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Will the Climate Change agenda be used to bring in the Sunday law?

Started by Hobie, Fri Oct 23, 2020 - 21:22:43

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Hobie

If we have a Climate Change agenda by the leaders of the US put in place as we are hearing, will it include the Popes ideas. We see it laid out by the Pope...

'The Earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth?, he said in his encyclical called 'Laudato Si': On Care for Our Common Home .
Acknowledging that the environment is getting worse, Pope Francis is addressing this message to 'every person living on this planet' and urges us to make improvements for the environment..."

"the Pope connects the environment with Sunday keeping:
'On Sunday, our participation in the Eucharist has special importance. Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world. Sunday is the day of the Resurrection, the 'first day' of the new creation, whose first fruits are the Lord's risen humanity, the pledge of the final transfiguration of all created reality. It also proclaims 'man's eternal rest in God'.168 In this way, Christian spirituality incorporates the value of relaxation and festivity".... https://www.empowermissions.org/pope-connects-sunday-keeping-with-a-better-environment/

"Pope Francis states Sunday Eucharist must be enforced to combat consumerism 'Laudato Si' is the second encyclical of Pope Francis. The encyclical has the subtitle 'on care for our common home.' In it, the pope critiques consumerism and irresponsible development, laments environmental degradation and global warming, and calls all people of the world to take 'swift and unified global action.' 3..... https://www.prophesyagain.org/single-post/2019/10/24/International-Shabbat-Law-An-Unlikely-Catalyst-for-Sunday-Law-to-Combat-Consumerism-and-Climate-Change

"...The Catholic Climate Movement is a global network of over 650+ Catholic organizations, including the Jesuits, the Knights of Columbus and many others. [1] They have organized for one purpose ? to implement Pope Francis? ?Laudato Si? encyclical [2] which calls, through stealth, for ?Sunday? to be the ?law of weekly rest? in order to save the environment. [3]

The Catholic Climate Movement is using its vast network and membership to lobby political leaders by urging them to adopt Laudato Si. They are also busy training Catholic laypeople to become ?Laudato Si Animators.? [4] These ?Laudato Si Animators? receive special training to become ?champions? for raising awareness to the Pope?s message on climate change in our society..."

http://adventmessenger.org/over-650-catholic-organization-world-wide-are-working-to-implement-the-popes-green-sunday-law/

And you see how the world is coming on board..

"Green sabbaths will provide a recurring greenhouse for incubating the required collective consciousness and willpower 'the ultimate renewable energies' to make the solutions reality. Green sabbaths will constitute both a model and a foretaste of the ecologically-sane world to come."..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3BN_GnU5vI

4WD

The pope is a dedicated Socialist/Communist and it would seem that his agenda is more Socialist/Communist than Christian.  That is indeed sad.  I believe that Socialism/Communism is actually anti-Christian.  Nearly everywhere that Socialism/Communism has raised its ugly head, God is actively attacked with the goal of banishing Him from the land.

Amo

Quote from: Hobie on Fri Oct 23, 2020 - 21:22:43
If we have a Climate Change agenda by the leaders of the US put in place as we are hearing, will it include the Popes ideas. We see it laid out by the Pope...

'The Earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth?, he said in his encyclical called 'Laudato Si': On Care for Our Common Home .
Acknowledging that the environment is getting worse, Pope Francis is addressing this message to 'every person living on this planet' and urges us to make improvements for the environment..."

"the Pope connects the environment with Sunday keeping:
'On Sunday, our participation in the Eucharist has special importance. Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world. Sunday is the day of the Resurrection, the 'first day' of the new creation, whose first fruits are the Lord's risen humanity, the pledge of the final transfiguration of all created reality. It also proclaims 'man's eternal rest in God'.168 In this way, Christian spirituality incorporates the value of relaxation and festivity".... https://www.empowermissions.org/pope-connects-sunday-keeping-with-a-better-environment/

"Pope Francis states Sunday Eucharist must be enforced to combat consumerism 'Laudato Si' is the second encyclical of Pope Francis. The encyclical has the subtitle 'on care for our common home.' In it, the pope critiques consumerism and irresponsible development, laments environmental degradation and global warming, and calls all people of the world to take 'swift and unified global action.' 3..... https://www.prophesyagain.org/single-post/2019/10/24/International-Shabbat-Law-An-Unlikely-Catalyst-for-Sunday-Law-to-Combat-Consumerism-and-Climate-Change

"...The Catholic Climate Movement is a global network of over 650+ Catholic organizations, including the Jesuits, the Knights of Columbus and many others. [1] They have organized for one purpose ? to implement Pope Francis? ?Laudato Si? encyclical [2] which calls, through stealth, for ?Sunday? to be the ?law of weekly rest? in order to save the environment. [3]

The Catholic Climate Movement is using its vast network and membership to lobby political leaders by urging them to adopt Laudato Si. They are also busy training Catholic laypeople to become ?Laudato Si Animators.? [4] These ?Laudato Si Animators? receive special training to become ?champions? for raising awareness to the Pope?s message on climate change in our society..."

http://adventmessenger.org/over-650-catholic-organization-world-wide-are-working-to-implement-the-popes-green-sunday-law/

And you see how the world is coming on board..

"Green sabbaths will provide a recurring greenhouse for incubating the required collective consciousness and willpower 'the ultimate renewable energies' to make the solutions reality. Green sabbaths will constitute both a model and a foretaste of the ecologically-sane world to come."..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3BN_GnU5vI

Where do you think the climate change agenda is coming from? Of course it will include the Popes ideas. Once the papacy creates or embraces a political cause, and begins to pontificate regarding it, it is the duty of her constituents to establish the same through legislation. Ignoring these facts, or intentionally hiding these intentions and actions from public view, only empowers their cause. Therefore is our country and this world ever increasingly plunged into the chaos and confusion which Babylon the Great employs in her power hungry endeavors.

Hobie

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Oct 24, 2020 - 06:30:18
The pope is a dedicated Socialist/Communist and it would seem that his agenda is more Socialist/Communist than Christian.  That is indeed sad.  I believe that Socialism/Communism is actually anti-Christian.  Nearly everywhere that Socialism/Communism has raised its ugly head, God is actively attacked with the goal of banishing Him from the land.
Many of the 'isms' are anti-Christian and can be traced to back to the hidden agenda of the Papacy and its Jesuits.

Texas Conservative

There will be no "Sunday Law."

Wholesale restrictions on religious communities by secular governments will and have happened.  But not restricted to Sunday

Amo

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Sat Dec 05, 2020 - 08:06:14
There will be no "Sunday Law."

Wholesale restrictions on religious communities by secular governments will and have happened.  But not restricted to Sunday

Denial is as denial does. The following link is taken from the OP of the Sabbath, Sunday, and Legalism thread started several years ago. It is a book examining Sunday laws throughout history up until 1902 when it was apparently published. The Sabbath, Sunday, and Legalism thread mentioned above has quite a bit of more recent activity concerning the same.

https://archive.org/stream/sundaylegislat00lewi#page/n9/mode/2up

Sunday laws have been a reality in this world since the time of the Roman Emperor Constantine. 

QuoteThe text of Constantine's Sunday Law of 321 A.D. is :
"One the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost. (Given the 7th day of March, Crispus and Constantine being consuls each of them the second time." Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3; translated in History of the Christian Church, Philip Schaff, D.D., (7-vol.ed.) Vol. III, p.380. New York, 1884

Dr. A.Chr. Bang says regarding this Law :
"This Sunday law constituted no real favoratism to Christianity..... It is evident from all his statuatory provisions that the Emperor during the time 313-323 with full consciousness has sought the realisation of his religeous aim: the amalgamation of heathenism and Christianity." Kirken og Romerstaten (The Church and the Roman State) p.256. Christiania, 1879

In A.D. 321, to please the bishops of the Catholic Church, he issued an edict commanding judges, townspeople, and mechanics to rest on Sunday. Yet in this also his paganism was still manifest, as the edict required rest on "the venerable day of the sun," and "enjoined the observance, or rather forbade the public desecration, of Sunday, not under the name of Sabbatum, or Dies Domini, but under its old astrological and heathen title, Dies Solis , familiar to all his subjects, so that the law was as applicable to the worshipers of Hercules, Apollo, and Mithras, as to the Christians."  (History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3, sec. 75, par. 5.-Schaff.)   ( The Great Empires of Prophecy by Alonzo Jones page 391 )

Rella

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Sat Dec 05, 2020 - 08:06:14
There will be no "Sunday Law."

Wholesale restrictions on religious communities by secular governments will and have happened.  But not restricted to Sunday

I vote for a 6 PM Friday to a 6PM Sunday  Blue laws in effect.

NO football or sports.

No TV

Plenty of sleep.

Plenty of prayer.

And then we eat!

Amo

I vote government stays out of when people choose to rest. Especially when chosen days of rest are due to religious convictions concerning the same. Religion absolutely should not be forced upon anyone. All religions accepting or dependent upon government enforcement are false religions dependent upon fallen human power over and above divine power of conviction and conversion.

Rella

Quote from: Amo on Sat Dec 05, 2020 - 12:21:56
I vote government stays out of when people choose to rest. Especially when chosen days of rest are due to religious convictions concerning the same. Religion absolutely should not be forced upon anyone. All religions accepting or dependent upon government enforcement are false religions dependent upon fallen human power over and above divine power of conviction and conversion.

Nor should they be denied as has been done for months under the China virus with churches still closed or reclosing. (Mine just did)

mommydi

Quote from: Rella on Sat Dec 05, 2020 - 11:12:01
I vote for a 6 PM Friday to a 6PM Sunday  Blue laws in effect.

NO football or sports.

No TV

Plenty of sleep.

Plenty of prayer.

And then we eat!

I remember how shocked I was in the late 70s, moving to Texas, and learning all about their blue laws. The weirdest thing was going to a grocery store on Sunday where they'd rope off the housewares/automotive aisle. This Okie wasn't used to such things.




Amo

Quote from: Rella on Sun Dec 06, 2020 - 08:42:39
Nor should they be denied as has been done for months under the China virus with churches still closed or reclosing. (Mine just did)

Exactly! Quite obviously, present globalist elitist minded religious, political, and "scientific" leaders care nothing for the basic God given rights our forefathers fought and died to create and preserve. Traitorous politicians the world over who were elected to protect and maintain those rights for their citizens, are bowing to these self important and appointed elitist dictators. It goes without saying, that it is foolish to elect persons who belong to religious, political, or "scientific" organizations whose leader or leaders preach or promote a common good or anything else that threatens individual rights and freedoms. Even a devout atheist from the past had enough common sense to see through the self aggrandizing mindset of one who would preach submission to a common good over individual rights and freedoms which they themselves define.

Chapter 11

A Voice From the Recent Past Concerning the Common Good



The Only Path To Tomorrow
Ayn Rand

Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90

Writers comments in blue, all Emphasis mine

The greatest threat to mankind and civilization is the spread of the totalitarian philosophy. Its best ally is not the devotion of its followers but the confusion of its enemies. To fight it, we must understand it.

Totalitarianism is collectivism. Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group — whether to a race, class or state does not matter. Collectivism holds that man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called ``the common good.´´

Throughout history, no tyrant ever rose to power except on the claim of representing ``the common good.´´ Napoleon ``served the common good´´ of France. Hitler is ``serving the common good´´ of Germany. Horrors which no man would dare consider for his own selfish sake are perpetrated with a clear conscience by ``altruists´´ who justify themselves by-the common good.

No tyrant has ever lasted long by force of arms alone. Men have been enslaved primarily by spiritual weapons. And the greatest of these is the collectivist doctrine that the supremacy of the state over the individual constitutes the common good. No dictator could rise if men held as a sacred faith the conviction that they have inalienable rights of which they cannot be deprived for any cause whatsoever, by any man whatsoever, neither by evildoer nor supposed benefactor.

This is the basic tenet of individualism, as opposed to collectivism. Individualism holds that man is an independent entity with an inalienable right to the pursuit of his own happiness in a society where men deal with one another as equals.

The American system is founded on individualism. If it is to survive, we must understand the principles of individualism and hold them as our standard in any public question, in every issue we face. We must have a positive credo, a clear consistent faith.

We must learn to reject as total evil the conception that the common good is served by the abolition of individual rights. General happiness cannot be created out of general suffering and self-immolation. The only happy society is one of happy individuals. One cannot have a healthy forest made up of rotten trees.

The power of society must always be limited by the basic, inalienable rights of the individual.

The right of liberty means man's right to individual action, individual choice, individual initiative and individual property. Without the right to private property no independent action is possible.

The right to the pursuit of happiness means man's right to live for himself, to choose what constitutes his own, private, personal happiness and to work for its achievement. Each individual is the sole and final judge in this choice. A man's happiness cannot be prescribed to him by another man or by any number of other men.

These rights are the unconditional, personal, private, individual possession of every man, granted to him by the fact of his birth and requiring no other sanction. Such was the conception of the founders of our country, who placed individual rights above any and all collective claims. Society can only be a traffic policeman in the intercourse of men with one another.

From the beginning of history, two antagonists have stood face to face, two opposite types of men: the Active and the Passive. The Active Man is the producer, the creator, the originator, the individualist. His basic need is independence — in order to think and work. He neither needs nor seeks power over other men — nor can he be made to work under any form of compulsion. Every type of good work — from laying bricks to writing a symphony — is done by the Active Man. Degrees of human ability vary, but the basic principle remains the same: the degree of a man's independence and initiative determines his talent as a worker and his worth as a man.

The Passive Man is found on every level of society, in mansions and in slums, and his identification mark is his dread of independence. He is a parasite who expects to be taken care of by others, who wishes to be given directives, to obey, to submit, to be regulated, to be told. He welcomes collectivism, which eliminates any chance that he might have to think or act on his own initiative.

When a society is based on the needs of the Passive Man it destroys the Active; but when the Active is destroyed, the Passive can no longer be cared for. When a society is based on the needs of the Active Man, he carries the Passive ones along on his energy and raises them as he rises, as the whole society rises. This has been the pattern of all human progress.

Some humanitarians demand a collective state because of their pity for the incompetent or Passive Man. For his sake they wish to harness the Active. But the Active Man cannot function in harness. And once he is destroyed, the destruction of the Passive Man follows automatically. So if pity is the humanitarians' first consideration, then in the name of pity, if nothing else, they should leave the Active Man free to function, in order to help the Passive. There is no other way to help him in the long run.

The history of mankind is the history of the struggle between the Active Man and the Passive, between the individual and the collective. The countries which have produced the happiest men, the highest standards of living and the greatest cultural advances have been the countries where the power of the collective — of the government, of the state — was limited and the individual was given freedom of independent action. As examples: The rise of Rome, with its conception of law based on a citizen's rights, over the collectivist barbarism of its time. The rise of England, with a system of government based on the Magna Carta, over collectivist, totalitarian Spain. The rise of the United States to a degree of achievement unequaled in history — by grace of the individual freedom and independence which our Constitution gave each citizen against the collective.

While men are still pondering upon the causes of the rise and fall of civilizations, every page of history cries to us that there is but one source of progress: Individual Man in independent action. Collectivism is the ancient principle of savagery. A savage's whole existence is ruled by the leaders of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.

We are now facing a choice: to go forward or to go back.

Collectivism is not the ``New Order of Tomorrow.´´ It is the order of a very dark yesterday. But there is a New Order of Tomorrow. It belongs to Individual Man — the only creator of any tomorrows humanity has ever been granted. (Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90)

While the author of the above article was certainly not a Christian by any means, the truth embodied in the above article should not be denied by anyone who is. As it will be found in later chapters examining Protestant thought in relation to government and the founding of this nation, her thoughts concerning individualism were certainly not original or new. Though without question her views came from a different perspective, their motive was much the same as that of the Reformers, a reaction and observation in relation to experiential knowledge of abusive government. Hers at the hands of Communistic collectivism, and theirs at the hands for the most part of heavily Roman Catholic imbibed Feudalism. As the above author mentioned Hitler as one proposing the establishment of the common good, the above article itself being written in 1944, the following is his twenty fifth point, of the 25 Points of the Nazi Party.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.

We will not enter into an examination of Hitler and the Vatican in this book, since many others already have. The tie between the two has been examined by many, and is historical fact. The papacy was the first institution to politically recognize Hitler and the Nazi party by signing an accord with the same. Hitler was raised a Catholic and once intended to be a Priest of the faith, but obviously chose another course. He professed to have learned much from the Jesuits, and followed a similar course towards the Jews as that followed by the papacy long before his time. Perhaps "coincidentally", the papacy had also removed all of their rights, confined them to ghettos, and made them wear identity badges, among other abusive demands. These abuses continued right in Rome until well into and beyond the mid 1800's. Yet here we are less than a century and a half later, in a world increasingly looking toward the papacy as an institution of great light and reason toward the development of a global government with real power to enforce its will upon all. God help us, and He will.

In the following chapters we are going to examine the evolution of Protestant thought regarding government, and particularly the concept of separation of church and state, which prevailed until the maturation and establishment of these principles in the formation of the United States government. This was all of course in direct contradiction to the wishes, efforts, and long standing practices of the Roman Catholic Church, who vehemently fought and attacked all such notions for over a thousand years.


Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Sun Dec 06, 2020 - 09:13:51Exactly! Quite obviously, present globalist elitist minded religious, political, and "scientific" leaders care nothing for the basic God given rights our forefathers fought and died to create and preserve. Traitorous politicians the world over who were elected to protect and maintain those rights for their citizens, are bowing to these self important and appointed elitist dictators. It goes without saying, that it is foolish to elect persons who belong to religious, political, or "scientific" organizations whose leader or leaders preach or promote a common good or anything else that threatens individual rights and freedoms. Even a devout atheist from the past had enough common sense to see through the self aggrandizing mindset of one who would preach submission to a common good over individual rights and freedoms which they themselves define.

Chapter 11

A Voice From the Recent Past Concerning the Common Good



The Only Path To Tomorrow
Ayn Rand

Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90

Writers comments in blue, all Emphasis mine

The greatest threat to mankind and civilization is the spread of the totalitarian philosophy. Its best ally is not the devotion of its followers but the confusion of its enemies. To fight it, we must understand it.

Totalitarianism is collectivism. Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group — whether to a race, class or state does not matter. Collectivism holds that man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called ``the common good.´´

Throughout history, no tyrant ever rose to power except on the claim of representing ``the common good.´´ Napoleon ``served the common good´´ of France. Hitler is ``serving the common good´´ of Germany. Horrors which no man would dare consider for his own selfish sake are perpetrated with a clear conscience by ``altruists´´ who justify themselves by-the common good.

No tyrant has ever lasted long by force of arms alone. Men have been enslaved primarily by spiritual weapons. And the greatest of these is the collectivist doctrine that the supremacy of the state over the individual constitutes the common good. No dictator could rise if men held as a sacred faith the conviction that they have inalienable rights of which they cannot be deprived for any cause whatsoever, by any man whatsoever, neither by evildoer nor supposed benefactor.

This is the basic tenet of individualism, as opposed to collectivism. Individualism holds that man is an independent entity with an inalienable right to the pursuit of his own happiness in a society where men deal with one another as equals.

The American system is founded on individualism. If it is to survive, we must understand the principles of individualism and hold them as our standard in any public question, in every issue we face. We must have a positive credo, a clear consistent faith.
 
We must learn to reject as total evil the conception that the common good is served by the abolition of individual rights. General happiness cannot be created out of general suffering and self-immolation. The only happy society is one of happy individuals. One cannot have a healthy forest made up of rotten trees.

The power of society must always be limited by the basic, inalienable rights of the individual.

The right of liberty means man's right to individual action, individual choice, individual initiative and individual property. Without the right to private property no independent action is possible.

The right to the pursuit of happiness means man's right to live for himself, to choose what constitutes his own, private, personal happiness and to work for its achievement. Each individual is the sole and final judge in this choice. A man's happiness cannot be prescribed to him by another man or by any number of other men.

These rights are the unconditional, personal, private, individual possession of every man, granted to him by the fact of his birth and requiring no other sanction. Such was the conception of the founders of our country, who placed individual rights above any and all collective claims. Society can only be a traffic policeman in the intercourse of men with one another.

From the beginning of history, two antagonists have stood face to face, two opposite types of men: the Active and the Passive. The Active Man is the producer, the creator, the originator, the individualist. His basic need is independence — in order to think and work. He neither needs nor seeks power over other men — nor can he be made to work under any form of compulsion. Every type of good work — from laying bricks to writing a symphony — is done by the Active Man. Degrees of human ability vary, but the basic principle remains the same: the degree of a man's independence and initiative determines his talent as a worker and his worth as a man.

The Passive Man is found on every level of society, in mansions and in slums, and his identification mark is his dread of independence. He is a parasite who expects to be taken care of by others, who wishes to be given directives, to obey, to submit, to be regulated, to be told. He welcomes collectivism, which eliminates any chance that he might have to think or act on his own initiative.

When a society is based on the needs of the Passive Man it destroys the Active; but when the Active is destroyed, the Passive can no longer be cared for. When a society is based on the needs of the Active Man, he carries the Passive ones along on his energy and raises them as he rises, as the whole society rises. This has been the pattern of all human progress.

Some humanitarians demand a collective state because of their pity for the incompetent or Passive Man. For his sake they wish to harness the Active. But the Active Man cannot function in harness. And once he is destroyed, the destruction of the Passive Man follows automatically. So if pity is the humanitarians' first consideration, then in the name of pity, if nothing else, they should leave the Active Man free to function, in order to help the Passive. There is no other way to help him in the long run.

The history of mankind is the history of the struggle between the Active Man and the Passive, between the individual and the collective. The countries which have produced the happiest men, the highest standards of living and the greatest cultural advances have been the countries where the power of the collective — of the government, of the state — was limited and the individual was given freedom of independent action. As examples: The rise of Rome, with its conception of law based on a citizen's rights, over the collectivist barbarism of its time. The rise of England, with a system of government based on the Magna Carta, over collectivist, totalitarian Spain. The rise of the United States to a degree of achievement unequaled in history — by grace of the individual freedom and independence which our Constitution gave each citizen against the collective.

While men are still pondering upon the causes of the rise and fall of civilizations, every page of history cries to us that there is but one source of progress: Individual Man in independent action. Collectivism is the ancient principle of savagery. A savage's whole existence is ruled by the leaders of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.

We are now facing a choice: to go forward or to go back.

Collectivism is not the ``New Order of Tomorrow.´´ It is the order of a very dark yesterday. But there is a New Order of Tomorrow. It belongs to Individual Man — the only creator of any tomorrows humanity has ever been granted. (Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90)

While the author of the above article was certainly not a Christian by any means, the truth embodied in the above article should not be denied by anyone who is. As it will be found in later chapters examining Protestant thought in relation to government and the founding of this nation, her thoughts concerning individualism were certainly not original or new. Though without question her views came from a different perspective, their motive was much the same as that of the Reformers, a reaction and observation in relation to experiential knowledge of abusive government. Hers at the hands of Communistic collectivism, and theirs at the hands for the most part of heavily Roman Catholic imbibed Feudalism. As the above author mentioned Hitler as one proposing the establishment of the common good, the above article itself being written in 1944, the following is his twenty fifth point, of the 25 Points of the Nazi Party.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.

We will not enter into an examination of Hitler and the Vatican in this book, since many others already have. The tie between the two has been examined by many, and is historical fact. The papacy was the first institution to politically recognize Hitler and the Nazi party by signing an accord with the same. Hitler was raised a Catholic and once intended to be a Priest of the faith, but obviously chose another course. He professed to have learned much from the Jesuits, and followed a similar course towards the Jews as that followed by the papacy long before his time. Perhaps "coincidentally", the papacy had also removed all of their rights, confined them to ghettos, and made them wear identity badges, among other abusive demands. These abuses continued right in Rome until well into and beyond the mid 1800's. Yet here we are less than a century and a half later, in a world increasingly looking toward the papacy as an institution of great light and reason toward the development of a global government with real power to enforce its will upon all. God help us, and He will.

In the following chapters we are going to examine the evolution of Protestant thought regarding government, and particularly the concept of separation of church and state, which prevailed until the maturation and establishment of these principles in the formation of the United States government. This was all of course in direct contradiction to the wishes, efforts, and long standing practices of the Roman Catholic Church, who vehemently fought and attacked all such notions for over a thousand years.


The 'common good' is a umbrella that we see being used by the world agencies and organizations to bring absolute chaos and destruction, so look out.

Hobie

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Sat Dec 05, 2020 - 08:06:14There will be no "Sunday Law."

Wholesale restrictions on religious communities by secular governments will and have happened.  But not restricted to Sunday
When the 'angel of light', satan, shows himself at Jerusalem, there will be a rush to institute what he asks, and guess whats the first thing to come out of his mouth when it comes to worship....

Texas Conservative

Quote from: Hobie on Mon Jan 15, 2024 - 10:09:01When the 'angel of light', satan, shows himself at Jerusalem, there will be a rush to institute what he asks, and guess whats the first thing to come out of his mouth when it comes to worship....

It won't be Sunday Law.

Rella

Quote from: Hobie on Sat Dec 05, 2020 - 07:31:29Many of the 'isms' are anti-Christian and can be traced to back to the hidden agenda of the Papacy and its Jesuits.

No one argues this unless you are a die hard card carrying member of the RCC.
My question to you is this....

If, by chance, for what ever reason Sunday blue laws come about once again.... and if by any chance someone would or could instill only that one day for worship of who ever it would be....

HAVE YOU really not considered what it would take within your beliefs to start an underground Saturday Sabbath observation.

As long as you and Amo have been on here and elsewhere it is increasingly apparent that you are truly alarmed that Sunday Blue Laws will once again take place.

Will a global whatever taking place kick it off again? IDK.

That is why it is most important to put into our Government those who are less likely to go along.

As far as Frankie goes. He is a very dangerous man and Amo has spent countless hours exposing his agenda.

Most people are clueless and especially are the sheep of that church.

I had thought he was so sick a few weeks ago he might need retire or
might pass away. (Oy, cant imagine that funeral. )... But then who will replace him.

It has been said he will be the last Pope...

Maranatha, Amen


Amo

QuoteIf, by chance, for what ever reason Sunday blue laws come about once again.... and if by any chance someone would or could instill only that one day for worship of who ever it would be....

Sunday blue laws still exist and are still enforced in many places. Many new Sunday laws have been put into place around the world in the last few years. Such laws or such a law would no doubt have to be universally established, before enacting additional laws forbidding other days of worship. Nor is it necessary that all observe Sunday as a religious institution or form of worship, just as long as they observe the restrictions placed upon that day. As the topic of this thread indicates, other compelling reasons to stop normal activities on Sunday have been and are being employed toward this end.

QuoteHAVE YOU really not considered what it would take within your beliefs to start an underground Saturday Sabbath observation.

Who said anyone intends to go underground. Let God's own do what He has commanded, and let the deceived of the world do what they will do. On the other hand, if Saturday Sabbath observance is outlawed, there will be nothing to consider. One will either observe it secretly, or be arrested for doing so. Just as it has been for countless Christians during the past, when many different Christian practices and teachings were outlawed. Nothing new with this scenario, not even persecution for keeping God's seventh day Sabbath. Such has already taken place many times throughout history.

QuoteAs long as you and Amo have been on here and elsewhere it is increasingly apparent that you are truly alarmed that Sunday Blue Laws will once again take place.

To the contrary, we are not alarmed at all, this is what we have fully expected. There is a big difference between being alarmed, and or sounding the alarm. We are sounding the alarm, not alarmed. This message has been going out to the world for at least a century and a half now. The world was warned about its end by a flood for 120 years before that event. Apparently the Lord has given this warning message more time, as the end of the present scenario, is the end of this world indeed. No other chances for humanity after the second coming, only the execution of God's final judgment upon this rebellious world.

QuoteWill a global whatever taking place kick it off again? IDK.

Many events, global or not, have been heading us in this direction again for a long time now. None as prominent though, as the confusion and or increasing indifference toward the Holy Scriptures themselves, which has been developing over time. The following scriptures reveal the last events connected to humanities downfall.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

At a certain point in time, when the vast majority have chosen to believe Satanic lies over and above Holy scripture no doubt, God will send and or allow strong delusion to complete the deception of rebellious fallen humanity. These will be the workings of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,addressed in the above scriptures. God will fully give those who have steadfastly rejected and denied the truths of His word, over to the power and deceptive influence of the evil one. Why should those who have steadfastly rejected truth, not finally be given over to the father of lies?

They will. At which time, such things as we are discussing will fully transpire. As God's word has righteously predicted. Amen!

QuoteThat is why it is most important to put into our Government those who are less likely to go along.

This is true. Knowing however, exactly who such people really are, is becoming increasingly difficult. The enemies of truth seek to confuse all issues unto control through confusion. People who do not know who or what to trust and or believe, become effectively politically paralyzed. This is apart from the controlled system which basically leaves them only two choices in the end, both of which are likely maneuvered into place by those whose end justifies the means of their agenda's. Truth plays little to no part in these increasingly tyrannical plans for world domination.

QuoteAs far as Frankie goes. He is a very dangerous man and Amo has spent countless hours exposing his agenda.

Most people are clueless and especially are the sheep of that church.

I had thought he was so sick a few weeks ago he might need retire or
might pass away. (Oy, cant imagine that funeral. )... But then who will replace him.

It has been said he will be the last Pope...

If he is the last Pope, then time is very short. We should begin to see strong delusion in the near future. The true and false professed Churches of Christ, are here until the end. If or when either ends, so will this world. As our Lord has predicted. Amen.

 







Hobie

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Mon Jan 15, 2024 - 11:29:02It won't be Sunday Law.
It is his substitute for Gods day given at Creation and Satan will lay claim to it and with the help of his followers push it on the world..

Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Sat Jan 20, 2024 - 13:46:17Sunday blue laws still exist and are still enforced in many places. Many new Sunday laws have been put into place around the world in the last few years. Such laws or such a law would no doubt have to be universally established, before enacting additional laws forbidding other days of worship. Nor is it necessary that all observe Sunday as a religious institution or form of worship, just as long as they observe the restrictions placed upon that day. As the topic of this thread indicates, other compelling reasons to stop normal activities on Sunday have been and are being employed toward this end.

Who said anyone intends to go underground. Let God's own do what He has commanded, and let the deceived of the world do what they will do. On the other hand, if Saturday Sabbath observance is outlawed, there will be nothing to consider. One will either observe it secretly, or be arrested for doing so. Just as it has been for countless Christians during the past, when many different Christian practices and teachings were outlawed. Nothing new with this scenario, not even persecution for keeping God's seventh day Sabbath. Such has already taken place many times throughout history.

To the contrary, we are not alarmed at all, this is what we have fully expected. There is a big difference between being alarmed, and or sounding the alarm. We are sounding the alarm, not alarmed. This message has been going out to the world for at least a century and a half now. The world was warned about its end by a flood for 120 years before that event. Apparently the Lord has given this warning message more time, as the end of the present scenario, is the end of this world indeed. No other chances for humanity after the second coming, only the execution of God's final judgment upon this rebellious world.

Many events, global or not, have been heading us in this direction again for a long time now. None as prominent though, as the confusion and or increasing indifference toward the Holy Scriptures themselves, which has been developing over time. The following scriptures reveal the last events connected to humanities downfall.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

At a certain point in time, when the vast majority have chosen to believe Satanic lies over and above Holy scripture no doubt, God will send and or allow strong delusion to complete the deception of rebellious fallen humanity. These will be the workings of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,addressed in the above scriptures. God will fully give those who have steadfastly rejected and denied the truths of His word, over to the power and deceptive influence of the evil one. Why should those who have steadfastly rejected truth, not finally be given over to the father of lies?

They will. At which time, such things as we are discussing will fully transpire. As God's word has righteously predicted. Amen!

This is true. Knowing however, exactly who such people really are, is becoming increasingly difficult. The enemies of truth seek to confuse all issues unto control through confusion. People who do not know who or what to trust and or believe, become effectively politically paralyzed. This is apart from the controlled system which basically leaves them only two choices in the end, both of which are likely maneuvered into place by those whose end justifies the means of their agenda's. Truth plays little to no part in these increasingly tyrannical plans for world domination.

If he is the last Pope, then time is very short. We should begin to see strong delusion in the near future. The true and false professed Churches of Christ, are here until the end. If or when either ends, so will this world. As our Lord has predicted. Amen.

 







I think Satan will cause worldwide events to cause it the step in to do his work..

Amo

I agree, but he can do nothing which God does not allow him to do, when He allows him to do it.

Rella


Cathlodox

There will be no "Sunday Law", realize that more Catholics go to Church on Saturday every week than exist SDA's. That's right, more Catholics go to Church each Saturday than exist SDA's. It's not reasonable to believe the Catholic Church will outlaw worshipping Christ as God on Saturday.

The SDA Sunday Law shibboleth also conveniently Ignores the Tewahedo Church which in addition to assembling together on Sunday also meet every Saturday.

Circulating falsehoods about the Catholic Church someday requiring everyone in the world (Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Ect.) to pay homage to the beast is like claiming David Koresh was a true prophet because he made a prophecy about the beast power coming to get him and the Davidians.

 

Amo

Quote from: Rella on Tue May 21, 2024 - 15:22:55Would a Sunday law stop you from you Sabbath observance?

No. It would perhaps create a burden by hindering the use of the day to accomplish tasks which cannot be performed or completed on work days. Not to mention a competition burden for companies owned and or operated by seventh day sabbath keepers, in losing another day of revenue. Nevertheless, the main problem would be of course the continued nullification of our Constitutional government and or rights.

QuoteFirst Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Then there is the question of what would be done to the offenders of such a law. History has a testimony to share regarding such, which is not pretty.

Amo

Quote from: Cathlodox on Wed May 22, 2024 - 08:01:43There will be no "Sunday Law", realize that more Catholics go to Church on Saturday every week than exist SDA's. That's right, more Catholics go to Church each Saturday than exist SDA's. It's not reasonable to believe the Catholic Church will outlaw worshipping Christ as God on Saturday.

The SDA Sunday Law shibboleth also conveniently Ignores the Tewahedo Church which in addition to assembling together on Sunday also meet every Saturday.

Circulating falsehoods about the Catholic Church someday requiring everyone in the world (Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Ect.) to pay homage to the beast is like claiming David Koresh was a true prophet because he made a prophecy about the beast power coming to get him and the Davidians.

Yea, you are a little late in the game to be taken seriously, but by the ignorant and or willingly ignorant. Roman Catholic inspired Sunday laws have been created and on the books now, for at least 1700 years. During the dark ages, the Catholic Church outlawed, persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and murdered millions that would not bow to the dictates of the first beast she rode. Which was the Holy Roman Empire. Since that time she has signed accords with and or supported several tyrannical and abusive forms of government, and has close and even secret relations with several at present as well.

Nevertheless, all can see and easily understand that there is an ever growing number and element of humanity, who do not let facts get in the way of their delusional pursuits. As you have just clearly demonstrated in your above statement. 

Pope Gregory I (AD 590-604) said :
Quote"Gregory, bishop by the grace of God to his well-beloved sons, the Roman citizens: It has come to me that certain men of perverse spirit have disseminated among you things depraved and opposed to the holy faith, so that they forbid anything to be done on the day of the Sabbath. What shall I call them except preachers of anti-Christ?." Epistles of Gregory I, b.13, epist.1, found in Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers.


The Synod of Laodicea - 343-381 A.D. - furnishes a decree which is quoted by many:
Quote"Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday [Sabbatum is always used for the Sabbath and is translated Saturday in the English edition of Hefele], but shall work on that day; but the Lord's-day they shall especially honor, and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing they shall be shut out from Christ. (Canon 29, Hefele, Vol. 2, p. 316.)

The following is from the CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

QuoteSunday- fulfillment of the sabbath
2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:[107]
Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death.[108]

2176 The celebration of Sunday observes the moral commandment inscribed by nature in the human heart to render to God an outward, visible, public, and regular worship "as a sign of his universal beneficence to all."[109] Sunday worship fulfills the moral command of the Old Covenant, taking up its rhythm and spirit in the weekly celebration of the Creator and Redeemer of his people.

A day of grace and rest from work
2184 Just as God "rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done,"[121] human life has a rhythm of work and rest. The institution of the Lord's Day helps everyone enjoy adequate rest and leisure to cultivate their familial, cultural, social, and religious lives.[122]

2185 On Sundays and other holy days of obligation, the faithful are to refrain from engaging in work or activities that hinder the worship owed to God, the joy proper to the Lord's Day, the performance of the works of mercy, and the appropriate relaxation of mind and body.[123] Family needs or important social service can legitimately excuse from the obligation of Sunday rest. The faithful should see to it that legitimate excuses do not lead to habits prejudicial to religion, family life, and health.
The charity of truth seeks holy leisure- the necessity of charity accepts just work.[124]

2186 Those Christians who have leisure should be mindful of their brethren who have the same needs and the same rights, yet cannot rest from work because of poverty and misery. Sunday is traditionally consecrated by Christian piety to good works and humble service of the sick, the infirm, and the elderly. Christians will also sanctify Sunday by devoting time and care to their families and relatives, often difficult to do on other days of the week. Sunday is a time for reflection, silence, cultivation of the mind, and meditation which furthers the growth of the Christian interior life.

2187 Sanctifying Sundays and holy days requires a common effort. Every Christian should avoid making unnecessary demands on others that would hinder them from observing the Lord's Day. Traditional activities (sport, restaurants, etc.), and social necessities (public services, etc.), require some people to work on Sundays, but everyone should still take care to set aside sufficient time for leisure. With temperance and charity the faithful will see to it that they avoid the excesses and violence sometimes associated with popular leisure activities. In spite of economic constraints, public authorities should ensure citizens a time intended for rest and divine worship. Employers have a similar obligation toward their employees.

2188 In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church's holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country's legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this "festal gathering," this "assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven."[125]

IN BRIEF
2189 "Observe the sabbath day, to keep it holy" (Deut 5:12). "The seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord" (Ex 31:15).

2190 The sabbath, which represented the completion of the first creation, has been replaced by Sunday which recalls the new creation inaugurated by the Resurrection of Christ.

2191 The Church celebrates the day of Christ's Resurrection on the "eighth day," Sunday, which is rightly called the Lord's Day (cf. SC 106).

2192 "Sunday . . . is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church" (CIC, can. 1246 # 1). "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass" (CIC, can. 1247).

2193 "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound . . . to abstain from those labors and business concerns which impede the worship to be rendered to God, the joy which is proper to the Lord's Day, or the proper relaxation of mind and body" (CIC, can. 1247).

2194 The institution of Sunday helps all "to be allowed sufficient rest and leisure to cultivate their amilial, cultural, social, and religious lives" (GS 67 # 3).

2195 Every Christian should avoid making unnecessary demands on others that would hinder them from observing the Lord's Day.


The following quotes are from the APOSTOLIC LETTER DIES DOMINI by John Paul II

Chap. 1
8.............The People of God are called to enter into this same rest by persevering in Christ's example of filial obedience (cf. Heb 4:3-16). In order to grasp fully the meaning of Sunday, therefore, we must re-read the great story of creation and deepen our understanding of the theology of the "Sabbath".

13. The Sabbath precept, which in the first Covenant prepares for the Sunday of the new and eternal Covenant, is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why, unlike many other precepts, it is set not within the context of strictly cultic stipulations but within the Decalogue, the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of the moral life inscribed on the human heart.

14. In the first place, therefore, Sunday is the day of rest because it is the day "blessed" by God and "made holy" by him, set apart from the other days to be, among all of them, "the Lord's Day".

18..............In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord's Day is recovered, perfected and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the Risen Christ (cf. 2 Cor 4:6). We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini becomes the dies Christi!

Chap.2
23. It was this newness which the catechesis of the first centuries stressed as it sought to show the prominence of Sunday relative to the Jewish Sabbath. It was on the Sabbath that the Jewish people had to gather in the synagogue and to rest in the way prescribed by the Law. The Apostles, and in particular Saint Paul, continued initially to attend the synagogue so that there they might proclaim Jesus Christ, commenting upon "the words of the prophets which are read every Sabbath" (Acts 13:27). Some communities observed the Sabbath while also celebrating Sunday. Soon, however, the two days began to be distinguished ever more clearly, in reaction chiefly to the insistence of those Christians whose origins in Judaism made them inclined to maintain the obligation of the old Law.


Chap.4
59....................More than a "replacement" for the Sabbath, therefore, Sunday is its fulfilment, and in a certain sense its extension and full expression in the ordered unfolding of the history of salvation, which reaches its culmination in Christ.


62. It is the duty of Christians therefore to remember that, although the practices of the Jewish Sabbath are gone, surpassed as they are by the "fulfilment" which Sunday brings, the underlying reasons for keeping "the Lord's Day" holy — inscribed solemnly in the Ten Commandments — remain valid, though they need to be reinterpreted in the light of the theology and spirituality of Sunday: "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you. Six days you shall labour, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. Then you shall do no work, you, or your son, or your daughter, or your servant, or your maid, or your ox, or your ass, or any of your beasts, or the foreigner within your gates, that your servant and maid may rest as well as you. You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God commanded that you keep the Sabbath day" (Dt 5:12-15). Here the Sabbath observance is closely linked with the liberation which God accomplished for his people.


63. Christ came to accomplish a new "exodus", to restore freedom to the oppressed. He performed many healings on the Sabbath (cf. Mt 12:9-14 and parallels), certainly not to violate the Lord's Day, but to reveal its full meaning: "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mk 2:27). Opposing the excessively legalistic interpretation of some of his contemporaries, and developing the true meaning of the biblical Sabbath, Jesus, as "Lord of the Sabbath" (Mk 2:28), restores to the Sabbath observance its liberating character, carefully safeguarding the rights of God and the rights of man. This is why Christians, called as they are to proclaim the liberation won by the blood of Christ, felt that they had the authority to transfer the meaning of the Sabbath to the day of the Resurrection. The Passover of Christ has in fact liberated man from a slavery more radical than any weighing upon an oppressed people — the slavery of sin, which alienates man from God, and alienates man from himself and from others, constantly sowing within history the seeds of evil and violence.

Amo

Quote"One the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost. (Given the 7th day of March, Crispus and Constantine being consuls each of them the second time." Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3; translated in History of the Christian Church, Philip Schaff, D.D., (7-vol.ed.) Vol. III, p.380. New York, 1884

The Synod of Laodicea - 343-381 A.D. - furnishes a decree which is quoted by many:
"Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday [Sabbatum is always used for the Sabbath and is translated Saturday in the English edition of Hefele], but shall work on that day; but the Lord's-day they shall especially honor, and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing they shall be shut out from Christ. (Canon 29, Hefele, Vol. 2, p. 316.)

The following are quotes from the book - SUNDAY LEGISLATION,  ITS HISTORY TO THE PRESENT TIME AND ITS RESULTS,  Abram Herbert Lewis, D. D., LL. D., Copyright, 1888, 1902,  By D. APPLETON AND COMPANY

QuoteNothing appears in the line of Sunday legisla-
tion after this edict of July, 321, for sixty-five years.
In 386 A. D., under the joint rule of Gratianus,
Valentinianus, and Theodosius, legislation is taken
up in which there is slight commingling of the
*' Lord's day " element with the pagan element.
The evils rising from the degrading public shows
seem to have interfered with the administration
of justice, and to have corrupted the character of
the civil judges. Hence, the first law in the year
386 A. D. is as follows :

The three august emperors, Gratianus, Valentinianus,
and Theodosius, to Rufinus, pretorian prefect :

I. Let no one of the judges be free to attend either
theatrical representations, or the contests of the circus,
or the courses of the wild beasts, except on those days
only on which we were born, or obtained the scepter of
the government, and on those days let them observe the
festival only before noon, but after dinner let them re-
frain from returning to the show.

Yet all, whether judges or private persons, shall un-
derstand that in the show no reward in gold shall at all
be given, this being lawful only to the consuls to whom
we have granted the management of expending public
funds.

II. We also give this admonition, that no one shall
offend against the law just promulgated, nor exhibit any
show to the people on the day of the sun, nor commingle
divine worship with the completed festival (blood of slain
beasts).

Dated the thirteenth before the calends of June, at
Heraclea, in the consulship of most noble, pious Hono-
rius, and most distinguished Euodius (386).

" Codex Theo.," lib. xv, tit. v, lex 2.

Later in the same year, and by the same em-
perors, we have the following legislation, in which
the term *' Lord's day " appears for the first time
in the civil legislation of the empire, combined in
such a way with the sun's day, as to include both
the pagan conception and the resurrection-festival
idea, which had become engrafted upon the pagan-
ized Christianity of the time. The law is as fol-
lows :

On the day of the sun, properly called the Lord's
day by our ancestors, let there be a cessation of law-
suits, business, and indictments ; let no one exact a debt
due either the state or an individual ; let there be no
cognizance of disputes, not even by arbitrators, whether
appointed by the courts or voluntarily chosen. And let
him not only be adjudged notorious, but also impious
who shall turn aside from an institute and rite of holy
religion.

Published the third before the nones of November,
Under the Roman Empire, at Aquilia ; approved
at Rome the eighth before the calends of December,
in the consulship of most noble, pious Honorius,
and most illustrious Euodius (386).

" Codex Theo.," lib. viii, tit. viii, lex 3.


The three august emperors, Valentinianus, Theodo-
sius, and Arcadius, to Proculus, prefect of the city :

The games of the circus should be prevented on the
festive days of the sun, in order that no gathering for
shows may turn away the attendance from the venerable
mysteries of the Christian religion, except on the natal
days of our grace.

Dated the fifteenth before the calends of May, at
Constantinople, in the consulship of the august Arca-
dius and Rufinus (392).


The two august emperors, Arcadius and Honorius,
to Aurelianus, pretorian prefect :

On the Lord's day, which derives its name from the
respect due it, let there be no celebration of theatrical
sports, nor races of horses, nor any shows in any city,
which are found to enervate the mind. But the natal
days of the emperors, even if they fall on the Lord's
day, may be celebrated.

Dated the first of September, at Constantinople, in
the consulship of most illustrious Theodosius (399).

" Codex Theo.," lib. ii, tit. viii, lex 23.


On the Lord's day, commonly called the day of the
sun, we do not at all allow the exhibition of any shows,
although perchance the dawn of our empire appeared on
that day in the yearly cycle, or the festivities due to our
birthday are deferred.

Dated the ist of April at Ravenna, in the consulship
of the august Honorius VIII and the august Theodosius
HI (409).

" Codex Theo.," lib. ii, tit. viii, lex 25.


The august emperors, Theodosius and Valentinianus,
to Asclepiodotus, pretorian prefect :

On the Lord's day, which is the first day of the whole
week, and on the days of the nativity and the Epiphany
of Christ, and also on the days of Pentecost and of
Easter, as long as the celestial light and the (white) gar-
ments testify of the new light of sacred baptism (in our
souls) ; at which time also the memory of the passion of
the apostles, the supreme teachers of Christianity, is
rightly celebrated by all ; all the pleasure of the theatres  and of the circus throughout all cities, being denied to  the people of the same, let the minds of all faithful  Christians be employed in the worship of God. If any, even now, through the madness of Jewish impiety or the
error and folly of dull paganism are kept away, let them
learn that there is one time for prayer and another for
pleasure. Let no one think himself compelled, as by a
great necessity, in honor of our power or imperial office,
lest he exalt the work of the shows to the contempt of
divine religion ; neither let him fear that he will come
under the condemnation of our highness, if he shall
show less of devotion to us than is customary ; and let
no one wonder because reverence is then turned away
from our excellency, human born, to God the omnipotent
and deserving, to whom the allegiance of the whole world
ought to be paid.

Given at Constantinople, February ist (425).

'' Codex Theo.," lib. xv, tit. v, lex 5.


The august emperors, Leo and Anthemis, to Arma-
sius, pretorian prefect :

We wish the festal days dedicated to the Majesty
Most High, to be employed in no voluptuous pleasures,
and profaned by no vexatious exactions.

I. Therefore we decree that the Lord's day shall
always be so held in honor and veneration, that it shall
be free fom all prosecutions, that no chastisement shall
be inflicted upon any one, that no bail shall be exacted,
that public service shall cease, that advocacy shall
be laid aside, that this day shall be free from judicial
investigations, that the shrill voice of the crier shall
cease, that litigants shall have rest from their dis-
putes, and have time for compromise, that antagonists
shall come together without fear, that a vicarious re-
pentance may pervade their minds, that they may confer
concerning settlements and talk over terms of agree-
ment. But, though giving ourselves up to rest on this
religious day, we do not suffer any one to be engaged in
impure pleasures. On this day the scenes of the theatre
should make no claim for themselves, neither the games
of the circus nor the tearful shows of the wild beasts;
and if the celebration should happen to fall on our birth-
day it may be postponed. He shall suffer the loss of his
office and the confiscation of his estate, who shall
attend the games on this festal day, or shall, as a public
servant, under pretense of public or private business,
cause these enactments to be treated with contempt.

Dated, December 13, at Constantinople, Zeno and
Martianus being consuls (469).

" Codex Justin," lib. iii, tit. xii, lex 11.


"Under Clodoveus, king of France, met the bishops in the first council of Orleans [A.D. 507], where they obliged themselves and their successors to be always at the church on the Lord's day, except in case of sickness or some great infirmity. And because they, with some other of the clergy in those days, took cognizance of judicial matters, therefore by a council at Arragon, about the year 518, in the reign of Theodorick, king of the Goths, it was decreed that 'No bishop or other person in holy orders should examine or pass judgment in any civil controversy on the Lord's day."  ( Dialogues on the Lord's Day, pp. 263, 264.)

"The third council of Orleans, A.D. 538, says in its twenty-ninth canon: ' The opinion is spreading amongst the people, that it is wrong to ride, or drive, or cook food, or do anything to the house or the person on the Sunday. But since such opinions are more Jewish than Christian, that shall be lawful in future which has been so to the present time. On the other hand, agricultural labor ought to be laid aside, in order that the people may not be prevented from attending church." (The Lord's Day, p. 58.)

"Labor in the country [on Sunday] was not prohibited till the council of Orleans, A.D. 538. It was thus an institution of the church, as Dr. Palcy has remarked. The earlier Christians met in the morning of that day for prayer and singing hymns, in commemoration of Christ's resurrection, and then went about their usual duties." (Dictionary of Chronology, p. 813, art. Sunday.)

"And because, notwithstanding all this care, the day was not duly observed, the bishops were again summoned to Mascon, a town in Burgundy, by King Gunthrum, and there they framed this canon:

'Notice is taken that Christian people very much neglect and slight the Lord's day, giving themselves, as on other days, to common work, to redress which irreverence, for the future, we warn every Christian who bears not that name in vain, to give ear to our advice, knowing we have a concern on us for your good, and a power to hinder you to do evil. Keep, then, the Lord's day, the day of our new birth." (Dialogues on the Lord's Day, p. 265,)


"About a year forward, there was a council at Narbon, which
forbid all persons of what country or quality soever, to do any servile work on the Lord's day. But if any man presumed to disobey this canon, he was to be fined if a freeman, and if a servant, severely lashed. Or, as Surius represents the penalty in the edict of King Recaredus, which he put out, near the same time, to strengthen the decrees of the council, 'Rich men were to be punished with a loss of a moiety of their estates, and the poorer sort with perpetual banishment,' in the year of grace 590. Another synod was held at Auxerre, a city in Champain, in the reign of Clotair, king of France, where it was decreed... ' that no man should be allowed to plow, nor cart, or do any such thing on the Lord's day."  (Dialogues on the Lord's Day, pp. 265, 266; Hist. Sab., part 2, chap. 4, sec. 7.)

"At Chalons, a city in Burgundy, about the year 654, there was a provincial synod which confirmed 'what had been done by the third council of Orleans, about the observation of the Lord's day, namely, that 'none should plow or reap, or do any other thing belonging to husbandry, on pain of the censures of the church; which was the more minded, because backed with the secular power, and by an edict menacing such as offended herein; who, if bondmen, were to be soundly beaten, but if free, had three admonitions, and then if faulty, lost the third part of their patrimony, and if still obstinate, were made slaves for the future. And in the first year of Eringius, about the time of Pope Agatho, there sat the twelfth council of Toledo in Spain, A.D. 681, where the Jews were forbidden to keep their own festivals, but so far at least observe the Lord's day as to do no manner of work on it, whereby they might express their contempt of Christ or his worship."  (Dialogues on the Lord's Day, p. 267.)

A.D. 692. "Ina, king of the West Saxons, by the advice of Conred his father, and Heddes and Erkenwald his bishops, with all his aldermen and sages, in a great assembly of the servants of God, for the health of their souls, and common preservation of the kingdom, made several constitutions, of which this was the third: 'If a servant do any work on Sunday by his master's order, he shall be free, and the master pay thirty shillings; but if he went to work on his own head, he shall be either beaten with stripes, or ransom himself with a price. A freeman, if he works on this day, shall lose his freedom, or pay sixty shillings; if he be a priest, double." ( Dialogues, etc., p. 283.)

"If any bishop or other clergyman, or any of the laity, absented himself from the church three Sundays together, except in cases of very great necessity, if a clergyman, he was to be deposed; if a layman, debarred the holy communion."(Dialogues., p. 268.)

"If any man shall work his cart on this day, or do any such
common business, his team shall be presently forfeited to the public use; and if the party persists in his folly, let him be sold for a bondman." (Dialogues, etc., p. 268.)

A.D. 784. "Egbert, archbishop of York, to show positively what was to be done on Sundays, and what the laws designed by prohibiting ordinary work to be done on such days, made this canon: ' Let nothing else, saith he, be done on the Lord's day, but to attend on God in hymns and psalms and spiritual songs. Whoever marries on Sunday, let him do penance for seven days." (Dialogues, p. 284.)

"They entreated the help of the secular power, and desired the emperor [Charlemagne] to provide for the stricter observation of it [Sunday]. Which he accordingly did, and left no stone unturned to secure the honor of the day. His care succeeded; and during his reign, the Lord's day bore a considerable figure. But after his day, it put on another face."  ( Dialogues, etc., p. 270.)

"But these paternal admonitions turning to little account, a provincial council was held at Paris three years after,... in 829, wherein the prelates complain that 'the Lord's day was not kept with reverence as became religion,... which was the reason that God had sent several judgments on them, and in a very remarkable manner punished some people for slighting and abusing it. For, say they, many of us by our own knowledge, and some by hearsay, know that several countrymen, following their husbandry on this day, have been killed with lightning; others, being seized with convulsions in their joints, have miserably perished. Whereby it is apparent how high the displeasure of God was upon their neglect of this day.' And at last they conclude that 'in the first place the priests and ministers, then kings and princes, and all faithful people, be beseeched to use their utmost endeavors and care that the day be restored 'to its honor, and, for the credit of Christianity, more devoutly observed for the time to come." ( Dialogues, etc., p. 271; Hist. Sab., part 2, chap. 5, sec. 7.)

"Where it was ordered more precisely than in former times that no man should from thenceforth dare to make any markets on the Lord's day, no, not for things that were to eat; neither to do any kind of work that belonged to husbandry. Which canon being made at Rome, confirmed at Compeigne, and afterwards incorporated, as it was, into the body of the canon law, became to be admitted, without further question, in most parts of Christendom, especially when the popes had attained their height, and brought all Christian princes to be at their devotion. For then the people, who before had most opposed it, might have justly said, 'Behold, two kings stood not before him, how then shall we stand? ' Out of which consternation all men presently obeyed, tradesmen of all sorts being brought to lay by their labors; and amongst those, the miller, though his work was easiest, and least of all required his presence."  ( Hist. Sab., part 2, chap. 5, sec. 7; Morer, p. 272. )

"In this century the Emperor [of Constantinople] Leo, surnamed the philosopher, restrained the works of husbandry, which, according to Constantine's toleration, were permitted in the East. The same care was taken in the West by Theodorius, king of the Bavarians, who made this order, that 'If any person on the Lord's day yoked his oxen, or drove his wain, his right-side ox should be forthwith forfeited; or if he made hay and carried it in, he was to be twice admonished to desist, which if he did not, he was to receive no less than fifty stripes." ( Dialogues, etc., pp. 261,262. )

A.D. 876. "Alfred the Great was the first who united the Saxon heptarchy, and it was not the least part of his care to make a law that, among other festivals, this day more especially might be solemnly kept, because it was the day whereon our Savior Christ overcame the devil; meaning Sunday, which is the weekly memorial of our Lord's resurrection, whereby he overcame death, and him who had the power of death, that is the devil. And whereas, before, the single punishment for sacrilege committed on any other day was to restore the value of the thing stolen, and withal lose one hand, he added that if any person was found guilty of this crime done on the Lord's day, he should be doubly punished." ( Dialogues, pp. 284, 285. )

"King Athelston,... in the year 928, made a law that there should be no marketing or civil pleadings on the Lord's day, under the penalty of forfeiting the commodity, besides a fine of thirty shillings for each offense." ( Dialogues, etc., p. 285.)

"In the same year [1201], Eustace, abbot of Flaye, returned to England, and preaching therein the word of the Lord from city to city, and from place to place, forbade any person to hold a market of goods on sale upon the Lord's day. For he said that the commandment under-written, as to the observance of the Lord's day, had come down from heaven: —

"THE HOLY COMMANDMENT AS TO THE LORD'S DAY,
Which came from heaven to Jerusalem, and was found upon the
altar of Saint Simeon, in Golgotha, where Christ was crucified for the sins of the world. The Lord sent down this epistle, which was found upon the altar of Saint Simeon, and after looking upon which three days and three nights, some men fell upon the earth, imploring mercy of God: And after the third hour, the patriarch arose, and Acharias the archbishop, and they opened the scroll, and received the holy epistle from God. And when they had taken the same, they found this writing therein: —

"'I am the Lord who commanded you to observe the holy day of the Lord, and ye have not kept it, and have not repented of your sins, as I have said in my gospel, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." Whereas, I caused to be preached unto you repentance and amendment of life, you did not believe me, I have sent against you the pagans, who have shed your blood on the earth; and yet you have not believed; and because you did not keep the Lord's day holy, for a few days you suffered hunger, but soon I gave you fullness, and after that you did still worse again. Once more, it is my will, that; no one, from the ninth hour on Saturday until sunrise on Monday, shall do any work except that which is good.

"'And if any person shall do so, he shall with penance make
amends for the same. And if you do not pay obedience to this command, verily I say unto you, and I swear unto you, by my scat, and by my throne, and by the cherubim who watch my holy seat, that I will give you my commands by no other epistle, but I will open the heavens, and for rain I will rain upon you stones, and wood, and hot water in the night, that no one may take precautions against the same, and that so I may destroy all wicked men.

"'This do I say unto you; for the Lord's holy day, you shall die the death; and for the other festivals of my saints which you have not kept: I will send unto you beasts that have the heads of lions, the hair of women, the tails of camels, and they shall be so ravenous that they shall devour your flesh, and yea shall long to flee away to the tombs of the dead, and to hide yourselves for fear of the beasts; and I will take away the light of the sun from before your eyes, and will send darkness upon you, that not seeing, you may slay one another, and that I may remove from you my face, and may not show mercy upon you. For I will burn the bodies and the hearts of you, and of all those who do not keep as holy the day of the Lord.

"'Hear ye my voice, that so ye may not perish in the land, for the holy day of the Lord. Depart from evil, and show repentance for your sins, For, if you do not do so, even as Sodom and Gomorrah shall you perish. Now, know ye, that you are saved by the prayers of my most holy mother, Mary, and of my most holy angels, who pray for you daily. I have given unto you wheat and wine in abundance, and for the same ye have not obeyed me. For the widows and orphans cry unto you daily, and unto them you show no mercy. The pagans show mercy, but you show none at all. The trees which bear fruit, I will cause to be dried up for your sins; the rivers and the fountains shall not give water.

"'I gave unto you a law in Mount Sinai, which you have not kept. I gave you a law with mine own hands, which you have not observed. For you [was born into the world, and my festive day ye knew not. Being wicked men, ye have not kept the Lord's day of my resurrection. By my right hand I swear unto you, that if you do not observe the Lord's day, and the festivals of my saints, I will send unto you the pagan nations, that they may slay you. And still do you attend to the business of others, and take no consideration of this? For this will I send against you still worse beasts, who shall devour the breasts of your women. I will curse those who on the Lord's day have wrought evil.

"'Those who act unjustly towards their brethren, will I curse. Those who judge unrighteously the poor and the orphans upon the earth, will I curse. For me you forsake, and you follow the prince of this world: Give heed to my voice, and you shall have the blessing of mercy. But you cease not from your bad works, nor from the works of the devil. Because you are guilty of per-juries and adulteries, therefore the nations shall surround you, and shall, like beasts, devour you.'" ( Hoveden, vol. 2, pp. 526-528. )

Matthew Paris relates the return of the abbot Eustachius (as he spells the name) from Normandy, and gives us a copy of the roll which he brought, and an account of its fall from heaven, as related by the abbot himself. He also tells us how the abbot came by it, tracing the history of the roll from the point when the patriarch gathered courage to take it into his hands, till the time when our abbot was commissioned to bring it into England. Thus he says: —

"But when the patriarch and clergy of all the holy land had
diligently examined the contents of this epistle, it was decreed in a general deliberation that the epistle should be sent to the judgment of the Roman pontiff, seeing that whatever he decreed to be done, would please all. And when at length the epistle had come to the knowledge of the lord pope, immediately he ordained heralds, who, being sent through different parts of the world, preached everywhere the doctrine of this epistle, the Lord working with them and confirming their words by signs following. Among whom the abbot of Flay, Eustachius by name, a devout and learned man, having entered the kingdom of England, did there shine with many miracles." ( Matthew Paris's Historia Major, p. 201. )

"To that end it was again produced and read in a council of
Scotland, held under [pope] Innocent III.,... A.D. 1203, in the reign of King William, who... passed it into a law that Saturday from twelve at noon ought to be accounted holy, and that no man shall deal in such worldly business as on feast-days were forbidden. As also that at the toiling of a bell, the people were to be employed in holy actions, going to sermons and the like, and to continue thus until Monday morning, a penalty being laid on those who did the
contrary. About the year 1214, which was eleven years after, it was again enacted, in a parliament at Scone, by Alexander III., king of the Scots, that none should fish in any waters from Saturday after evening prayer till sunrise on Monday, which was afterward confirmed by King James I. ( Dialogues, etc., pp. 290, 291. )

"In the year 1237, Henry III. being king, and Edmund de Abendon archbishop of Canterbury, a, constitution was made, requiring every minister to forbid his parishioners the frequenting of markets on the Lord's day, and leaving the church, where they ought to meet and spend the day in prayer and hearing the word of God. And this on pain of excommunication." ( Dialogues, etc., p. 291. )

"The council of Lyons sat about the year 1244, and it restrained the people from their ordinary work on the Lord's day and other festivals, on pain of ecclesiastical censures."

A.D. 1282. The council of Angeirs in France "forbid millers by water or otherwise to grind their corn from Saturday evening till Sunday evening." ( Dialogues., p. 275. )

A.D. 1327, This year "a synod was called at Valladolid in Castile, and then was ratified what was formerly required, that 'none should follow husbandry, or exercise himself in any mechanical employment, on the Lord's day or other holy days, but where it was a work of necessity or charity, of which the minister of the parish was to be judge.'"  Id.

A.D. 1588. "Let the people assemble at their parish churches on the Lord's day and other holidays, and be present at mass, sermons, and vespers. Let no man on these days give himself to plays or dances, especially during service." And the historian adds: "In the same year another synod at Tours ordered the Lord's day and other holidays to be reverently observed under pain of excommunication." ( Morer, p. 280. )

A.D. 1584. "Let all Christians remember that the seventh day was consecrated by God, and hath been received and observed, not only by the Jews, but by all others who pretend to worship God; though we Christians have changed their Sabbath into the Lord's day. A day therefore to be kept, by forbearing all worldly business, snits, contracts, carriages, etc., and by sanctifying the rest of mind and body, in the contemplation of God and things divine, we are to do nothing but works of charity, say prayers, and sing psalms." ( Morer, pp. 281, 282. )

Cathlodox

Amo,

SDA's would have more to fear about Sasquatch (Bigfoot) causing a global Sunday law than the Catholic Church.

Amo

Quote from: Cathlodox on Sat Jul 06, 2024 - 10:55:56Amo,

SDA's would have more to fear about Sasquatch (Bigfoot) causing a global Sunday law than the Catholic Church.

Of course not. No reason to suspect that an institution whose leaders increasingly call for a global government and economic regulatory system, would actually ever desire such. Nor the recognition of Sundays as legal holidays, by such global authorities, simply because they continuously teach and preach along such lines. Having been responsible for many a Sunday law throughout the past, supporting recent ones as well, and maintaining support for such in the Catechism.

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, emphasis is mine.

Quote2188 In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church's holy days as legal holidays. They have to give everyone a public example of prayer, respect, and joy and defend their traditions as a precious contribution to the spiritual life of society. If a country's legislation or other reasons require work on Sunday, the day should nevertheless be lived as the day of our deliverance which lets us share in this "festal gathering," this "assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven."[125]

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