the dead are not raised, LET US EAT AND DRINK, FOR TOMORROW WE DIE.

1 Corinthians 15:33
Do not be deceived: \"Bad company corrupts good morals.\"

1 Corinthians 15:34
Become sober-minded as you ought, and stop sinning; for some have no knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

1 Corinthians 15:35
But someone will say, \"How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?\"

1 Corinthians 15:36
You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies;

1 Corinthians 15:37
and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else.

1 Corinthians 15:38
But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own.

1 Corinthians 15:39
All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish.

1 Corinthians 15:40
There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another.



i tried to give plenty of context to this... what do you think this baptism for the dead business is all about?

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« Reply #4 on: Thu Feb 27, 2003 - 11:12:49 »
I always assumed they were doing it the Mormon way... getting baptized so that by proxy, the targeted deadnik would be granted slavation.

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« Reply #5 on: Sat Mar 01, 2003 - 00:41:15 »
Not that I'm a scholar by any stretch, but this passage has always intrigued me.  Paul always liked to use questions, especially rhetorical questions.  \"Shall we go on sinning...\" etc.
Sometimes he left the question hanging, sometimes he came right back with an answer.  \"No!\"  

Anyway, he doesn't give the follow-up answer here and one day I goofing on my ex-girlfriend (hardcore conservative cofC) and I had her all confused by reading all Paul's questions and I said, \"every one of them that's sarcastic is followed up by an answer.  Otherwise, he doesn't give a follow-up.  So what's that say about baptizing for the dead?  Are the Mormon's right?\"

She wasn't a happy camper that day, I assure you.  (But then again, she never was very happy at that.)

Actually, I do know where the answer to this question can be found--in Paul's letter to the church at Laodacea (sp?)! :p  And wherever Melchizedeck came from, that's where the letter is!! :D

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