So are there two OR are there Two WAYS ?
And some have called one a SECT ,REALLY ?
Reading Acts 18:18n Paul is on a boat to Syria and with him is Priscilla and Aquila and meet a certain Jew , Apollos by name , an Alexandrian by race , a learned man , came to Ephesus , being POWERFUL in the scriptures .
He was HAVING BEEN INSTRUCTED in THE WAY of the Lord , and being fervent in the Spirit , he was speaking and was TEACHING EXACTLY the things about the Lord , UNDERSTANDING ONLY the BAPTISMA OF JOHN .
In verse 26 , when this man began speaking in the synagogue .
And Aquila and Priscilla having heard him , they ntook him and EXPOUNDED the WAY of God to him more exactly ,
All should see that in verse 25 , there is the WAY OF THE LORD , Apollos was preaching the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN .
And in verse 26 we have the WAY OF GOD to him more EXACTLY !!
Then in verse 28 Apollos refuting the Jews publicly , showing by the scriptures Jesus to be the Christ .
The FIRST , WAY is the preaching of John the BAPTIZER is what the Greek text calls John .
And in Acts 19:3 the Greek word is also BAPTISMA and also m mused nin verse 4 .
SO , there are 2 WAYS spoken about , on WAY for Israel , John then BAPTISMA !
And the other the WAY OF GOD
The WAY OF GOD is way different as Rom 16:25 and Eph 3:2 is what Paul taught .
dan p
Are you not familiar with the old and new covenant? Jesus said there was a new covenant in His blood.
And yes I know about the OLD COVENANT and about 613 COMMANDS that are split between 365 DO'S and 248 DON'T .
So who was the NEW COVENANT given to , In Heb 8:8 ?
Was it to ISRAEL and JUDAH ?
Or was it to the BODY OF CHRIST ?
What say you ?
dan p
Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
Dan read Paul's letter to the Galatians it answers your question on what Gospel how many and such
: dan p Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 18:39:05
Was it to ISRAEL and JUDAH ?
Or was it to the BODY OF CHRIST ?
(a) Judah is part of Israel
(b) The Body of Christ is also part of Israel
: dan p Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 18:39:05 And yes I know about the OLD COVENANT and about 613 COMMANDS that are split between 365 DO'S and 248 DON'T.
So who was the NEW COVENANT given to, In Heb 8:8?
Was it to ISRAEL and JUDAH?
Or was it to the BODY OF CHRIST?
What say you?
dan p
Dan, it has been answered, you just refuse to hear and see the answer. It was given to BOTH Jews and Gentiles, the very elect among each. The many OT prophecies speaking of Israel and Judah coming together again is nothing more than Jews and Gentiles being ONE in the body of Jesus Christ.
There are NOT two separate promises in the word of God, one for Gentiles and one for the natural seed of Abraham, there is ONE PROMISE to the seed of Christ which is made up of Jews and Gentiles, Abraham being the spiritual father of BOTH.
dan p:
Question: ARE THERE TWO GOSPELS?
Buff
Dan, I'm beginning to believe all you are concerned with is asking questions, not necessarily finding the biblical answer since you very seldom enter into a serious dialogue with others. I trust I'm wrong and you truly do desire to know.
And then lets begin again with you !
#1 In Rev 14:6 , written as the EVERLASTING GOSPEL , and is in the ACCUSATIVE CASE and is in the SIGNGULAR '
The ACCUSATIVE CASE and SINGULAR just means it is LIMITED to that GOSPEL that will be preached at that time period /
#2 Gal 2:7 says the GOSPEL of the UNCIRCUCISION will be preached by PAUL and is also LIMITED to be preach by ONLY Paul will be able to PREACH it .
#3 Then in Gal 2:7 Peter will preach THE CIRCUMCISION and the Greek word THE / HO , points to that Gospel that Peter will preach ,
So what is it that you disagree with ?
dan p
Old thread, but Dan's assumptions need to be corrected instead of just letting this matter slide.
The below Scripture is what a false movement based on 19th century dispensationalism tries to use to claim only Paul's Epistles apply to the Church. The movement was based on the 1830s Dispensationalist theories of John Darby and a false Pre-trib Rapture theory he taught, and was later developed into the Hyper-Grace or Hyper-Dispensationalist movement. Their theory wrongly taught the idea of TWO Gospels, one for the Jews and another for the Gentiles. That idea was created obviously for the purpose of supporting their false Pre-tribulational Rapture theory, because they claim Jesus will rapture the Gentile Church prior to the tribulation while the "tribulation saints" represent the Jews that will go through the tribulation. They also wrongly teach when Jesus does return, the Jews will be in their own restored kingdom on earth, while Christ and His Church reign from heaven. That was the last stage of Darby's Dispensationalist theory.
Gal 2:7-8
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
8 (For He That wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
KJV
There is no such idea of 2 Gospels written anywhere in God's Word. The above is about the One Gospel of Jesus Christ in two separate COMMISSIONS; one commission in The One Gospel to Jews via Apostle Peter, and another commission of the SAME GOSPEL to the Gentiles given Apostle Paul.
The word "apostleship" above is apostole in the Greek which means 'commission' (NT:651).
Further I need to cover about Hyper-Dispensationalist's false theory of 2 Gospels...
The Pre-trib Rapture school falsely teaches that most of Christ's Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13 is not for the Church, but was given for the Jews. Their idea is false of course, as they do not want their deceived believers thinking those Signs Jesus gave there about the end of this world apply to them, because they are told they will be gone before the tribulation begins.
That is yet another reason for many in the modern Hyper-Grace movement that wrongly preach 2 Gospels, to also claim that only Apostle Paul's Epistles apply to the Christian Church, and the rest of The New Testament applies to the Jews. They even carry this concept further in Revelation, saying that the Church is raptured by the end of Revelation chapter 4 (some even before that with Rev.1).
In reality, those doctrines are from men, and I have no doubt directly from Satan's host that sneak into the Church to distort and deceive God's people. The idea of heeding only Paul's Epistles while thinking the rest of The Bible is meant for the Jews, is a sure path to deception into the hands of the devil and his servants.
This is especially telling with the fact that with Jesus' Olivet discourse, He gave His Church the 7 main SIGNS of the end of this world leading up to His future return so His Church would not... be deceived, and patiently wait on Him instead of falling away to the false-Messiah that comes first.
I have conversed with many of the deceived on man's false Pre-trib Rapture idea about Jesus' warning of the coming of the pseudo-Christ and idol worship at the end which He warned us about, and most of them I discovered are totally unaware of that, and only claim that's just about the many antichrists, showing they are not aware of a singular false-Messiah that is to come to Jerusalem first, claiming to be God, setting up an IDOL abomination in the temple there, and with the power of great signs, wonders, and miracles, unlike others that only could claim... to be Christ, and have no supernatural powers. Those 7 SIGNS of the end Jesus gave there parallel the Seals of Revelation 6, but still, their false preachers claim the Church will be gone before Rev.6.
Those are only clever ways to keep their congregations deceived away from what Jesus Christ, The Head of The Church, revealed for believers so as to not be deceived at the end of this world, while waiting on His return.
: Texas Conservative Tue Jul 12, 2022 - 18:23:46Are you not familiar with the old and new covenant? Jesus said there was a new covenant in His blood.
And what does the New Covenant say how anyone can be saved ?
dan p