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: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: DaveW Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 06:17:16
OK this is a folder i NEVER post in. 
But this story made me think a bit.  And I totally disagree with the point made.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sports-have-been-making-the-same-dangerous-mistake-uefa-made-with-denmark-for-far-too-long-185356918.html

Everyone deals with grief and trauma differently.

It was hard not to feel either (or both) when Christian Eriksen collapsed Saturday at Euro 2020. It was even harder processing the moment in its entirety.

Here was a 29-year-old in better physical condition than 99.9% of the planet, keeling over on the field due to cardiac arrest. Medical professionals had to be rushed to his side. CPR and oxygen had to be administered. Denmark's team doctor described him as "gone" for a brief time.

It was mortifying. The Danish players' faces told stories you'd never want to read again. And less than two hours after the incident, UEFA, European soccer's governing body, forced a decision upon Denmark that has no place in a progressive society.

Players and coaches said the choice was this: finish playing the match Saturday night, or do so Sunday. That's it. Zero wiggle room.

Grief and trauma are different for every person. So why on earth was everyone forced to deal with it the same way? By finishing a match when they were, by their own admission, elsewhere mentally?

"I felt that the players — and us close to them — were put under that pressure and were given that dilemma. It was a hugely difficult situation to be in," Denmark manager Kasper Hjulmand said Tuesday. "The only real leadership would have been to put the players on a bus and send them home and then deal with it after.

"You don't necessarily find good leadership in the protocols. Good leadership can sometimes be to lead with compassion."

Hjulmand is right, and "compassion" is a key word. For too long, sports have shaved down suffering and demanded participants simply deal with whatever's afflicting them in service of the competition. Push through it. Finish the job, no matter the cost to your own well-being. In fact, our self-worth has often been branded as contingent upon these distillations, whether by athletes themselves or sporting goods manufacturers, even if it's a breathlessly stupid way to live.


: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: DaveW Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 06:22:04
IMO, pushing thru and continuing was absolutely the RIGHT decision.  While in general I am NOT a sports fan, (I do occasionally watch a Michigan State game) I realize that sports have taken the place of the survivalist hunt our stone age and hunter-gatherer ancestors lived thru.  It is in our DNA.  It was a matter of survival. 

Find food for your family. 
Repel others trying to take your food supply or land or housing or your people. 

There was no time to "mourn" or "grieve" when you are in the middle of it.  Find another time and place to deal with that stuff.

To be true to our ancestors, "pushing thru" is the right option. Compassion may be  a good thing, but the world is NOT a compassionate place.
: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: Texas Conservative Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 07:16:23
A progressive society is an effeminate society.
: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: Wycliffes_Shillelagh Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 11:21:05
: Texas Conservative  Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 07:16:23
A progressive society is an effeminate society.
Only when you use the word 'progressive' in the bastardized modern sense of the word in America.

Historically, 'progress' has been pushed by those who are bold, not those who shrink from conflict.  For instance, Teddy Roosevelt.

Jarrod
: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: Texas Conservative Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 11:30:00
It's what progressive means now that is all that matters.  The article used the word progressive in that manner.
: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: DaveW Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 13:29:12
: Texas Conservative  Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 11:30:00
It's what progressive means now that is all that matters. 
Why?

What ever happened to etymology?
: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: Texas Conservative Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 14:15:16
The article is about what "progressive" means now, so who cares what it meant 100 years ago.
: Re: Sports have been making the same dangerous mistake UEFA made
: Wycliffes_Shillelagh Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 17:37:25
: Texas Conservative  Wed Jun 16, 2021 - 14:15:16
The article is about what "progressive" means now, so who cares what it meant 100 years ago.
Progress means the same thing it did before.  A bunch of yahoos using words badly hasn't changed that.