There is only marriage ...or remaining unmarried.
No dating, no sleeping around which is fornication.
In fact Jesus and Paul say its better to remain unmarried
Matt 19:12
For there are some eunuchs, who were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, who were made eunuchs of men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
1 Corinthians 7:8
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
However
And if you do decide that you cannot contain
1 Corinthians 7:9
But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
If you are to get married, you have one chance. One marriage only. If you divorce you cannot get remarried.
Matt 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matt 19 8-9
8 Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."
If you have been told otherwise, you've been told a lie.
And if you are in a second or more marriage...
You are in an adulterous marriage
I don't.
I won't.
But how is that working out for you?
Are you enjoying single life?
: Billy Notagoat Fri Jan 25, 2019 - 12:08:52If you have been told otherwise, you've been told a lie.
And if you are in a second or more marriage...You are in an adulterous marriage
Not so fast. That may be true, and it may not be true. Would like to debate me on this subject? Btw, been with the same woman for over fifty years, so I do believe that there are very small biblical allowance for remarring WHILE your first spouse is living.
Where does the Bible say that we cant get to know a potential partner by meeting up with them and going out? Cant say I have ever read that in the Bible.
Hard to see how we would ever marry if we didn't do that. In Bible times people were generally married off early, they had little choice, that doesn't happen now, so we do need to make sure we are marrying the right person by getting to know them.
God created Eve for Adam and said that its not good for man to be alone.
God created us as people who marry and have children. Be fruitful and multiply.
If you are called to be single that's fine, most of us aren't.
What kind of dippy half-wit believes "dating" necessarily equates with "fornication"?
: NorrinRadd Fri Jan 25, 2019 - 19:44:39
What kind of dippy half-wit believes "dating" necessarily equates with "fornication"?
those that watch too much TV and movies...
"If you are called to be single that's fine, most of us aren't."
No , it not being "called"
Its being told by both Jesus and Paul in the Scriptures placed in the OP, that it IS better to remain single.
If you CANNOT contain, then yes , it is better to marry then.
: Billy Notagoat Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 11:17:28
"If you are called to be single that's fine, most of us aren't."
No , it not being "called"
Its being told by both Jesus and Paul in the Scriptures placed in the OP, that it IS better to remain single.
If you CANNOT contain, then yes , it is better to marry then.
Read this.
God created Eve for Adam and said that its not good for man to be alone.
God created us as people who marry and have children. Be fruitful and multiply.
Marriage is Gods idea, and His intention was always for a man and a woman to be one and have children.
If you think that the single life is for you thats great, but of course we would have all died out if everyone remained single.
No where in the Bible are we told that we cannot get to know the person we are to marry. As long as we don't have sex, dating is important.
Jesus never said that its better to remain single.
You wont be able to use any part of the bible to contradict Jesus .
Jesus says if you reject him , you reject God
1 John 2: 23
: Billy Notagoat Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 11:35:43
You wont be able to use any part of the bible to contradict Jesus .
Jesus says if you reject him , you reject God
1 John 2: 23
You're correct, we cannot contradict Jesus. The good thing is that Jesus never condemned dating so contradicting is unnecessary.
: Alan Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 11:37:52
You're correct, we cannot contradict Jesus. The good thing is that Jesus never condemned dating so contradicting is unnecessary.
Exactly my point Alan:-)
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Your focus is on the wrong thing.
Those that follow Jesus have a job to teach all those around the world what Jesus teaches and to obey him.
The world has been lied to and given a false gospel, thinking they do not need to obey Jesus
: Billy Notagoat Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 11:43:02
Your focus is on the wrong thing.
Those that follow Jesus have a job to teach all those around the world what Jesus teaches and to obey him.
The world has been lied to and given a false gospel, thinking they do not need to obey Jesus
I suggest;
1) you get a better grasp on scripture
2) develop a different method of administering the gospel
3) stop preaching to the choir, you do not know anymore than anyone else here, it is only your personal views that lead you to make ridiculous claims.
Also you can see the post under theology forum , Labeled obedience to Jesus
: Billy Notagoat Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 11:50:55
Also you can see the post under theology forum , Labeled obedience to Jesus
The thing that you are ignoring is that Jesus or God never forbade any sort of dating/getting to know a prospective marriage partner.
You are making that up. Yes we are forbidden from having sex outside marriage, but not to get to know that person in other ways.
Still waiting for you to show us where Jesus says we can go out with someone to get to know them.
: Billy Notagoat Sun Jan 27, 2019 - 11:50:55
Also you can see the post under theology forum , Labeled obedience to Jesus
Jesus is not your puppet, you cannot make him say the things you claim.
@Alan That post posted under the theology forum
Has tons of scripture.
I did not write it nor "Make jesus say anything "
: Billy Notagoat Mon Jan 28, 2019 - 12:37:09
@Alan
That post posted under the theology forum
Has tons of scripture.
I did not write it nor "Make jesus say anything "
Still waiting for those verses.
Waiting for verses on obedience is required ?
http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/obedience-to-jesus-and-his-teachings/