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General Discussion => Forum Issues and User Help => : notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 12:20:34

: For Jaime...
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 12:20:34
who told me not to contact him again....

The difference is obvious.   I was accused of favoring a homosexual for President by someone who has close friendships - including one who is a personal mentor -  with homosexuals.    Next your friend Ginger Rella- that "nice" lady - made a comment about me in bed with Trump.   

Is there a difference in daytime and nighttime?
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 12:46:55
Your comment about a gay couple sleeping in someone's bed is obviously tainted with history, I know nothing about nor do Inwant to. If you and you sworn enemies want to carry on a PM fest have at it, but this crap has got to stop. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU PEOPLE's PAST NOR DOES THE REST OF THE BOARD, so figure out a way to co-exist or I will mute the bunch of you. No skin off my teeth. Get it or get gone! I don't have time for this and I'm shocked if you guys think you do.
: Re: For Jaime...
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:06:05
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 12:46:55
Your comment about a gay couple sleeping in someone's bed is obviously tainted with history, I know nothing about nor do Inwant to. If you and you sworn enemies want to carry on a PM fest have at it, but this crap has got to stop. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU PEOPLE's PAST NOR DOES THE REST OF THE BOARD, so figure out a way to co-exist or I will mute the bunch of you. No skin off my teeth. Get it or get gone! I don't have time for this and I'm shocked if you guys think you do.

I have clocked over a million miles driving plus I have made many trips by air.   I worked for many years and made a living for me. my immediate family, and several other families.   So, don't lecture me, Sonny.   

I never thought of doing the right thing as skin off my teeth.   

I don't need to be here, but I think about what another moderator here told me, and that was that I should not let someone else run me off.   You don't have to referee anything.   I thought you were able to know the difference between right and wrong.   

I should not have to endure people like Ginger Rella saying that her balls are bigger than mine.    She has mentioned the scenario of me in bed with the President.   If those things are fine with you then I'm wasting my time here anyway.   I do post across the forums here and don't come here to start fights.   You gave me your word that you would allow me to post my sentiments about Trump.   You have yet to keep your word.   I had no issues with Ginger Rella but she has created some with me.    Her doing, not mine.   Couldn't you at least do something about her? 
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:28:19
Sonny? When have I stopped you from posting your sentiments about Trump? I didn't promise you would not be confronted about your erroneous feelings about Trump. if I don't have to referee you guy's crap, then act like adults and not 7th graders.

Call or insinuate that I am a liar and you're out of here.
: For Jaime, Alan, and Chosenone
: Ginger Rella Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:44:53
@notreligus said

: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:06:05
I have clocked over a million miles driving plus I have made many trips by air.   I worked for many years and made a living for me. my immediate family, and several other families.   So, don't lecture me, Sonny.   

I never thought of doing the right thing as skin off my teeth. 

I don't need to be here, but I think about what another moderator here told me, and that was that I should not let someone else run me off.   You don't have to referee anything.   I thought you were able to know the difference between right and wrong.   

I should not have to endure people like Ginger Rella saying that her balls are bigger than mine.    She has mentioned the scenario of me in bed with the President.   If those things are fine with you then I'm wasting my time here anyway.   I do post across the forums here and don't come here to start fights.   You gave me your word that you would allow me to post my sentiments about Trump.   You have yet to keep your word.   I had no issues with Ginger Rella but she has created some with me.    Her doing, not mine.   Couldn't you at least do something about her?

No__ts says.

"I never thought of doing the right thing as skin off my teeth. " It would help to do the right thing.

"I should not have to endure people like Ginger Rella saying that her balls are bigger than mine."
Well, wanna meet me out back?  rofl

Notreligus has said one thing I agree with.

I also, do not have to be here.

I am a fiercely loyal person.

To God first.

Then country.

Then President.

Family and friends.

I will not sit idly by and have unexplained  accusations against those I am loyal to go unanswered.

So @Jaime, @Alan, and @chosenone

Shall I leave.

A simple yes or know, right here for all to see,  will suffice.

But I will let all know I will be vocal when I see slander, that I have near witnessed right here on GC.


: Re: For Jaime...
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:57:12
I'll stay out of the Political forum as long as I am not the topic of discussion.

I had stopped posting here for a couple of weeks and then, all of a sudden, I got all of these notifications in my email that I'm being mentioned in political posts.  I had never received such emails before.   I should not be the topic of discussion.  That's not the purpose of a discussion forum, especially a Christian forum.    I don't want to discuss myself or anyone else, and I'm not lying either!
: Re: For Jaime, Alan, and Chosenone
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:59:41
: Ginger Rella  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:44:53
@notreligus said

No__ts says.

"I never thought of doing the right thing as skin off my teeth. " It would help to do the right thing.

"I should not have to endure people like Ginger Rella saying that her balls are bigger than mine."
Well, wanna meet me out back?  rofl

Notreligus has said one thing I agree with.

I also, do not have to be here.

I am a fiercely loyal person.

To God first.

Then country.

Then President.

Family and friends.

I will not sit idly by and have unexplained  accusations against those I am loyal to go unanswered.

So @Jaime, @Alan, and @chosenone

Shall I leave.

A simple yes or know, right here for all to see,  will suffice.

But I will let all know I will be vocal when I see slander, that I have near witnessed right here on GC.

Do you think it's proper that you tell me that your balls are bigger than mine?   You mention the scenario of me in bed with Trump.  That's not at all funny.   

I am not embarrassed to tell these things because they did not originate with me.   
: Re: For Jaime...
: chosenone Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:08:18
People are free to have differing opinions about a countries leader, its happened a lot here about leaders in my own country and I have had to just accept it apparently so you guys can as well.

There is a lot of bad blood between you all, I know the roots of some of it, but not religious is always attacked when he comes here by the same few people. Its not acceptable. Its like being back in the playground. Good people have been driven away by the same few people, and that's very sad.

I never go onto the political forum any more, far too crazy for my liking. Gracecentered has turned into a political forum instead of a Christian one and that's also sad in my opinion.
: Re: For Jaime...
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:18:51
: chosenone  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:08:18
People are free to have differing opinions about a countries leader, its happened a lot here about leaders in my own country and I have had to just accept it apparently so you guys can as well.

There is a lot of bad blood between you all, I know the roots of some of it, but not religious is always attacked when he comes here by the same few people. Its not acceptable. Its like being back in the playground. Good people have been driven away by the same few people, and that's very sad.

I never go onto the political forum any more, far too crazy for my liking. Gracecentered has turned into a political forum instead of a Christian one and that's also sad in my opinion.

Thank you.   And, you are right.  A lot of good people have left and I know that they have left because of the political forum.   
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:23:04
This is not a one side is guilty thing. If anyone is convinced that it is, you are wrong.

I think both sides are due an apology. Who will set the example? Not holding my breath.

If you prefer to stay out of the political forum, then by all means STAY OUT OF THE POLITICAL FORUM, and guard your blood pressure. By the way I don't care how many miles you have flown, driven or crawled.

By the way Chosenone, this is not an attack on Notreligious. It is an appeal for BOTH sides to shut it down. So no need to raise that red herring again.






: Re: For Jaime, Alan, and Chosenone
: Ginger Rella Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:31:06
: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 13:59:41
Do you think it's proper that you tell me that your balls are bigger than mine?   You mention the scenario of me in bed with Trump.  That's not at all funny.   

I am not embarrassed to tell these things because they did not originate with me.

@notreligus.

The only reason you are getting all these notifications is because you blocked me, and I assume others? It is the only way I know to let you know that there is something you should read and comment on or defend.

OK mods....

You can delete this as soon as you want to but I have to reply to this. It may be inappropriate.

"Do you think it's proper that you tell me that your balls are bigger than mine?" rofl rofl rofl

Do you think it appropriate to constantly call me a liar? And when I have asked you what POTUS lies about YOU refuse to answer.

If my balls are bigger then yours, I was raised for self defense. No one ever had my back. So when you attack me and those I will protect... you need to be prepared.

Why is the scenario of you and DT in bed together not funny?

Are you thinking I am accusing you of being gay or bi?  Guaranteed... if I was doing that it would not be Trump I would have put you in bed with. You definitely are not his speed.

You said

"The difference is obvious.   I was accused of favoring a homosexual for President by someone who has close friendships - including one who is a personal mentor -  with homosexuals.    Next your friend Ginger Rella- that "nice" lady - made a comment about me in bed with Trump.   

Is there a difference in daytime and nighttime?"

Did you not go into great explanation of telling us bout clicking something on Twitter about some posts or comments of his?

It is here somewhere but I am not going to waste time trying to find it but you said something like that as explanation as you were not supporting him but......

PLEASE TELL US  how many times you have clicked on anything Donald Trump has tweeted?

I am going to give you a mini education.

YOU are known by the company you keep as well as the tweets you read.

If you are not a supporter of Butthead then have the balls to say so.

As far as you being embarrassed or not..... NO they did not originate with you.

I will go so far as to say notreligus is not now nor has ever been in bed with Donald Trump.

Though it would not surprise me if his secret dream is to be sandwiched between Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters. rofl



: Re: For Jaime...
: Ginger Rella Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:33:10
: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:18:51
Thank you.   And, you are right.  A lot of good people have left and I know that they have left because of the political forum.

And this dastardly evil one is soon going that way herself as soon as all the votes are in.
: Re: For Jaime...
: Ginger Rella Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:35:20
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:23:04
This is not a one side is guilty thing. If anyone is convinced that it is, you are wrong.

I think both sides are due an apology. Who will set the example? Not holding my breath.

I am not Obama.
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:46:10
Didn't say you were. All I am saying is from the outside this situation is not a one sided thing.

I know I am definitely sorry for any involvement I have had in this 7th grade dustup. We are all the dumber for having witnessed it.
: Re: For Jaime...
: Ginger Rella Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 15:12:18
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:46:10
Didn't say you were. All I am saying is from the outside this situation is not a one sided thing.

I know I am definitely sorry for any involvement I have had in this 7th grade dustup. We are all the dumber for having witnessed it.

OK Jaime

Testosterone has won.

It is best if I be gone for a while, or maybe forever....?

That will make your mods lives easier....

It should thrill Lee... @notreligus won't have to contact him anymore.

And @notreligus will certainly breathe easier knowing no one will counter his attacks.

I would just ask you and the other mods to please watch out for the personal attack comments that are coming more often and I am not referring to those against POTUS.

: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 16:15:29
I would be in favor of no one leaving, but let us all drop the 7th grade drama. I wasn't good at it 54 years ago.

If someone insists on trashing Trump, you WILL be opposed. If others want to trash Obama or Hillary we should expect to be opposed. we all need to learn to accept the results of elections.
: Re: For Jaime...
: AVZ Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 18:38:11
: chosenone  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:08:18
People are free to have differing opinions about a countries leader, its happened a lot here about leaders in my own country and I have had to just accept it apparently so you guys can as well.

There is a lot of bad blood between you all, I know the roots of some of it, but not religious is always attacked when he comes here by the same few people. Its not acceptable. Its like being back in the playground. Good people have been driven away by the same few people, and that's very sad.

I never go onto the political forum any more, far too crazy for my liking. Gracecentered has turned into a political forum instead of a Christian one and that's also sad in my opinion.

I think it is a US thing. Europeans seem to be far better in accepting that different people have different opinions.
I have never seen a bigger divide in US society as today. You are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump and must defend your position aggressively as the other side is willing to bash your head in.
Families split and friendships are ended because one picked the "wrong" side.

Unfortunately you are in a tough spot because you are not allowed to say anything about Trump, but the other way around there is no limitation to what Trump supporters may say about your leadership.

As I said it's a US thing. I think Americans find it difficult to keep opinion and acceptance separated.
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 18:57:48
I think it is more a thing about foreigners thinking they are superior to Americans. It's OK to join in condemning the dolt Trump, but don't EVEN think about speaking badly of my leader. That would be brutish! Just my observation.
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:10:45
: AVZ  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 18:38:11
I think it is a US thing. Europeans seem to be far better in accepting that different people have different opinions.
I have never seen a bigger divide in US society as today. You are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump and must defend your position aggressively as the other side is willing to bash your head in.
Families split and friendships are ended because one picked the "wrong" side.

Unfortunately you are in a tough spot because you are not allowed to say anything about Trump, but the other way around there is no limitation to what Trump supporters may say about your leadership.

As I said it's a US thing. I think Americans find it difficult to keep opinion and acceptance separated.

Meh. I've lost two friends over my support for Trump, and you know what that support was? I rarely do facebook and use it for health groups and messaging. On inauguration day, I logged in and posted a photo of President Trump with the caption - "He is my President." Over that, I lost two dear friends. Local friends. Friends that I've had in my home. Both women, and both were Bernie supporters. They cut me totally out of their lives for good. I had kept my mouth shut about being for Trump when I was around them, and knew they were Bernie supporters. They dropped me like a hot potato when I announced my support for him on inauguration day. Sad. I cleaned off the the photo of Trump, and vowed to not post another thing on my wall - and I haven't. I do politics here and at twitter.
I don't see many Trump supporters dropping friends and family for being libs, but I sure have Trump supporter friends who have been dropped by friends and family for supporting him. I have a dear friend in Maine who got dumped by several close friends when they found out he is a Trump supporter. At first, he was cut to the bone. Now he just says - whatever.
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:24:40
I didn't like Trump at first, but now I respect him for working to keep his promises to the voters. Something foreign to Establishment Republicans. I LOVE that he is a fighter and takes no BS. I have no regret about being unfriended by anyone over that. He's not the most polished person by any stretch, but he is NOW the most pro life President in actions and words than anyone else in my memory. I despise with every molecule in my body the not so silent coup that has been wages against this duly elected President. I have no oroblem with legitimate criticism of him, but most of the crap over the last two years is total inmitigated crap, as he is improving the lot for all races and women. I agree with every position he has or that I know of. He is correct on the border crisis. He has no choice but to be a prolific tweeter. Journalism has been dead for over 30 years.
: Re: For Jaime...
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:36:15
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:46:10
Didn't say you were. All I am saying is from the outside this situation is not a one sided thing.

I know I am definitely sorry for any involvement I have had in this 7th grade dustup. We are all the dumber for having witnessed it.

It's not possible for me to apologize.   Ginger Rella sent me another private nasty-gram and bragged about the size of her balls. 
: Re: For Jaime...
: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:40:44
: AVZ  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 18:38:11
I think it is a US thing. Europeans seem to be far better in accepting that different people have different opinions.
I have never seen a bigger divide in US society as today. You are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump and must defend your position aggressively as the other side is willing to bash your head in.
Families split and friendships are ended because one picked the "wrong" side.

Unfortunately you are in a tough spot because you are not allowed to say anything about Trump, but the other way around there is no limitation to what Trump supporters may say about your leadership.

As I said it's a US thing. I think Americans find it difficult to keep opinion and acceptance separated.

I've been keeping up with the Brits for about 25 years.   I have many Brit friends on Facebook.   Their comments reflect the opposite.   They're not getting along at all.  Scots of various political affiliations; Irish - Northern and Republic of Ireland - various political factions; Welsh - various factions; Labour - divided within just like the Conservatives; Conservatives - divided within just like Labour Party; Liberal Democrats; etc. etc.   That's a lot of political factions and I've not mentioned all of them.

Katty Kay summed it up like this:  "We have many in the U.K. who think they are traditional British; the others think they are Europeans."     
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:40:53
: chosenone  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:08:18


I never go onto the political forum any more, far too crazy for my liking.

Rella and I have a bit of fun-loving sass in us, so we like it there, but no - it's not for all women, but that's ok. The world would be pretty boring if we were all alike, no?  Vive la diffĂ©rence!


Gracecentered has turned into a political forum instead of a Christian one and that's also sad in my opinion.

Well, hon, why don't you start some threads that would be helpful instead of just complaining?
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:41:56
: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:36:15
It's not possible for me to apologize.   Ginger Rella sent me another private nasty-gram and bragged about the size of her balls.


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:42:31
Suit yourself NR
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:45:28
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:42:31
Suit yourself NR


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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: notreligus Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:48:41
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:42:31
Suit yourself NR

That comment was not helpful.   

You explain to me how I am supposed to apologize to someone who can't stop bad-mouthing me long enough to have a dialogue? 
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:49:18
: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:36:15
It's not possible for me to apologize.   Ginger Rella sent me another private nasty-gram and bragged about the size of her balls.

Go ahead. Apologize anyway.  ::smile:: 
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:53:20
: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:48:41
That comment was not helpful.   

You explain to me how I am supposed to apologize to someone who can't stop bad-mouthing me long enough to have a dialogue?

Apology doesn't require a long dialogue. Just do it. Apologize to her.  ::smile::

When you're through with that one, do another.  ::smile::
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:55:55
notreligus, I have an apology for you. Do you want it?
: Re: For Jaime...
: Jaime Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 20:16:00
Notreligious, you could heap burning coals of kindness on her head. I read that somewhere!

Would your unmerited kindness make you look bad or her? Would it make you more or less Christ like?
: Re: For Jaime...
: NorrinRadd Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 20:42:12
Ok, once we've established for certain whose balls are bigger, please send me your secret.  Time and xenoestrogens have taken their toll.

(Edited to fix stupid spelling error.  ::frustrated::)
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 20:47:18
: NorrinRadd  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 20:42:12
Ok, once we've established for certain whose balls are bigger, please send my your secret.  Time and xenoestrogens have taken their toll.


rofl rofl rofl rofl  ::cryingtears:: ::cryingtears::  rofl rofl rofl rofl
: Re: For Jaime...
: mommydi Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 20:51:13
: chosenone  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:08:18
Gracecentered has turned into a political forum instead of a Christian one and that's also sad in my opinion.

Hey, I have an idea for a thread starter that you should be able to help us with-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZPBUu7Fro
: Re: For Jaime...
: NorrinRadd Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 02:20:14
: mommydi  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 19:10:45
Meh. I've lost two friends over my support for Trump, and you know what that support was? I rarely do facebook and use it for health groups and messaging. On inauguration day, I logged in and posted a photo of President Trump with the caption - "He is my President." Over that, I lost two dear friends. Local friends. Friends that I've had in my home. Both women, and both were Bernie supporters. They cut me totally out of their lives for good. I had kept my mouth shut about being for Trump when I was around them, and knew they were Bernie supporters. They dropped me like a hot potato when I announced my support for him on inauguration day. Sad. I cleaned off the the photo of Trump, and vowed to not post another thing on my wall - and I haven't. I do politics here and at twitter.
I don't see many Trump supporters dropping friends and family for being libs, but I sure have Trump supporter friends who have been dropped by friends and family for supporting him. I have a dear friend in Maine who got dumped by several close friends when they found out he is a Trump supporter. At first, he was cut to the bone. Now he just says - whatever.

I'm a pretty offensively prolific Trumpian on Facebook.  I remind myself to not get TOO carried away.  Most of my friends are Trumpers, but most of my family members are Dems.  One or two of the minority of anti-Trumpers among my non-family have disappeared from my Friends list.

After both of Obama's elections, those of us on the right were of course displeased -- probably more so after the second election, having seen four years of how he actually governed, as opposed to how he campaigned.  My baby cousin -- about age 30 at the time of the first election -- is a lib.  In victory, it's easy to be cavalier, and her comment was along the lines of, "Oh, these things always swing back and forth, so I don't know why Republicans are so upset."  (I never thought we were "so" upset.)

After The Trumpinator's victory, she was singing -- or more precisely, wailing -- a much different tune.  She posted on Facebook about how she was sitting there holding her new baby and crying, unable to believe there were so many hate-filled people in the country that Trump could get elected.

I refrained from commenting.
: Re: For Jaime...
: chosenone Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 06:38:27
: AVZ  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 18:38:11
I think it is a US thing. Europeans seem to be far better in accepting that different people have different opinions.
I have never seen a bigger divide in US society as today. You are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump and must defend your position aggressively as the other side is willing to bash your head in.
Families split and friendships are ended because one picked the "wrong" side.

Unfortunately you are in a tough spot because you are not allowed to say anything about Trump, but the other way around there is no limitation to what Trump supporters may say about your leadership.

As I said it's a US thing. I think Americans find it difficult to keep opinion and acceptance separated.

You may be right.  I have had to read attacks here on Theresa May and the royal family many times for no good reason.  Sometimes from people who just like to attack anything British/female, or because I dared to say that I wasn't madly keen on Trump as a leader.  That's why I no longer read some peoples posts or go on the political section.  My opinion on Trump has always been that he was slightly better than the alternative, but I found it hard to think that there weren't 2 people in the whole of the USA who weren't far more suited to lead the country than these two. Pence would have been far better in my opinion.

I do see that Trump is almost worshipped by many there, even some on this forum, and that is something we don't usually see here. People here are far more likely to moan about their leaders and blame them for everything than worship them in that sort of way.

I agree that some people there hate anything negative said about Trump, and will react with fury against it, but surely recognising that he has done so many stupid and immoral things isn't wrong? Its fact after all. We have to live in the real world and not in denial.
: Re: For Jaime...
: chosenone Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 06:42:23
: Jaime  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 18:57:48
I think it is more a thing about foreigners thinking they are superior to Americans. It's OK to join in condemning the dolt Trump, but don't EVEN think about speaking badly of my leader. That would be brutish! Just my observation.
That's just not the case.
: Re: For Jaime...
: chosenone Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 06:44:46
: notreligus  Wed Apr 10, 2019 - 14:18:51
Thank you.   And, you are right.  A lot of good people have left and I know that they have left because of the political forum.

There were some who left due to general bad treatment in other parts of the forums. 
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: Jaime Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 08:58:52
: chosenone  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 06:42:23
That's just not the case.

No, it IS the case. I have seen you unilaterally post something negative about Trump, which is your right, but when someone challenged May's abortion stance in response, you accused that as an attack on your country's leader. And played the rude card again. Their challenge was NOT rude. Nor was your criticism of Trump, but it's not OK to criticize Trump and then be appalled when someone criticizes your leader.
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: Jaime Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 09:02:05
I know two people who left because of someone we know who has had a cofc bashing fetish. I'm thick skinned enough to let it roll off. Some are not. This ain't a one sided problem.

And no Trump is not worshipped in this country or this forum. Highly respected yes. Our respect viewed throw the eyes of one with disdain probably appears as worship in comparison to disdain, but no that accusation is totally false and unfair. Even some of Obama's tingle down the leg folks was not worship in the sense you mean.
: Re: For Jaime...
: chosenone Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 10:40:44
: Jaime  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 08:58:52
No, it IS the case. I have seen you unilaterally post something negative about Trump, which is your right, but when someone challenged May's abortion stance in response, you accused that as an attack on your country's leader. And played the rude card again. Their challenge was NOT rude. Nor was your criticism of Trump, but it's not OK to criticize Trump and then be appalled when someone criticizes your leader.
As I said before I see Trump as better than the alternative.  Theresa Mays attempts to reduce the abortion limit were commendable, I believe on that occasion I was talking about the fact that Trump has given several women money to kill their own child after his affairs, which is appalling no matter who did it. Surely anyone with any compassion for the unborn child would see that as wrong.
A few people here have attacked the Uk many times merely because they hate the UK, others have noticed this and pointed it out, and also because they hate women in general. 

BTW I am never appalled at what some here do, I expect that sort of silly immature behaviour which is why I no longer read their posts.
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: Jaime Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 10:57:24
I have zero problem with you Chosen if you would minimize playing the rude card. Rudeness is FAR too subjective to be used often. Is there a case to use it? Yes, but I think you have over played it. I don't want to argue about it. Just my observation.

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: AVZ Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 11:33:38
: chosenone  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 06:38:27
You may be right.  I have had to read attacks here on Theresa May and the royal family many times for no good reason.  Sometimes from people who just like to attack anything British/female, or because I dared to say that I wasn't madly keen on Trump as a leader.  That's why I no longer read some peoples posts or go on the political section.  My opinion on Trump has always been that he was slightly better than the alternative, but I found it hard to think that there weren't 2 people in the whole of the USA who weren't far more suited to lead the country than these two. Pence would have been far better in my opinion.

I do see that Trump is almost worshipped by many there, even some on this forum, and that is something we don't usually see here. People here are far more likely to moan about their leaders and blame them for everything than worship them in that sort of way.

I agree that some people there hate anything negative said about Trump, and will react with fury against it, but surely recognising that he has done so many stupid and immoral things isn't wrong? Its fact after all. We have to live in the real world and not in denial.

Oh, Teresa May and the royal family totally deserve to be attacked. Both May and the family seem to be quite capable of making a mess out of things.
Not your queen though, she's a tough lady...I bet you her balls are bigger than Ginger Rella's

And yeah, I totally agree with you on the Trump comment.
328 Million US citizens...and Trump is what they came up with.
Then again 66 Million UK citizens came up with Teresa May. Not the most shiny example of effective leadership.
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: notreligus Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 11:38:40
Jaime:

As one who grew up with Restoration Churches, their teaching and their Bible colleges, I have a right to state what I think.   I told them in Bible college where I felt they were wrong.  Still had 4.0 GPA after 2 1/2 years.  They respected me. I would suppose I have a larger library of books about the Restoration Movement than anyone else who posts here.   It seems to be alright to bash Calvinists or those who don't believe in Evolution.  A few days ago I posted about the Gospel and used Paul's writings as my source and I was promptly told that what I believed was CRAP!!!   The mods here ought to be more upset over that vs. water baptism, which cannot save and never will save.   I know Restorationists who poke fun at sitting vs. standing and one cup vs. individual.  You that's silly stuff.

I have been called an Abortionist by Texas Conservative, over and over and over again.   I begged the mods to do something.   

Chosenone is not just a female but is a lady and she does not use foul-mouthed language here.    You should have no quarrel with her but should be glad she is here, unless you just don't like women who are ladies and can speak without using vulgarities.   
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: Texas Conservative Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 11:50:00
: notreligus  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 11:38:40
Jaime:

As one who grew up with Restoration Churches, their teaching and their Bible colleges, I have a right to state what I think.   I told them in Bible college where I felt they were wrong.  Still had 4.0 GPA after 2 1/2 years.  They respected me. I would suppose I have a larger library of books about the Restoration Movement than anyone else who posts here.   It seems to be alright to bash Calvinists or those who don't believe in Evolution.  A few days ago I posted about the Gospel and used Paul's writings as my source and I was promptly told that what I believed was CRAP!!!   The mods here ought to be more upset over that vs. water baptism, which cannot save and never will save.   I know Restorationists who poke fun at sitting vs. standing and one cup vs. individual.  You that's silly stuff.

I have been called an Abortionist by Texas Conservative, over and over and over again.   I begged the mods to do something.   

Chosenone is not just a female but is a lady and she does not use foul-mouthed language here.    You should have no quarrel with her but should be glad she is here, unless you just don't like women who are ladies and can speak without using vulgarities.

Your Homie Hank Linderman, who you touted is pro-choice.  You like tons of Dems posts on your Twitter.  You seem awfully fond of Pete Buttigeig.  Spare me your hypocrital lying liberal nonsense.

As far as chosenone, I would love to see her back up her pet doctrines with scripture. 
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: Jaime Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 12:02:53
NR, I am happy for your 4.0 GPA and yes you have every right to state what you think. What I think is you are definitely obsessed with the cofc. There ain't many here who are cofc so it is kind of a puzzle when you go off on that group. I have told you I disagree with much of what the conservative cofc teaches. I go to a progressive cofc, who is cast out of the family of conservative cofc at large. I disagree with Red Baker on nearly everything, but we get along well and respectful. I know I could get along with you, but doubt it would be possible.

I agree Chosenone IS a lady. I disagree with her on her many rudeness charges. As I said rudeness is far too subjective. I consider you rude on occasion and I know you do me as well.

An abortionist is one who performs abortions. I personally am confused by your stance on abortion and with the people you support. Do you perform abortions? I'm sure you don't.

I as well have been told that what I believe is crap. What's the big deal? I stay out of the evolution threads because I can't compete with their circular reasoning.

I agree with you on evolution (surprise). I think Calvinist are way off. You think I am way off. What else is new.

I hope you hear what I am saying next. You CAN get along with people here.  Sometimes a little jab is just that. I get those all the time here. I recognize the difference. I think you get WAY too upset over stuff. Everybody here are pretty good folks. Even the two women here you dislike. I don't like you much right now, but I think you have some good things to say. You are never going to go unanswered here when you jab at Trump. If it becomes uncomfortable to jab at Obama or Hillary here, I will have no problem leaving. We are all preaching to the choir in our heads.
If the makeup of the choir changes, I'm gone with no regrets.

I can get along with anyone, or I can be the biggest you know what in the place.

I do know life is too short for the continuation of whatever angry history you and a couple of women may have. There is definitely something going on or has gone on in the past with you and those two women beyon vulgar language. I would suggest for YOUR sanity that gets resolved hopefully outside the public forum bere. I am not taking sides, and I know no details, but a blind person could see there is something not right. I do not want to know the details, but I am one suffering with the rest of the board over it.

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: Texas Conservative Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 12:09:40
: notreligus  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 11:38:40
Jaime:

As one who grew up with Restoration Churches, their teaching and their Bible colleges, I have a right to state what I think.   I told them in Bible college where I felt they were wrong.  Still had 4.0 GPA after 2 1/2 years.  They respected me. I would suppose I have a larger library of books about the Restoration Movement than anyone else who posts here.   It seems to be alright to bash Calvinists or those who don't believe in Evolution.  A few days ago I posted about the Gospel and used Paul's writings as my source and I was promptly told that what I believed was CRAP!!!   The mods here ought to be more upset over that vs. water baptism, which cannot save and never will save.   I know Restorationists who poke fun at sitting vs. standing and one cup vs. individual.  You that's silly stuff.

I have been called an Abortionist by Texas Conservative, over and over and over again.   I begged the mods to do something.   

Chosenone is not just a female but is a lady and she does not use foul-mouthed language here.    You should have no quarrel with her but should be glad she is here, unless you just don't like women who are ladies and can speak without using vulgarities.

You will not find one post where I called you an "abortionist."

Please prove your accusation, or kindly be quiet.
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: chosenone Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 13:03:22
: AVZ  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 11:33:38
Oh, Teresa May and the royal family totally deserve to be attacked. Both May and the family seem to be quite capable of making a mess out of things.
Not your queen though, she's a tough lady...I bet you her balls are bigger than Ginger Rella's

And yeah, I totally agree with you on the Trump comment.
328 Million US citizens...and Trump is what they came up with.
Then again 66 Million UK citizens came up with Teresa May. Not the most shiny example of effective leadership.

Believe me she is 1000 times better than the alternative who is a Marxist. I am so glad to have a leader who has a strong faith and strong moral values, that is very rare in this country
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: Texas Conservative Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 13:09:02
: chosenone  Thu Apr 11, 2019 - 13:03:22
 

Believe me she is 1000 times better than the alternative who is a Marxist. I am so glad to have a leader who has a strong faith and strong moral values, that is very rare in this country

Except she is not what you assert and has tweeted pro-choice/pro-abort rhetoric.
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: Norton Fri Apr 12, 2019 - 21:12:34
The only thing I have to add is that size does matter quite a bit when you are crossing a barbed wire fence.