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Christian Interests => Theology Forum => Non-Traditional Theology => : lesjude Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 17:30:56

: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 17:30:56
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcGaTRwG_4&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWeUNoR30_0&NR=1&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rwzbcMXpSQ
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: larry2 Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:19:08
: lesjude  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 17:30:56
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcGaTRwG_4&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWeUNoR30_0&NR=1&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rwzbcMXpSQ


This new invasion true or false? And then I must ask how this would edify anyone?

1 Corinthians 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 23:16:29
: larry2  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:19:08
: lesjude  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 17:30:56
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcGaTRwG_4&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWeUNoR30_0&NR=1&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rwzbcMXpSQ


This new invasion true or false? And then I must ask how this would edify anyone?

1 Corinthians 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
It is false and edifies no one. In fact many are demon oppressed as a result.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Carey Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 12:42:42
Many of the manifestations attributed to the Holy Spirit just make me shake my head. ::frown:: (no pun intended)

I believe many are deceived and outright frauds in the leadership. As to the sheep, I believe most sincere but are victims of hypnotic suggestion, and indeed some events are of demons.

The unfortunate result is a hardening of the heart towards those events that do indeed come from God; that edify His flock.

Carey.



: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: FireSword Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 16:16:52
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
You mean organ type hymns?

What I notice is that these traditional type hymns are often saying that Christian  rap  Christian rock e.g is evil, but yet they have no authority to say that the organ and hymn type singing is of God.

: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 17:11:10
: FireSword  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 16:16:52
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
You mean organ type hymns?
No. Usually it is contemporary worship. The devil is not interested in most denominational churches.

What I notice is that these traditional type hymns are often saying that Christian  rap  Christian rock e.g is evil, but yet they have no authority to say that the organ and hymn type singing is of God.


In our fellowships most singing is right out of the Psalms. Many of the old hymns are anointed. Christian rap and rock is the same  source as secular rock and rap. The world, the flesh and the devil.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 21:07:04
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 17:11:10
: FireSword  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 16:16:52
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
You mean organ type hymns?
No. Usually it is contemporary worship. The devil is not interested in most denominational churches.

What I notice is that these traditional type hymns are often saying that Christian  rap  Christian rock e.g is evil, but yet they have no authority to say that the organ and hymn type singing is of God.


In our fellowships most singing is right out of the Psalms. Many of the old hymns are anointed. Christian rap and rock is the same  source as secular rock and rap. The world, the flesh and the devil.

As God is the God of music, its Creator, who created music as a way to bring glory to Himself, I shouldn't think that when Spirit-filled people create music by His inspiration they are succumbing to the world. In truth, we are like King David who marched right into the Amelikites' camp and took back what was stolen from him. So...we are consistently taking back what rightfully belongs to God which was stolen by Satan, and worshiping Him! (1 Samuel 30:18)


This is how it should be!




: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 22:06:02
: Lively Stone  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
I am sure that some of it is flesh. However I have cast enough of these kundalini/third eye spirits out of people to know much of it is demonic. There was a real positive change in their lives after these demons were cast out.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 23:09:30
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 22:06:02
: Lively Stone  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
I am sure that some of it is flesh. However I have cast enough of these kundalini/third eye spirits out of people to know much of it is demonic. There was a real positive change in their lives after these demons were cast out.

I am glad that you were able to do that, but I do question the label that is given to these spirits of falseness. They are just mocking, religious spirits assigned to mimic the work of Holy Spirit.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Kindle Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 10:57:43
: Lively Stone  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 23:09:30
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 22:06:02
: Lively Stone  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
I am sure that some of it is flesh. However I have cast enough of these kundalini/third eye spirits out of people to know much of it is demonic. There was a real positive change in their lives after these demons were cast out.

I am glad that you were able to do that, but I do question the label that is given to these spirits of falseness. They are just mocking, religious spirits assigned to mimic the work of Holy Spirit.

I agree that these spirits are just as Lively has explained.  
At the same time, I know that our old church went awry when they began to try and "force" the Holy Spirit into people. It was exactly an abuse directed by the flesh.  Exhortation; and meanwhile with the pastors and leaders ordering the repetition of the same song if the congregation wasn't sufficiently moved. (As a defining example...) We did feel God's presence slowly disappearing from this church, and the characteristics of a cult mentality and emotionality taking His place over time.  I see this as the warning intrinsic in LesJude's OP.
I personally saw nothing I could discern as demonic in this church. But there did come into existence a void, and later a (technically) criminal prosecution brought them ill repute within the community.  The husband of the husband/wife pastor team abused his position of authority within the jail ministry; and committed adultery.  It's all just very, very saddening.  
Regarding Kundalini, the Holy Spirit will not be counterfeited.  Beware of what does come as a counterfeit.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 15:52:30
: Lively Stone  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 23:09:30
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 22:06:02
: Lively Stone  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
I am sure that some of it is flesh. However I have cast enough of these kundalini/third eye spirits out of people to know much of it is demonic. There was a real positive change in their lives after these demons were cast out.

I am glad that you were able to do that, but I do question the label that is given to these spirits of falseness. They are just mocking, religious spirits assigned to mimic the work of Holy Spirit.
http://www.snakespirit.webs.com/
http://www.virtualcs.com/blackboard/lessons/types/kundalinitype.htm
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: FireSword Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 16:16:06
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 17:11:10
: FireSword  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 16:16:52
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
You mean organ type hymns?
No. Usually it is contemporary worship. The devil is not interested in most denominational churches.

What I notice is that these traditional type hymns are often saying that Christian  rap  Christian rock e.g is evil, but yet they have no authority to say that the organ and hymn type singing is of God.


In our fellowships most singing is right out of the Psalms. Many of the old hymns are anointed. Christian rap and rock is the same  source as secular rock and rap. The world, the flesh and the devil.

Depends on what song it is, I find that a lot of secular music reminds me of Jesus.

If your church sings psalms then great, but when a person raps those psalms why call Gods work the devils.



: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 19:38:22
: FireSword  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 16:16:06
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 17:11:10
: FireSword  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 16:16:52
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
You mean organ type hymns?
No. Usually it is contemporary worship. The devil is not interested in most denominational churches.

What I notice is that these traditional type hymns are often saying that Christian  rap  Christian rock e.g is evil, but yet they have no authority to say that the organ and hymn type singing is of God.


In our fellowships most singing is right out of the Psalms. Many of the old hymns are anointed. Christian rap and rock is the same  source as secular rock and rap. The world, the flesh and the devil.

Depends on what song it is, I find that a lot of secular music reminds me of Jesus.

If your church sings psalms then great, but when a person raps those psalms why call Gods work the devils.




http://youtu.be/KnDm3qr1Knk
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Carey Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 19:57:58
: lesjude  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 19:38:22
: FireSword  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 16:16:06

Depends on what song it is, I find that a lot of secular music reminds me of Jesus.

If your church sings psalms then great, but when a person raps those psalms why call Gods work the devils.

http://youtu.be/KnDm3qr1Knk

My son would roll his eyes at such,  How about this, I am not overly fond of rap but there is a certain beauty in this one.

: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 20:08:55
It is interesting that it says in scripture it was a "tree". There is some evidence that it was a green tree, not on "Calvary" but the Mount of Olives which is the only place they could look into the temple. Jesus carried the cross arm not the whole cross which he was nailed to and  then it was spiked to the green tree with the thieves on the same  tree. The tree was an almond tree just like Moses' rod that budded which was originally taken from the tree of life which was in the garden.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 21:14:11
: lesjude  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 15:52:30
: Lively Stone  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 23:09:30
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 22:06:02
: Lively Stone  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
I am sure that some of it is flesh. However I have cast enough of these kundalini/third eye spirits out of people to know much of it is demonic. There was a real positive change in their lives after these demons were cast out.

I am glad that you were able to do that, but I do question the label that is given to these spirits of falseness. They are just mocking, religious spirits assigned to mimic the work of Holy Spirit.
http://www.snakespirit.webs.com/
http://www.virtualcs.com/blackboard/lessons/types/kundalinitype.htm

I don't think these are appropriate sites. They are alarmist and exaggerated, and are created to instill fear. We know already that there are demonic spirits that mock the manifestations of Holy Spirit. They are no match for the real thing. those of us who are Spirit-filled know how to take care of them in short shrift.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: e.r.m. Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 12:19:20
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
I've seen the same song sung over and over. Very powerful and hypnotic!

New age music depends on the music in question, I think. Some artists labeled as new age don't even consider themselves as new age.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: e.r.m. Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 12:38:49
: lesjude  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 17:30:56
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcGaTRwG_4&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWeUNoR30_0&NR=1&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rwzbcMXpSQ
One thing I like about the Bible, it roots out so many falsehoods. Although the videos seem true, we don't need them. The behavior described in the first video I saw does not exist within the NT text describing the church. Hence, it's false.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: MeMyself Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 13:34:35
: e.r.m.  Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 12:19:20
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
I've seen the same song sung over and over. Very powerful and hypnotic!

really? For me, it was annoying and I started zoning out thinking about luuuuunnnnchhhh... ::eatinganarrow:: ::readytoeat:: ::drooling::

::noworries::
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: e.r.m. Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 13:39:24
: MeMyself  Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 13:34:35
: e.r.m.  Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 12:19:20
: lesjude  Fri Jun 22, 2012 - 16:02:32
Amen.
I think it is  the new age type music that hypnotizes as well as singing the same song over and over for long periods even if it is Christian song.
I've seen the same song sung over and over. Very powerful and hypnotic!

really? For me, it was annoying and I started zoning out thinking about luuuuunnnnchhhh... ::eatinganarrow:: ::readytoeat:: ::drooling::

::noworries::
Ahaha! :D
Maybe there's a trick to it!
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: jmldn2 Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 15:32:49
Any mode of media, entertainment, learning can be a way of evil.  Anything can be an avenue for Satan and his minions to work on our minds and souls.  However, music to me is a wonderful technique to sing God's praises or to be filled with His joy.  I don't care for rap or rock music whether it is Christian or not.  However, different groups of people prefer different ways to worship and praise God.  Evil comes in many forms and yes I believe there are times when evil may try to enter into the Body of Christ through our flesh.   We see evidence of this in the churches, christian schools, public schools through the discovery of evil people in the midst.  If I were a kid today, I would wonder just whom I could trust in a leadership position.  Just saying. ::lookaround::
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: e.r.m. Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 19:06:17
: jmldn2  Fri Jul 06, 2012 - 15:32:49
Any mode of media, entertainment, learning can be a way of evil.  Anything can be an avenue for Satan and his minions to work on our minds and souls.  However, music to me is a wonderful technique to sing God's praises or to be filled with His joy.  I don't care for rap or rock music whether it is Christian or not.  However, different groups of people prefer different ways to worship and praise God.  Evil comes in many forms and yes I believe there are times when evil may try to enter into the Body of Christ through our flesh.   We see evidence of this in the churches, christian schools, public schools through the discovery of evil people in the midst.  If I were a kid today, I would wonder just whom I could trust in a leadership position.  Just saying. ::lookaround::
You're totally right. I found out years later that my 7th grade math teacher molested kids. I was a student aid of his for a day. I quit being his aid because it was too boring. I never knew. Sexual offender websites lists them as everywhere!
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: bemark Wed Jul 18, 2012 - 13:07:51
Post some more videos of the Holy Spirit .Andrew Storm is the one who is deceived.

Some just don't know that they witnessed the kingdom coming upon in there midst.Sure there is the fake as well.

I am a shaker under the anointing and I would love to have someone cast it out of me. all I would do is shake some more and see them getting more angry at me because the anointing of God would expose there religious spirit.I would be beaming with Joy and they would be getting madder and madder

Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.Then let me lay hands upon them.They would run a mile or do they really believe the word of God.Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.Its not just word but action.

The lives of people fallen apart throughout the video is not proof that this was not the Holy Spirit.Look at the bible and all others in ministry.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Wed Jul 18, 2012 - 15:59:42
: bemark  Wed Jul 18, 2012 - 13:07:51
Post some more videos of the Holy Spirit .Andrew Storm is the one who is deceived.

Some just don't know that they witnessed the kingdom coming upon in there midst.Sure there is the fake as well.

I am a shaker under the anointing and I would love to have someone cast it out of me. all I would do is shake some more and see them getting more angry at me because the anointing of God would expose there religious spirit.I would be beaming with Joy and they would be getting madder and madder

Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.Then let me lay hands upon them.They would run a mile or do they really believe the word of God.Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.Its not just word but action.

The lives of people fallen apart throughout the video is not proof that this was not the Holy Spirit.Look at the bible and all others in ministry.

You get manna for courage! Blessings!
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Fri Jul 20, 2012 - 22:43:54
: bemark  Wed Jul 18, 2012 - 13:07:51
Post some more videos of the Holy Spirit .Andrew Storm is the one who is deceived.

Some just don't know that they witnessed the kingdom coming upon in there midst.Sure there is the fake as well.

I am a shaker under the anointing and I would love to have someone cast it out of me. all I would do is shake some more and see them getting more angry at me because the anointing of God would expose there religious spirit.I would be beaming with Joy and they would be getting madder and madder

Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.Then let me lay hands upon them.They would run a mile or do they really believe the word of God.Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.Its not just word but action.

The lives of people fallen apart throughout the video is not proof that this was not the Holy Spirit.Look at the bible and all others in ministry.
Kundalini, out in Jesus name!
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 17:28:01
: lesjude  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 20:08:55
It is interesting that it says in scripture it was a "tree". There is some evidence that it was a green tree, not on "Calvary" but the Mount of Olives which is the only place they could look into the temple. Jesus carried the cross arm not the whole cross which he was nailed to and  then it was spiked to the green tree with the thieves on the same  tree. The tree was an almond tree just like Moses' rod that budded which was originally taken from the tree of life which was in the garden.



The reason it says tree is because there's only one meaning for Cross

Stauros - a stake or a post - upright


Christ didn't die on a "t" cross like people think..K.. They are taught the traditions of men brought to you by the letter "C" for Catholic church....

But I know well enough that dispite the truth, tradtion will be king!

The cross outside your church is of pagan origin.....

See strongs 4716 for All cross mentions in new testament.

Still who will be first to say this isn't right?

Not based on scripture but traditions of men - you can't get around it


Also the cross Jesus carried was a stauros - only in bible story's and movies does Jesus carry the "cross" piece....
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: fenton Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 17:33:07
: Lively Stone  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 21:14:11
: lesjude  Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 15:52:30
: Lively Stone  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 23:09:30
: lesjude  Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 22:06:02
: Lively Stone  Thu Jun 21, 2012 - 21:46:21
This Kundalini junk is only fear mongering. People  don't realize that Satan mocks the manifestations of the Spirit, and that it is the other way around. Where there are abuses in the churches, all you are dealing with is the flesh, and unwise leaders who do not tell people to stop.
I am sure that some of it is flesh. However I have cast enough of these kundalini/third eye spirits out of people to know much of it is demonic. There was a real positive change in their lives after these demons were cast out.

I am glad that you were able to do that, but I do question the label that is given to these spirits of falseness. They are just mocking, religious spirits assigned to mimic the work of Holy Spirit.
http://www.snakespirit.webs.com/ (http://www.snakespirit.webs.com/)
http://www.virtualcs.com/blackboard/lessons/types/kundalinitype.htm (http://www.virtualcs.com/blackboard/lessons/types/kundalinitype.htm)

I don't think these are appropriate sites. They are alarmist and exaggerated, and are created to instill fear. We know already that there are demonic spirits that mock the manifestations of Holy Spirit. They are no match for the real thing. those of us who are Spirit-filled know how to take care of them in short shrift.


::nodding:: ::nodding::   ::applause::   ::amen!::
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 18:09:39
Kundalini also has

Uncontrolled laughing
barking grunting ect


Just like those in the Toronto blessing.....  And many other Christian churches...




: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 18:18:49
I am a shaker under the anointing


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:

not Gods anointing - both shakers and Quakers

Do you people even understand what test the spirits mean?


No where is there shakers in the word of God.... Never did Paul or the others shake or laugh out of control..... If it's not in the word it's NOT from God...
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 21:03:05
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 18:09:39
Kundalini also has

Uncontrolled laughing
barking grunting ect


Just like those in the Toronto blessing.....  And many other Christian churches...

More nonsense.

Are you a JW?
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: bemark Sun Aug 12, 2012 - 08:37:04
: lesjude  Fri Jul 20, 2012 - 22:43:54
: bemark  Wed Jul 18, 2012 - 13:07:51
Post some more videos of the Holy Spirit .Andrew Storm is the one who is deceived.

Some just don't know that they witnessed the kingdom coming upon in there midst.Sure there is the fake as well.

I am a shaker under the anointing and I would love to have someone cast it out of me. all I would do is shake some more and see them getting more angry at me because the anointing of God would expose there religious spirit.I would be beaming with Joy and they would be getting madder and madder

Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.Then let me lay hands upon them.They would run a mile or do they really believe the word of God.Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.Its not just word but action.

The lives of people fallen apart throughout the video is not proof that this was not the Holy Spirit.Look at the bible and all others in ministry.
Kundalini, out in Jesus name!
Good on you.At least you have faith to believe that you can.Hasn't worked though, still shaking  so maybe one would either come up with the conclusion , that it is of God......or you haven't really gone into the depth of the name of Jesus yet.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: bemark Sun Aug 12, 2012 - 08:44:31
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Fri Aug 03, 2012 - 18:18:49
I am a shaker under the anointing


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:

not Gods anointing - both shakers and Quakers

Do you people even understand what test the spirits mean?


No where is there shakers in the word of God.... Never did Paul or the others shake or laugh out of control..... If it's not in the word it's NOT from God...
Do you really understand how to test the spirits?  Or how to discern wither or not the kingdom of God is present or not?

I will understand by your words if you do really go into the spirit realm or not and then I can also tell by the spirit realm around you if you do go or not.Paul could Judge those before he went.......something to consider.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:23:14
I do.... The fact that I use the bible to show that "shaking" is not from the holy spirit... No where do we find believes shaking or laughing out of control..... This is how you test the spirits - the word of God...

you certainly don't think there's another way?   
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59
Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:


Believers should not and do not need to lay hands on someone to cast out a spirit..

Shouting or getting mad is foolishness....

The only thing a believer should say is:


Zech 3:2 "The Lord rebukes you"
Jude 1:9 "The Lord rebuke thee"

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 03:27:26
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly

That has ZERO to do with demonic activity. It is about appropriate appointing of people into leadership positions within the church.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: FireSword Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 11:57:06
No it's about respecting people. Jesus asked people before he healed them.


People don't like to be touched without warning.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Willie T Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 14:51:02
: Lively Stone  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 03:27:26
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly

That has ZERO to do with demonic activity. It is about appropriate appointing of people into leadership positions within the church.

Lively, you have the patience of Job.  I swear, it's just like some people arent even reading the same Bible we have.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 18:30:12
: FireSword  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 11:57:06
No it's about respecting people. Jesus asked people before he healed them.


People don't like to be touched without warning.

That is not true. The passage is about making sure that when we commission people into ministry, that they are not new to the faith, that they are indeed faithful and mature believers.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Lively Stone Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 18:30:43
: Willie T  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 14:51:02
: Lively Stone  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 03:27:26
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly

That has ZERO to do with demonic activity. It is about appropriate appointing of people into leadership positions within the church.

Lively, you have the patience of Job.  I swear, it's just like some people arent even reading the same Bible we have.

You got THAT right, Willie!
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 18:35:40
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59
Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:


Believers should not and do not need to lay hands on someone to cast out a spirit..

Shouting or getting mad is foolishness....

The only thing a believer should say is:


Zech 3:2 "The Lord rebukes you"
Jude 1:9 "The Lord rebuke thee"

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly
Out in Jesus' name! works very well!
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Willie T Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 19:30:09
: lesjude  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 18:35:40
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59
Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:


Believers should not and do not need to lay hands on someone to cast out a spirit..

Shouting or getting mad is foolishness....

The only thing a believer should say is:


Zech 3:2 "The Lord rebukes you"
Jude 1:9 "The Lord rebuke thee"

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly
Out in Jesus' name! works very well!
Uh.... you guys might want to join us down on Skid Row sometime.  These demons aren't really scared out all that easily.  Why do you think the Disciples came to Jesus, all shook up, telling Him that they couldn't get some demons out?
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: lesjude Sun Sep 02, 2012 - 22:50:11
: Willie T  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 19:30:09
: lesjude  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 18:35:40
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59
Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:


Believers should not and do not need to lay hands on someone to cast out a spirit..

Shouting or getting mad is foolishness....

The only thing a believer should say is:


Zech 3:2 "The Lord rebukes you"
Jude 1:9 "The Lord rebuke thee"

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly
Out in Jesus' name! works very well!
Uh.... you guys might want to join us down on Skid Row sometime.  These demons aren't really scared out all that easily.  Why do you think the Disciples came to Jesus, all shook up, telling Him that they couldn't get some demons out?
You really should read what Jesus told them was the reason they could not cast it out.
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Willie T Mon Sep 03, 2012 - 16:05:14
: lesjude  Sun Sep 02, 2012 - 22:50:11
: Willie T  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 19:30:09
: lesjude  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 18:35:40
: KNOWLEDGE BOMB  Sat Sep 01, 2012 - 00:50:59
Here is a test for those who are not sure.Let them lay hands upon me and try to cast it out.


KNOWLEDGE BOMB replies:


Believers should not and do not need to lay hands on someone to cast out a spirit..

Shouting or getting mad is foolishness....

The only thing a believer should say is:


Zech 3:2 "The Lord rebukes you"
Jude 1:9 "The Lord rebuke thee"

1tim 5:22 lay hands on no man suddenly
Out in Jesus' name! works very well!
Uh.... you guys might want to join us down on Skid Row sometime.  These demons aren't really scared out all that easily.  Why do you think the Disciples came to Jesus, all shook up, telling Him that they couldn't get some demons out?
You really should read what Jesus told them was the reason they could not cast it out.
Why?  Don't you know why it was?  I'll help you out if I have to since I already know, but I think you really should try to find out for yourself. 
: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: bemark Wed Sep 05, 2012 - 00:58:13
So I take it from some of these posts that there are a lot of demonized Christians out there and also a whole lot of Christians who haven't the faith to cast them out. ::frown::

Or there are some Christians out there letting the Holy Spirit come and then there are others saying that the Holy Spirit is a devil. ::frown::


: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: FireSword Sat Sep 08, 2012 - 20:06:11
The passage does not say, 'lay hand on no man'. It says lay hand on no man suddenly

Something that most pastors I see on tv ignore, by slapping people all over the place in kungfu manner.



: Re: False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING
: Willie T Fri Nov 23, 2012 - 14:20:33
: bemark  Wed Sep 05, 2012 - 00:58:13
So I take it from some of these posts that there are a lot of demonized Christians out there and also a whole lot of Christians who haven't the faith to cast them out. ::frown::

Or there are some Christians out there letting the Holy Spirit come and then there are others saying that the Holy Spirit is a devil. ::frown::
A horrible amount of truth in that evaluation.