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Stucky:

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Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


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Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

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Larry,

Respectfully, I believe them to be the multitude of saints murdered by the anti-christ during the tribulation.  I believe the rapture occurred prior to the tribulation.

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Dear Stucky, I would suggest that the catching up of the saints regardless of the group will follow the following order; those asleep in Christ, and then those who are alive. In your scenario, where do those alive come up?

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. 
14   For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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Larry,

Same as yours but I believe it to be at the second coming of Jesus and that He came secretly prior to the tribulation to take His church (bride) to Heaven for the Feast of the Lamb (or bride my brains sluggish tonight).  If you've ever seen a description of the old traditional Jewish wedding ceremony it is a perfect representation of Jesus and His Church.  I would try to find it for anyone that wanted to see it.  I was amazed at the way God does everything according to Jewish tradition.


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I have no problem with that, but what makes you believe Christ is restricted to coming only one time since John sees different ones appear in heave at separate times?

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Who said anything about that Larry?

banished:
Two nice ladies came to the door once, and told me that the Jehovah Witnesses are the 144,000.

lightshineon:

--- Quote from: banished on Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:26:12 ---Two nice ladies came to the door once, and told me that the Jehovah Witnesses are the 144,000.

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 LOL, so they were there to spread the good news of" I am not going to heaven, neither or you" ::crackup::

banished:
Here is my real life adventures with the Rapture:

Back in 1988 while I was still in between wives, I was in a large Charismatic church in San Jose that was mostly singles.  During that year there was a book out titled, "88 Reasons why the Rapture will be in 1988".  Well, that little book took off like a wildfire in Northern California.  The media kept talking about the upcoming Rapture. It went on and on, and everyone around here was caught up in it.  The little white book said that the Rapture would take place after sunset on the eve of the day before Rosh Hashana, and the little book had about a hundred pages of biblical mathematics to back it up.

To make a long story short, the single gals at that church decided to be up on the top of the mountains surrounding San Jose well ahead of sunset and wait to be Raptured.  Naturally, all the single guys (many were fakes) followed the gal up to the hills. It was a beautiful sunset, but there was no Rapture that we knew of.  We spent the rest of the night praying in the Spirit and Binding Satan.

Anyway, that little book is still alive and doing well today, because Harold Camping of Family Radio that is based here in the San Francisco area in Oakland.  Harold Camping teaches that on that very Rosh Hashana in 1988 the Church Age ended, so I must assume that the Rapture took place then also?  Camping now uses the "rains"in the Bible more than the author of 88 Reasons.  What made 88 Reasons go over so well in this area was the mathematics of it. This is a high tech area.

Just wondering?  Does anyone here remember that little 88 Reasons Book, or listen to Harold Camping on the car radio?  There is a lot of good math in this stuff.

lightshineon:

--- Quote from: banished on Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 10:45:46 ---Here is my real life adventures with the Rapture:

Back in 1988 while I was still in between wives, I was in a large Charismatic church in San Jose that was mostly singles.  During that year there was a book out titled, "88 Reasons why the Rapture will be in 1988".  Well, that little book took off like a wildfire in Northern California.  The media kept talking about the upcoming Rapture. It went on and on, and everyone around here was caught up in it.  The little white book said that the Rapture would take place after sunset on the eve of the day before Rosh Hashana, and the little book had about a hundred pages of biblical mathematics to back it up.

To make a long story short, the single gals at that church decided to be up on the top of the mountains surrounding San Jose well ahead of sunset and wait to be Raptured.  Naturally, all the single guys (many were fakes) followed the gal up to the hills. It was a beautiful sunset, but there was no Rapture that we knew of.  We spent the rest of the night praying in the Spirit and Binding Satan.

Anyway, that little book is still alive and doing well today, because Harold Camping of Family Radio that is based here in the San Francisco area in Oakland.  Harold Camping teaches that on that very Rosh Hashana in 1988 the Church Age ended, so I must assume that the Rapture took place then also?  Camping now uses the "rains"in the Bible more than the author of 88 Reasons.  What made 88 Reasons go over so well in this area was the mathematics of it. This is a high tech area.

Just wondering?  Does anyone here remember that little 88 Reasons Book, or listen to Harold Camping on the car radio?  There is a lot of good math in this stuff.


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 Actually my in laws in NC, talk about that, and one man they knew had a nervous breakdown, a religious one, and people were putting their pets to sleep, and such. My husbands aunt went to a Charismatic church, where the movement was really big. Harold Camping is a nut, and he does not like my style of music, so no, just heard of him, and would never read his books.

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