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America is dieting itself into obesity!
« on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 07:47:41 »
My guess is that Americans probably diet more than any other nation in history. Several social economic reasons for this that I'll skip over to cut through the chase. Even our pets are on 'diet food' for crying out loud!

The classic diet demands a cutting of calories. This is often advised by an increase in activity. Now the body is prepared for a double whammy in calorie deficit. If you are like most people, a lower number on the scale means success because after all, the idea is to loose weight, right?

Only many folks really have obscure ideas as to the composition of the weight they are losing. Is it fat, water, muscle? How much of each is being sacrificed?

Dear friends, keep in mind that God designed our bodies to kick in an overdrive system that works quite well in times of need. It called SURVIVAL. When this system is called upon, your metabolism slams on the breaks. Why? To keep YOU alive!

When the body perceives restriction on nutrients, i.e. diet this is exactly what happens. Take for example a 2500Kcal daily person needs to loose 15 pounds. Well, they begin a daily 2000kcal 'diet' plus maybe an extra minus 300 for exercise added. This fellow finds themselves losing weight. Lots of weight intially because the first thing to go is excess water. This is due to the reduction of glycogen in the muscles (bad) to to a lower carbohydrate intake. Glycogen is very water friendly folks. Again, God had our best interest in mind when he created us. The next most likely weight to be lost is muscle. Why? Because your body knows that this is the most  metabolically active tissue, and your body is naturally going to try to slow the metabolism down. This is one of its efforts. Remember, your body does not know if you are lost in the desert, or home 'dieting', and sweatin' to the oldies with Richard Simmons. Fat loss is the last component your body looks to lose when dieting.

After several weeks go by we have the typical weight loss diet results. With enough will power our subject has lost his 15 pounds. 15 pounds of what remains undetermined to our unsuspecting subject at hand, but nonetheless the pants size is smaller.

Usually when people diet they get great results the first couple of weeks then they see things change. Sometimes even gain a pound or two. Answer? You betcha! Diet even more. Restrict the calories to the point where progress will resume. Now our subject who went from 2500kcal a day to 1700kcal a day is around 1200kcal a day to pick up the rewards of weight loss noted earlier in the scheme. Guess what? Progress resumes! But is it really progress? The scale says so.

Now the subject reaches his goal. however, his body is used to 1200kcal's a day. Not only that, but several positive metabolic factors have been  sabotaged.

So he is left with a choice to keep the weight off. Remain at the 1200kcal restriction and eat like a bird the rest of his life or resume a sensable calorie intake (2000-2500kcal's). I submit to you the majority choose the later. After all this is America. Home of the free, the brave, and let's not forget...FAT! Only one problem. The metabolism will be significantly lower before he had even began the diet. Which means, you guessed it sports fans -   weight gain plus a little extra. Dissapointment reigns supreme once the weight is back on plus a little extra, but no fear. You can always go on another DIET.

Stay tuned for solutions.

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« Reply #1 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 09:23:21 »
All things in moderation ("moderation" being the key word here) is my personal solution.  Daily prayer helps one stay focused on Him and not on food -- and really, when we diet all the time, our focus is on food.  It's an addiction really.  So, my advice is to allow God to moderate thyself.  Pure and simple.  :-)

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« Reply #2 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 10:23:15 »
Good advice, Kalen!  I find it hard to follow it consistently, but, very good advice! ::tippinghat::

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #3 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 10:24:36 »
I am on the coca-cola diet.  Its great! 

What you do is drink coca-cola and take vitamins.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #4 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 13:21:19 »
I think I'll go to Dickie's Barbeque.  It is calling my name.  It's a good thing to know I don't have to diet.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #5 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 14:28:38 »
America's problem with obesity has to do, mainly, with one thing: soda (aka "pop", aka "coke", aka "cola").

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #6 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 14:35:20 »
America's problem with obesity has to do, mainly, with one thing: soda (aka "pop", aka "coke", aka "cola").

I said I was on a coca-cola diet to get the ol' Reverend going.  I do disagree that America's problem with obesity has to do mainly with pop.  I think it mainly has to do with laziness.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #7 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 15:57:53 »
Coke and Laziness ... a dangerous combination.

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« Reply #8 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 17:56:17 »
Is that medicinal Coke?

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #9 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 18:34:15 »
Actually you are both right. Coke and laziness contribute greatly to the problem.

Childhood obesity is way up. Too many parents allowing their kids to soak up high fructose corn syrup type drinks. Kids are way too sedentary today as well.

The ones with the worst weight problems practice bad habits at the very early ages.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #10 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 19:03:33 »
When I was a little boy, I was outside building forts.

I think little boys right now, probably have SimFort 2000 on their PS2.

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« Reply #11 on: Sat Jul 01, 2006 - 19:57:39 »
I have heard that fructose corn syrup has some major negatives to a healthy diet, more significant than other "sugars".

As I remember it acutally causes cravings.  I will have to look it up.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #12 on: Sun Jul 02, 2006 - 07:09:16 »
Type 2 diabetes was once a middle age problem. We are seeing it in pre-teens now.

Situation is just out of control.

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« Reply #13 on: Sun Jul 02, 2006 - 17:37:55 »
When I was on vacation in New Mexico recently, I stopped at an old-fashioned 50's-style soda fountain and bought myself a couple of real Mexican Cokes.  Big ol'suckers in real glass bottles made with real live CANE sugar.  (I shared them with a dozen people so maybe I didn't indulge too much.)

Seems like a push to eat or drink the most un-messed-with items you can get would help.  If you have to eat rice do brown rice.  100% whole wheat bread with all sorts of extra nuts and grains when you do eat a sandwich.  Stuff like that.

Also I try to ride my bike to work.  I manage it most weeks.  That's a 10-mile round trip at about 10 to 12 mph, which is a lot for chubette me.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #14 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 07:05:18 »
Bike ride to work = bad hair day.

Not to mention the heat and humidity in this area would have your make up dripping worse than a Tammy Faye meltdown.

janine,


I thought the majority of sugar consumption came from cane.  I fail to see what was unique about the cookies you mentioned. Not only that, but refined wheat flour basically processes the same way as simple sugar.

Cookies are killers either way ya hack it.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #15 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 08:55:38 »
So what about them sugar-free twinkies?

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #16 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 09:01:03 »
So what about them sugar-free twinkies?

Only if they are fried!

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #17 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 09:28:24 »
If it's sweet and sugar free, beware.

It's usually loaded with sugar alcohols. If that is the case then you are in for some gastro-intestanal distress. If it's just an artificial sweetener then it should not be so hard on the gut.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #18 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 09:40:19 »
That's why I stick to the real thing.

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #19 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 10:24:48 »
Gary,

You mean the 'refined' thing...table sugar. Unless you chew on cane and suck out the juice. Then its the real thing.

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« Reply #20 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 10:41:54 »
I've lost almost 35 pounds without counting a single calorie.

I just don't eat anything with HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) in it and just in the rarest of circumstances eat anything with regular sugar. I strongly avoid wheat flours and corn and corn products. Don't eat taters and avoid rice. I stay away from the sweeter fruits (apples, peaches, grapes) but do eat the various berries and melons.

I feel better than I have in years!

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« Reply #21 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 10:43:17 »
That's great Marc!

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« Reply #22 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 11:38:16 »
I've lost almost 35 pounds without counting a single calorie.

I just don't eat anything with HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) in it and just in the rarest of circumstances eat anything with regular sugar. I strongly avoid wheat flours and corn and corn products. Don't eat taters and avoid rice. I stay away from the sweeter fruits (apples, peaches, grapes) but do eat the various berries and melons.

I feel better than I have in years!

Whole-natural, unrefined. Just like in the Garden of Eden.

Excellent post Arkstfan!

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« Reply #23 on: Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 12:24:05 »
Obviously, no one has posted the real reason for Americans getting fat.

Two words: 

Instrumental Music.

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« Reply #24 on: Tue Jul 04, 2006 - 07:09:12 »
Gary,

I see the milk chocolate just kicked in to over drive!

Musical instuements, of course. Man, why does it take me so long to catch on ::doh::

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« Reply #25 on: Tue Jul 04, 2006 - 17:03:05 »
That explains Meat Loaf.

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« Reply #26 on: Sat Jul 08, 2006 - 23:13:24 »
I've lost almost 35 pounds without counting a single calorie.

I just don't eat anything with HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) in it and just in the rarest of circumstances eat anything with regular sugar. I strongly avoid wheat flours and corn and corn products. Don't eat taters and avoid rice. I stay away from the sweeter fruits (apples, peaches, grapes) but do eat the various berries and melons.

I feel better than I have in years!

Whole-natural, unrefined. Just like in the Garden of Eden.

Excellent post Arkstfan!

I'm thinking apples, peaches & grapes were on the approved list in the Garden of Eden.

 ::pondering::

Well, maybe not the apples.  rofl

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Re: America is dieting itself into obesity!
« Reply #27 on: Sun Jul 09, 2006 - 10:29:48 »
Why does the apple catch the 'forbidden fruit' rap? Paintings from the middle ages?

Personally, I think the forbidden fruit was a mangosteen  ::rolling::

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« Reply #28 on: Sun Jul 09, 2006 - 14:05:49 »
Since the Tree of Knowledge is not available to us on Earth, it plainly wasn't an apple.

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« Reply #29 on: Sun Jul 09, 2006 - 14:12:54 »
I think it was brain food..............too much of it makes us look too much at ourselves for everything, and forget our deep need for our God.

Maybe Gingko?   ::headscratch::

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« Reply #30 on: Sun Jul 09, 2006 - 16:21:16 »
Why does the apple catch the 'forbidden fruit' rap? Paintings from the middle ages?

Personally, I think the forbidden fruit was a mangosteen  ::rolling::

Now, that's funny!  Gave you manna for that, Lamb!

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« Reply #31 on: Fri Jul 14, 2006 - 23:29:05 »
I love my MIL to death, but you just can't tell her anything!  She recently told us that she doesn't eat bananas because they have too much fat in them!!!  Where she gets this from, I don't know!  But then she told us that the doctor said she was low in potassium, so she was taking a pill for it!!  She takes a diuretic because her ankles swell and then a different pill because she has to pee too often!

She drinks diet soda and eats tons of low-fat, no-sugar ice cream, (blech!) uses low-fat margarine and won't eat potatoes because they are fattening.  She buys egg substitute in a carton because real eggs are bad for you.  She puts low-fat imitation mayo on her pastrami sandwiches.  She had five different jars of jelly/jam in the fridge, well used.

About the only real food she eats is an orange for breakfast.

One problem we had while visiting her is that we found ourselves eating much more than normal because her food wasn't satisfying us.

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« Reply #32 on: Sat Jul 15, 2006 - 00:18:58 »
I don't know whether I'd laugh or cry.

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« Reply #33 on: Sat Jul 15, 2006 - 07:47:22 »
Nevertheless,

Sounds to me like your MIL will listen to a doctor. Maybe an advance converstion with the doctor before the next visit should be in order. The problem with 'old wine skins' is that they really only take advice from folks not close/related to them.

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« Reply #34 on: Sun Jul 16, 2006 - 21:23:43 »
We would probably try that, but we live in MO and she in CA.  It's hard to help out long distance.