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: State sponsored piracy???
: Frank_N_Sense Tue Dec 29, 2009 - 19:38:40
Back in the day when the "Queen" sent men out to plunder, kill & steal it was ok??

Seems to me we learned what a hero Sir Francis Drake was when I was a kid...........

Come to find out he was just a XXXX pirate...............



: Re: State sponsored piracy???
: fcadcock Thu Mar 11, 2010 - 19:51:33
Are you saying that Drake couldn't be a hero because he was a pirate?

If that's the case, Peter couldn't have been a Christian because he was a sinner...

A man's life cannot be summed up into "good guy" or "bad guy" quite as easily as this.  Some of the worlds greatest men were womanizing, lying, bastards.

Then again, it also depends on which side of history you are on.

If you were a native american or brittish, you would consider Andrew Jackson to be a murderer and a tyrant, but we Americans hold him as one of our greatest citizens.

If you were from eurpoe, you would consider gengas kahn to be a pilligaging mass murderer, but if you were a mongolian, he united your people and gave you great wealth.

Mexicans hold Cortez to be a mass murderer, we call him a conqueror...
: Re: State sponsored piracy???
: Wycliffes_Shillelagh Fri Mar 12, 2010 - 10:43:25
: fcadcock  Thu Mar 11, 2010 - 19:51:33
Are you saying that Drake couldn't be a hero because he was a pirate?

If that's the case, Peter couldn't have been a Christian because he was a sinner...

A man's life cannot be summed up into "good guy" or "bad guy" quite as easily as this.  Some of the worlds greatest men were womanizing, lying, bastards.

Then again, it also depends on which side of history you are on.

If you were a native american or brittish, you would consider Andrew Jackson to be a murderer and a tyrant, but we Americans hold him as one of our greatest citizens.

If you were from eurpoe, you would consider gengas kahn to be a pilligaging mass murderer, but if you were a mongolian, he united your people and gave you great wealth.

Mexicans hold Cortez to be a mass murderer, we call him a conqueror...
That was a good post.

But it raises the question - to benefit one group, must one take from some other group?
: Re: State sponsored piracy???
: RalphMalph Fri Mar 12, 2010 - 14:02:11
Pirates?!
Not -just!- Pirates...
Pirates of Auverdone!!!  ::swordfight::
: Re: State sponsored piracy???
: Mere Nick Wed Mar 17, 2010 - 16:39:07
: Wycliffes_Shillelagh  Fri Mar 12, 2010 - 10:43:25
: fcadcock  Thu Mar 11, 2010 - 19:51:33
Are you saying that Drake couldn't be a hero because he was a pirate?

If that's the case, Peter couldn't have been a Christian because he was a sinner...

A man's life cannot be summed up into "good guy" or "bad guy" quite as easily as this.  Some of the worlds greatest men were womanizing, lying, bastards.

Then again, it also depends on which side of history you are on.

If you were a native american or brittish, you would consider Andrew Jackson to be a murderer and a tyrant, but we Americans hold him as one of our greatest citizens.

If you were from eurpoe, you would consider gengas kahn to be a pilligaging mass murderer, but if you were a mongolian, he united your people and gave you great wealth.

Mexicans hold Cortez to be a mass murderer, we call him a conqueror...
That was a good post.

But it raises the question - to benefit one group, must one take from some other group?

No.  There's a difference between war and free trade.
: Re: State sponsored piracy???
: walker starr Sat Aug 14, 2010 - 18:23:02
: Frank_N_Sense  Tue Dec 29, 2009 - 19:38:40
Back in the day when the "Queen" sent men out to plunder, kill & steal it was ok??

Seems to me we learned what a hero Sir Francis Drake was when I was a kid...........

Come to find out he was just a XXXX pirate...............




Yes he was a pirate,  But , he was a good pirate
                      He wasn't a xxxxpirat.

                  In the war against    England l812 the pirate t LAFYATTE WAS WELCOME TO THE FIGHT.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                 












: Re: State sponsored piracy???
: Wycliffes_Shillelagh Mon Aug 16, 2010 - 15:23:28
: Mere Nick  Wed Mar 17, 2010 - 16:39:07
That was a good post.

But it raises the question - to benefit one group, must one take from some other group?
No.  There's a difference between war and free trade.[/quote]
Are you sure?  Cuz I'm pretty sure the president said the opposite...