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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2009, 10:52:34 PM »
"Fun" and "escapism" is very important, it stimulates the brain that counteract the "flight/fight" stress hormones--and stress hormones can actually become a chemical addiction!

It always blows my mind when some modern study finally figures out that some of the functions challenged by videogames are actually ones that you use in real life, such as a recent experiment that showed that gaming surgeons had better control than others'.
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2009, 08:09:42 PM »
If it feels wrong:
it is
If you are playing these games to get rid of anger problems:
1. Get help.
2. find another way
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Remeber:
the devil wants to:
steal, KILL and DESTROY
dont copy the devil

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2009, 01:22:43 AM »
If it feels wrong:
it is
If you are playing these games to get rid of anger problems:
1. Get help.
2. find another way
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Remeber:
the devil wants to:
steal, KILL and DESTROY
dont copy the devil

But WHEN did the devil save the world from ALIENS?  ::cool:: Or from nuclear destruction, or terrorists? Or fight in WWII?
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2009, 05:41:11 PM »
"But WHEN did the devil save the world from ALIENS?   Or from nuclear destruction, or terrorists? Or fight in WWII?"
can you rephrase that
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2009, 11:33:52 AM »
Killing?  It is just a bunch of pixelized images on a screen.
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #80 on: August 24, 2009, 12:21:09 PM »
How can you kill something that is not alive to begin with?

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2009, 09:08:25 PM »
How can you kill something that is not alive to begin with?

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2009, 10:51:16 PM »
One of my friends recently said to me the reason 'why I like GTA so much is because you can do things on there that you cant do in real life'.
So does that mean if a satanic game came out and you played it does that mean its right even though its not actually real?
Your praticing stuff that is evil either way-so in my opinion thats a sin
Would God want to watch you kill people just for fun even if they are fake?

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #83 on: August 25, 2009, 03:30:45 AM »
One of my friends recently said to me the reason 'why I like GTA so much is because you can do things on there that you cant do in real life'.
So does that mean if a satanic game came out and you played it does that mean its right even though its not actually real?
Your praticing stuff that is evil either way-so in my opinion thats a sin
Would God want to watch you kill people just for fun even if they are fake?

Yeah, I also hate that attitude. Self-indulgent violence is not good, no matter what. I even have some trouble with some Spielburg flicks for portraying a weird "fun death." No matter where it's depicted, I take it seriously and I always hate that "but it's pretend" line.

Gaming has had ambitions like "realism," and as an artform (yes, "artform") it's rather young and experimental. The appeal of GTA in general, I think, is simply the exaggeration of one's effect on the world. They did it in the negative sense and I'd rather one would be ambitious about, say, a single guy dragging his world into something good but equally explosive--slightly different context. Actually there are a lot of games like that (one severely underrated gem is coming to mind right away . . .) GTA also struck a perfect balance between direction and player freedom, and it feels like "earned progress" even while it's forgiving.

Anyway, solid game concept, lousy context.  ::shrug:: Very sad. Ironically I think it's possible for gangter films to have a moral base as long as they make it clear that "this is a bad thing" in the story context, which GTA actually does also to an extent--I mean that sort of thing is even found in the Bible, although I don't want to "be" one of those guys.

Anyway, my general answer remains that most games with violence are not for violence's sake. Or at least they didn't used to be.
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #84 on: August 26, 2009, 05:46:16 PM »
Whether or not it is wrong or a sin, is it actually beneficial for us spiritually tor emotionally to play such games? I would say no, it isnt beneficial.
God told my son recenly to sell his x box. he didnt even play violent games like this but it was because he spent too  much time on it. However it gives an indication about what God thinks about computer games.

Friend, David Berkowitz, the "Son Of Sam" killer told cops that God spoke thru his dog and told him to kill people.  That does not show what God thought of people.  I dare say that "what God thinks about computer games" would better be translated as "what Daddy thinks of video games..."

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #85 on: August 26, 2009, 05:47:53 PM »
I can't help but think that people with serious anger issues shouldn't play these games.  Fantasy can become reality.  Scary...

Agreed.
They have done experiments on young children who played 'fighting' computer games or watched fairly violent things on televsion, (obviously not too violent for their age), and without exception they all became more violent in their games afterwards than they were before.I cant understand why people keep saying that we arent affected by what we do or watch, its obvious that we are, even if we are relatively well balanced normally.We are seeing these things with our eyes and hearing them with our ears, and therefore they are going into our souls and affecting our spirits.Why do you thnk that children get nightmares after watching violent films or programmes? I am sure that some wil get them after playing some video games also.

I have played vidoe games for 32 years now.  Never had one nightmare about them.  Never had an urge to kill either.

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2009, 10:21:28 AM »
I'm almost sure someone else said this before me, but I had little time to read through the previous six pages of replies, but I'll say this anyways.

Personally, I think alot of things rest on circumstancial areas of things. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - I played it, and the first mission, you have to KILL the pizza delivery boy bcz you're trying to prevent him from spilling some beans on some deal that was crooked to begin with. When I did it, I kinda felt sedistic. I was getting money and I had spent quite a while trying to find my first objective, and when I finally did, I felt really accomplished. I'd never played a game like that before, but it just stirred something that I never knew was there, nor did I want to know that it was there.

On the other hand, I picked up Max Payne. The first one. This is a story of a man who walks into his house after an ordinary day at work as an on-the-field cop/detective, and his house is broken into, and his wife and baby girl are killed in cold blood in his very presence. When you play the game yourself, it is a VERY scary and horrible experience, as it should be. My heart actually sank pretty low. Granted, the man had been pushed over a certain edge, numbing him to the idea of killing a TON of men on his quest for justice and vengeance, and exaggeration seems to have become an art/necessity for video games, but I think the circumstancial area of a game is what the player remembers. In other words, "WHY" do I need to "kill" these people in this game? What's the motive?

Circumstance is what justifies the action. God's reasons for telling Israel to smite entire tribes was certainly justifiable. Capital punishment is justifiable. Flat out murder or genocide for personal gain is NOT justifiable, obviously. I felt actually kind of good killing those men who slaughtered my "wife and only child" in Max Payne. If thugs came into my house and did that...I'm not exactly sure what I might do. I could see myself taking them down if I could, but whether I would actually kill them or not, that would depend on how impulsive I would be.

When I say it's completely circumstancial, I'm not talking saying it only matters to the character in the game. It obviously matters how it reflects on the player above anything. Circumstance is how the player relates. Is there anything there that's justifiable to cause these thought processes to line up with what God wants or calls for, IF this circumstance were true and happening? That's the question people should be asking.

A ruthless faction comes in and invades your territory/country without qualm or querry and wants to conquer? ..Sure. Kill 'em. Psychotic/deranged serial killer? Without question. Knocking someone off regardless of motive or reason, just to put a huge lump sum in your pocket? ..Um..WRONG. Going postal to rack up score just to see how much you can kill/destroy within a certain time frame. WRONG. The game Postal disgusts me.

You get the idea.
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2010, 06:46:17 AM »
Personally I would say  its not a sin unless your doing it for hatred towards someone. I personally only play on occasion but just for the story, rpg, etc, of the games. I don't play cause of the violence. Its all fake and its not real so I would say NO its no a sin. The only games I would not recommend are demonic ones like silent hill, resident evil, doom, etc.

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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #88 on: January 05, 2010, 07:42:44 AM »
DOOM..I certainly don't mind KILLING demons. As long as I don't become one, I'm completely fine with the game.
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Re: Is Killing in a video game a sin?
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2010, 03:29:47 PM »
Outside of the fact that the object in the game is something that you eliminate by "killing" it, it's really no different than any other game that teaches the same thing. Chess, Pacman, checkers, bowling. It's just a game. Some of the newer 3d graphics games get a little morbid. Some of the philosophy behind the plot in the games teaches some bad ideas about right and wrong. But as far as the "killing" goes, I don't see it as a sin. It's not about real feelings that deal with real people. It's just a game of eliminating objects. But I do think some of the philosophy behind the game plots needs to be cleaned up some.
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