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« Reply #35 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 20:47:41 »
Honestly, I do not know where I stand, on pretrib, mid trib/  no trib,I do not know. Revelation to me, is what the name means, we are reveled the Jesus who is the glorified God man, who is so Holy, that John his beloved disciple, who laid his head on his chest, fell as a dead man in his presence. Jesus touched him with his right hand and told him not to be afraid. That just made my heart jump. Anyway, I do not like teaching on Revelation by pastors, because everyone interputs it differently. I have read commentaries some, and the book, of course but, do not pretend to understand it all, as of yet.

You're a nice girl LSO, gonna be a joy to meet you and hubby in Heaven.

 It will be great to see you and yours there too. how will I recognize you stucky, is that an actual photo ::crackup::

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« Reply #36 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 20:51:30 »
Honestly, I do not know where I stand, on pretrib, mid trib/  no trib,I do not know. Revelation to me, is what the name means, we are reveled the Jesus who is the glorified God man, who is so Holy, that John his beloved disciple, who laid his head on his chest, fell as a dead man in his presence. Jesus touched him with his right hand and told him not to be afraid. That just made my heart jump. Anyway, I do not like teaching on Revelation by pastors, because everyone interputs it differently. I have read commentaries some, and the book, of course but, do not pretend to understand it all, as of yet.

You're a nice girl LSO, gonna be a joy to meet you and hubby in Heaven.

 It will be great to see you and yours there too. how will I recognize you stucky, is that an actual photo ::crackup::

Rhonda,

You're cute.   ::smile::  My wife liked that one.  I'll be the guy standing next to Jesus while everyone is saying who's that guy standing next to Stucky?

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« Reply #37 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 21:16:51 »
anyone ever thought Revelation can have dual meanings, like the book of Isaiah?

lightshineon,

My wife is sitting here in the room with me, so I can't look into her study guide.  I think it's save to assume that before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many. The one enduring truth that emerges from the Old Testiment is that nobody can go to heaven without a Passover. Just as the wrath of God was upon everyone in Egypt when God went about to slay the firstborn and God said “if I see the blood, I will pass over you,

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« Reply #38 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 21:22:22 »
anyone ever thought Revelation can have dual meanings, like the book of Isaiah?

lightshineon,

My wife is sitting here in the room with me, so I can't look into her study guide.  I think it's save to assume that before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many. The one enduring truth that emerges from the Old Testiment is that nobody can go to heaven without a Passover. Just as the wrath of God was upon everyone in Egypt when God went about to slay the firstborn and God said “if I see the blood, I will pass over you,

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« Reply #39 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 21:27:27 »
anyone ever thought Revelation can have dual meanings, like the book of Isaiah?

lightshineon,

My wife is sitting here in the room with me, so I can't look into her study guide.  I think it's save to assume that before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many. The one enduring truth that emerges from the Old Testiment is that nobody can go to heaven without a Passover. Just as the wrath of God was upon everyone in Egypt when God went about to slay the firstborn and God said “if I see the blood, I will pass over you,

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« Reply #40 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 21:28:48 »
Honestly, I do not know where I stand, on pretrib, mid trib/  no trib,I do not know. Revelation to me, is what the name means, we are reveled the Jesus who is the glorified God man, who is so Holy, that John his beloved disciple, who laid his head on his chest, fell as a dead man in his presence. Jesus touched him with his right hand and told him not to be afraid. That just made my heart jump. Anyway, I do not like teaching on Revelation by pastors, because everyone interputs it differently. I have read commentaries some, and the book, of course but, do not pretend to understand it all, as of yet.

You're a nice girl LSO, gonna be a joy to meet you and hubby in Heaven.

 It will be great to see you and yours there too. how will I recognize you stucky, is that an actual photo ::crackup::

Rhonda,

You're cute.   ::smile::  My wife liked that one.  I'll be the guy standing next to Jesus while everyone is saying who's that guy standing next to Stucky?


 rofl

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« Reply #41 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 21:42:07 »


Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

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« Reply #42 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 21:46:06 »


Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.


Larry,

Respectfully, I believe them to be the multitude of saints murdered by the anti-christ during the tribulation.  I believe the rapture occurred prior to the tribulation.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 22:28:54 »
Are you guys talking about Peter being Raptured in (Acts 10:9-23), the Rapture of the 144,000, or some Rapture that I don't know about?
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« Reply #44 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 22:47:15 »


Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.


Larry,

Respectfully, I believe them to be the multitude of saints murdered by the anti-christ during the tribulation.  I believe the rapture occurred prior to the tribulation.

Dear Stucky, I would suggest that the catching up of the saints regardless of the group will follow the following order; those asleep in Christ, and then those who are alive. In your scenario, where do those alive come up?

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. 
14   For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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« Reply #45 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 22:55:08 »
Are you guys talking about Paul being Raptured in (Acts 10:9-23), the Rapture of the 144,000, or some Rapture that I don't know about?b

Banished,

Acts 10:9-23 is Peters vision.  The 144,000 don't get raptured (I believe).
This is the rapture of the church peior to the tribulation (IMHO).

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« Reply #46 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:02:53 »


Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.


Larry,

Respectfully, I believe them to be the multitude of saints murdered by the anti-christ during the tribulation.  I believe the rapture occurred prior to the tribulation.

Dear Stucky, I would suggest that the catching up of the saints regardless of the group will follow the following order; those asleep in Christ, and then those who are alive. In your scenario, where do those alive come up?

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. 
14   For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Larry,

Same as yours but I believe it to be at the second coming of Jesus and that He came secretly prior to the tribulation to take His church (bride) to Heaven for the Feast of the Lamb (or bride my brains sluggish tonight).  If you've ever seen a description of the old traditional Jewish wedding ceremony it is a perfect representation of Jesus and His Church.  I would try to find it for anyone that wanted to see it.  I was amazed at the way God does everything according to Jewish tradition.

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« Reply #47 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:07:49 »

Are you guys talking about Paul being Raptured in (Acts 10:9-23), the Rapture of the 144,000, or some Rapture that I don't know about?b


Dear Brother banished, I am talking of all that John sees in Heaven from the time Jesus takes His own throne in Revelation 4:2; the twent-four elders of Revelation 4:4, and the four beasts of Revelation 4:6, and the great multitude of Revelation 7:14, and the "144,000 or Man Child" of Revelation 12:5 caught up to God and His throne.

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« Reply #48 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:13:51 »

Are you guys talking about Paul being Raptured in (Acts 10:9-23), the Rapture of the 144,000, or some Rapture that I don't know about?b


Dear Brother banished, I am talking of all that John sees in Heaven from the time Jesus takes His own throne in Revelation 4:2; the twent-four elders of Revelation 4:4, and the four beasts of Revelation 4:6, and the great multitude of Revelation 7:14, and the "144,000 or Man Child" of Revelation 12:5 caught up to God and His throne.

Dear Brother Larry  ::smile::

Revelation 12:5 (New International Version)
5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.

The 144,000 are going to rule all the nations?

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« Reply #49 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:14:42 »


Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.


Larry,

Respectfully, I believe them to be the multitude of saints murdered by the anti-christ during the tribulation.  I believe the rapture occurred prior to the tribulation.

Dear Stucky, I would suggest that the catching up of the saints regardless of the group will follow the following order; those asleep in Christ, and then those who are alive. In your scenario, where do those alive come up?

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. 
14   For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Larry,

Same as yours but I believe it to be at the second coming of Jesus and that He came secretly prior to the tribulation to take His church (bride) to Heaven for the Feast of the Lamb (or bride my brains sluggish tonight).  If you've ever seen a description of the old traditional Jewish wedding ceremony it is a perfect representation of Jesus and His Church.  I would try to find it for anyone that wanted to see it.  I was amazed at the way God does everything according to Jewish tradition.


I have no problem with that, but what makes you believe Christ is restricted to coming only one time since John sees different ones appear in heave at separate times?

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« Reply #50 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:18:40 »


Why do you assume that the church must go through the tribulation?


Don't you consider the great multitude as a part of the Church?

Revelation 7:13-15.
13   And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.


Larry,

Respectfully, I believe them to be the multitude of saints murdered by the anti-christ during the tribulation.  I believe the rapture occurred prior to the tribulation.

Dear Stucky, I would suggest that the catching up of the saints regardless of the group will follow the following order; those asleep in Christ, and then those who are alive. In your scenario, where do those alive come up?

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. 
14   For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Larry,

Same as yours but I believe it to be at the second coming of Jesus and that He came secretly prior to the tribulation to take His church (bride) to Heaven for the Feast of the Lamb (or bride my brains sluggish tonight).  If you've ever seen a description of the old traditional Jewish wedding ceremony it is a perfect representation of Jesus and His Church.  I would try to find it for anyone that wanted to see it.  I was amazed at the way God does everything according to Jewish tradition.


I have no problem with that, but what makes you believe Christ is restricted to coming only one time since John sees different ones appear in heave at separate times?

Who said anything about that Larry?

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #51 on: Sun Dec 06, 2009 - 23:26:12 »
Two nice ladies came to the door once, and told me that the Jehovah Witnesses are the 144,000.

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« Reply #52 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 09:59:49 »
Two nice ladies came to the door once, and told me that the Jehovah Witnesses are the 144,000.

 LOL, so they were there to spread the good news of" I am not going to heaven, neither or you" ::crackup::

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« Reply #53 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 10:45:46 »
Here is my real life adventures with the Rapture:

Back in 1988 while I was still in between wives, I was in a large Charismatic church in San Jose that was mostly singles.  During that year there was a book out titled, "88 Reasons why the Rapture will be in 1988".  Well, that little book took off like a wildfire in Northern California.  The media kept talking about the upcoming Rapture. It went on and on, and everyone around here was caught up in it.  The little white book said that the Rapture would take place after sunset on the eve of the day before Rosh Hashana, and the little book had about a hundred pages of biblical mathematics to back it up.

To make a long story short, the single gals at that church decided to be up on the top of the mountains surrounding San Jose well ahead of sunset and wait to be Raptured.  Naturally, all the single guys (many were fakes) followed the gal up to the hills. It was a beautiful sunset, but there was no Rapture that we knew of.  We spent the rest of the night praying in the Spirit and Binding Satan.

Anyway, that little book is still alive and doing well today, because Harold Camping of Family Radio that is based here in the San Francisco area in Oakland.  Harold Camping teaches that on that very Rosh Hashana in 1988 the Church Age ended, so I must assume that the Rapture took place then also?  Camping now uses the "rains"in the Bible more than the author of 88 Reasons.  What made 88 Reasons go over so well in this area was the mathematics of it. This is a high tech area.

Just wondering?  Does anyone here remember that little 88 Reasons Book, or listen to Harold Camping on the car radio?  There is a lot of good math in this stuff.

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« Reply #54 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 17:45:41 »
Here is my real life adventures with the Rapture:

Back in 1988 while I was still in between wives, I was in a large Charismatic church in San Jose that was mostly singles.  During that year there was a book out titled, "88 Reasons why the Rapture will be in 1988".  Well, that little book took off like a wildfire in Northern California.  The media kept talking about the upcoming Rapture. It went on and on, and everyone around here was caught up in it.  The little white book said that the Rapture would take place after sunset on the eve of the day before Rosh Hashana, and the little book had about a hundred pages of biblical mathematics to back it up.

To make a long story short, the single gals at that church decided to be up on the top of the mountains surrounding San Jose well ahead of sunset and wait to be Raptured.  Naturally, all the single guys (many were fakes) followed the gal up to the hills. It was a beautiful sunset, but there was no Rapture that we knew of.  We spent the rest of the night praying in the Spirit and Binding Satan.

Anyway, that little book is still alive and doing well today, because Harold Camping of Family Radio that is based here in the San Francisco area in Oakland.  Harold Camping teaches that on that very Rosh Hashana in 1988 the Church Age ended, so I must assume that the Rapture took place then also?  Camping now uses the "rains"in the Bible more than the author of 88 Reasons.  What made 88 Reasons go over so well in this area was the mathematics of it. This is a high tech area.

Just wondering?  Does anyone here remember that little 88 Reasons Book, or listen to Harold Camping on the car radio?  There is a lot of good math in this stuff.


 Actually my in laws in NC, talk about that, and one man they knew had a nervous breakdown, a religious one, and people were putting their pets to sleep, and such. My husbands aunt went to a Charismatic church, where the movement was really big. Harold Camping is a nut, and he does not like my style of music, so no, just heard of him, and would never read his books.

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« Reply #55 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 21:19:01 »
Here is my real life adventures with the Rapture:

Back in 1988 while I was still in between wives, I was in a large Charismatic church in San Jose that was mostly singles.  During that year there was a book out titled, "88 Reasons why the Rapture will be in 1988".  Well, that little book took off like a wildfire in Northern California.  The media kept talking about the upcoming Rapture. It went on and on, and everyone around here was caught up in it.  The little white book said that the Rapture would take place after sunset on the eve of the day before Rosh Hashana, and the little book had about a hundred pages of biblical mathematics to back it up.

To make a long story short, the single gals at that church decided to be up on the top of the mountains surrounding San Jose well ahead of sunset and wait to be Raptured.  Naturally, all the single guys (many were fakes) followed the gal up to the hills. It was a beautiful sunset, but there was no Rapture that we knew of.  We spent the rest of the night praying in the Spirit and Binding Satan.

Anyway, that little book is still alive and doing well today, because Harold Camping of Family Radio that is based here in the San Francisco area in Oakland.  Harold Camping teaches that on that very Rosh Hashana in 1988 the Church Age ended, so I must assume that the Rapture took place then also?  Camping now uses the "rains"in the Bible more than the author of 88 Reasons.  What made 88 Reasons go over so well in this area was the mathematics of it. This is a high tech area.

Just wondering?  Does anyone here remember that little 88 Reasons Book, or listen to Harold Camping on the car radio?  There is a lot of good math in this stuff.


 Actually my in laws in NC, talk about that, and one man they knew had a nervous breakdown, a religious one, and people were putting their pets to sleep, and such. My husbands aunt went to a Charismatic church, where the movement was really big. Harold Camping is a nut, and he does not like my style of music, so no, just heard of him, and would never read his books.

lightshineon,

Thanks for the information about what happened in North Carolina.  I will add that to my memories of the Rapture in 1988.

Okay, I did an Internet search and found out that the author of 88 Reasons was a former NASA engineer. It just so happens that I'm a retired Aerospace Engineer and my boy is an Aerospace Engineering student. That is the math connection. You already know about my love for Trinity Broadcast Network. It was (TBN) who interrupted programming to provide special instructions for preparing for the Rapture. That added to the fire of the local media. The Disk Jockeys on radio kept talking about it all during 1988.

According to Wikipedia 4.5 million copies were sold in bookstores, and 300,000 copies were mailed free to ministers across America.  Whisenant made money. He passed away May 16, 2001.

If the math was correct then we are left behind.

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« Reply #56 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 21:32:48 »
Now I know why I flunked math.  The rapture is going to occur at 11:59 CST on February 29, 2010.  This information was provided to me by my Indian guide and is based on a vision had by a Cherikowa Apachie medicine man named Puma in 1852.  Puma also predicted correctly that his tribal chief Limps Badly was going to be the father of a baby and, sure enough, 3 months later his squaw, in fact, delivered a son to the chief.  Amazing, isn't it?

I do not doubt the veracity of my Indian guide because he has never failed to lead to pools filled with fish when I hire him.

Better start preparing right now.

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« Reply #57 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 22:42:34 »
Trying to calculate mathmatically the biblical date when people will vanish from the time-space continuum is breaking new ground for the Aerospace Engineering disipline. I assume that there would have been electromagnetic waves, or ripples in the fabric of space/time invisibility?  I don't know?  It's all too deep for me at my age.

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« Reply #58 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 22:45:42 »
Trying to calculate mathmatically the biblical date when people will vanish from the time-space continuum is breaking new ground for the Aerospace Engineering disipline. I assume that there would have been electromagnetic waves, or ripples in the fabric of space/time invisibility?  I don't know?  It's all too deep for me at my age.

The only thing I could say in a discussion of the Rapture by aerospace engineers is "Beam me up, Lord".

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« Reply #59 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 23:22:57 »
Trying to calculate mathmatically the biblical date when people will vanish from the time-space continuum is breaking new ground for the Aerospace Engineering disipline. I assume that there would have been electromagnetic waves, or ripples in the fabric of space/time invisibility?  I don't know?  It's all too deep for me at my age.

The only thing I could say in a discussion of the Rapture by aerospace engineers is "Beam me up, Lord".

I doubt very much if a person could be "beamed up" during the Rapture?  You would have to leave the distortion of the timespace continuum usually interpreted with space being three-dimensional and time playing the roll of the fourth dimension. We are talking about supergalactic and subatomic levels. Your beam wouldn't work because the rate at which time passes depends on an object's velocity relative to the speed of light and also on the strength of intense gravitational fields, which can slow the passage of time.

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« Reply #60 on: Mon Dec 07, 2009 - 23:31:40 »
Trying to calculate mathmatically the biblical date when people will vanish from the time-space continuum is breaking new ground for the Aerospace Engineering disipline. I assume that there would have been electromagnetic waves, or ripples in the fabric of space/time invisibility?  I don't know?  It's all too deep for me at my age.

The only thing I could say in a discussion of the Rapture by aerospace engineers is "Beam me up, Lord".

I doubt very much if a person could be "beamed up" during the Rapture?  You would have to leave the distortion of the timespace continuum usually interpreted with space being three-dimensional and time playing the roll of the fourth dimension. We are talking about supergalactic and subatomic levels. Your beam wouldn't work because the rate at which time passes depends on an object's velocity relative to the speed of light and also on the strength of intense gravitational fields, which can slow the passage of time.


 ::doh::All right smarty pants, then explain how Jesus will "beam" us up in the rapture?   ::tinfoil::

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« Reply #61 on: Tue Dec 08, 2009 - 10:19:16 »
How did a "beam" get into this Rapture thread? I can explain the nature of a beam while traveling through space/time. Will you accept mathematical reasoning and argument?  

A young Southern Baptist named Mike distributed Whisenant's little 88 Reasons book. The Pastors at the Baptist church should have issued a statement to the flock.  Jesus warned of "false prophets.", but they didn't. I just thought it would timely to remind, "lightshineon" of the hope for a Rapture in 88 Reasons, and in this story was the young Baptist, Mike. And also, about the Judaized-Christians and Aerospace Engineers like myself who believed in it.

Are we left behind is the question?

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #62 on: Tue Dec 08, 2009 - 17:08:06 »
How did a "beam" get into this Rapture thread? I can explain the nature of a beam while traveling through space/time. Will you accept mathematical reasoning and argument?  

A young Southern Baptist named Mike distributed Whisenant's little 88 Reasons book. The Pastors at the Baptist church should have issued a statement to the flock.  Jesus warned of "false prophets.", but they didn't. I just thought it would timely to remind, "lightshineon" of the hope for a Rapture in 88 Reasons, and in this story was the young Baptist, Mike. And also, about the Judaized-Christians and Aerospace Engineers like myself who believed in it.

Are we left behind is the question?


 I do not know Brother Banshed about the book, I was referring to my husbands family in NC, in 1988, where is was a charismatic movement. Baptist, well you know are pretty, black and white, which is good and bad. Charismatics are not discerning enough, but, they have things good and bad.

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #63 on: Tue Dec 08, 2009 - 17:15:50 »
How did a "beam" get into this Rapture thread? I can explain the nature of a beam while traveling through space/time. Will you accept mathematical reasoning and argument?  

A young Southern Baptist named Mike distributed Whisenant's little 88 Reasons book. The Pastors at the Baptist church should have issued a statement to the flock.  Jesus warned of "false prophets.", but they didn't. I just thought it would timely to remind, "lightshineon" of the hope for a Rapture in 88 Reasons, and in this story was the young Baptist, Mike. And also, about the Judaized-Christians and Aerospace Engineers like myself who believed in it.

Are we left behind is the question?


Banished,

Ya really gotta get a sense of humor dude.  I was making a joke about Aerospace Engineers talking about the rapture.  The conversation would all be above my head and the Star Trek thing about "beam me up" was a way to make a light joke.  (Best a dummy like me can explain my post.  Forgive me for not being all serious and stuff).

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #64 on: Wed Dec 09, 2009 - 13:17:25 »
Stucky,

I usually try to follow the topic, and the topic is, "Rapture occured!".  The events that took place in 1988 during the 40th Anniversary of the Nation of Israel were earth shaking, and were broadcasted world-wide on (TBN). I think we should at least define what a Rapture is, and what would be required to vanish from the time-space continuum. Then, keep this thread alive to see who drops in with added information.  Maybe we are left behind?     

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #65 on: Wed Dec 09, 2009 - 15:40:31 »
Stucky,

I usually try to follow the topic, and the topic is, "Rapture occured!".  The events that took place in 1988 during the 40th Anniversary of the Nation of Israel were earth shaking, and were broadcasted world-wide on (TBN). I think we should at least define what a Rapture is, and what would be required to vanish from the time-space continuum. Then, keep this thread alive to see who drops in with added information.  Maybe we are left behind?     


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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #66 on: Wed Dec 09, 2009 - 22:19:24 »
Stucky,

I usually try to follow the topic, and the topic is, "Rapture occured!".  The events that took place in 1988 during the 40th Anniversary of the Nation of Israel were earth shaking, and were broadcasted world-wide on (TBN). I think we should at least define what a Rapture is, and what would be required to vanish from the time-space continuum. Then, keep this thread alive to see who drops in with added information.  Maybe we are left behind?     


 What? it happened in 1988 on TBN? ???

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #67 on: Wed Dec 09, 2009 - 23:29:44 »
Stucky,

I usually try to follow the topic, and the topic is, "Rapture occured!".  The events that took place in 1988 during the 40th Anniversary of the Nation of Israel were earth shaking, and were broadcasted world-wide on (TBN). I think we should at least define what a Rapture is, and what would be required to vanish from the time-space continuum. Then, keep this thread alive to see who drops in with added information.  Maybe we are left behind?     


 What? it happened in 1988 on TBN? ???

Rhonda,

I have no idea what banished is talking about but I guess the rapture occured in Israel in 1988, TBN (no one else?) reported it and you and I missed it.  I guess rezar was correct and I'm not saved after all.   ::eek::

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #68 on: Wed Dec 09, 2009 - 23:30:42 »
Stucky,

I usually try to follow the topic, and the topic is, "Rapture occured!".  The events that took place in 1988 during the 40th Anniversary of the Nation of Israel were earth shaking, and were broadcasted world-wide on (TBN). I think we should at least define what a Rapture is, and what would be required to vanish from the time-space continuum. Then, keep this thread alive to see who drops in with added information.  Maybe we are left behind?     


 What? it happened in 1988 on TBN? ???

Rhonda,

I have no idea what banished is talking about but I guess the rapture occured in Israel in 1988, TBN (no one else?) reported it and you and I missed it.  I guess rezar was correct and I'm not saved after all.   ::eek::

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Re: Rapture occured!
« Reply #69 on: Thu Dec 10, 2009 - 09:52:21 »
Rhonda,

If (Matthew 24:23) is true, then we must add 70 A.D. to the dispensational line:

"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." (Matthew 24:34)

In other words, AD70 was the end of the old age and the start of the "age to come". The World which followed was fundamentally changed, according to the power of the comming of Christ at the fall of Jerusalem. When Herod's Temple in Jerusalem fell in AD70 it was not only the end of Old Testament Judaism, but probably the end of the revelation of Christianity that we see in the New Testament?

Here is a piece that I found on the Internet:

"The theory of the rapture only came into vogue in the late 1800s. It is not part of church teaching a Miss Mcdonald supposedly had a vision, then it became part of evangelical teaching by a pastor Nelson Darby"

 

     
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