John 17:17 KJV
[17] Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Can we handle The truth which is Jesus words?
As I read God's word I run across scriptures and verses that contradicts the doctrine of these denominations.
Do we separate/sanctify ourselves from Jesus truth and false doctrine?
Lets read
Is God the God of the dead or the Living?
Mark 12:26-27 KJV
[26] And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? [27] He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
The Living
The truth is the dead know nothing and the living know they shall die
Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV
[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
The truth is when a person dies all emotions cease so sister Mary is not looking down from heaven or old bad Fred is not looking up from hell, there is no emotions
Ecclesiastes 9:6 KJV
[6] Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
The truth is man home is the earth and not heaven. Man was created from the earth
Genesis 2:7 KJV
[7] And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
At the funeral we should tell the pastor that the homecoming if man is back to the earth as soon as man is put into the grave he has made his home coming
1 Corinthians 15:47-49 KJV
[47] The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. [48] As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. [49] And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
Man home is the earth the OT and NT clarifies the truth
Remember God's word is truth and we will sanctify those who believe in Gods word verses those who believes in lies.
Adam came from dust and Adam went back to dust. This is facts!
Genesis 3:17-19 KJV
[17] And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; [18] Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; [19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art , and unto dust shalt thou return.
God called it!
When man dies that person does not remember anything, not love ones, not friends nor God
Psalm 6:4-5 KJV
[4] Return, O Lord , deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. [5] For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
Not can that dead person communicate with the living of come back from the dead without God raising that person up
Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV
[10] Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
So who are these people talking to, or saw, who claim they spoke to there dead love one ? Who are they seeing or speaking to?
The truth is they have contacted or consulted a familiar spirit
Leviticus 19:31 KJV
[31] Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.
Isaiah 8:18-19 KJV
[18] Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. [19] And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
There is no such need as dead people haunting houses
Job 7:7-10 KJV
[7] O remember that my life is wind: mine eye shall no more see good. [8] The eye of him that hath seen me shall see me no more : thine eyes are upon me, and I am not. [9] As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more . [10] He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more.
Man goes to the grave and rises up no more until the appointed time
We all have been taught lies by our parents and pastors who were taught lies, we all followed a denomination and doctrine until we were able and old enough to read for ourselves
But now that we can read the truth for ourselves we don't have to follow fables
2 Peter 1:15-16 KJV
[15] Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance. [16] For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
If you know someone who is talking to a love one or seeing a love one who is dead, that person has consulted a familiar spirit which is the fallen angels that were kicked out of heaven.
Where do the dead go? To the grave. When will the people in the grave rise? When Jesus returns at the resurrection
John 5:28-29 KJV
[28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
This is truth! Get way from the Hollywood movies or false doctrine in churches that the dead are in heaven or can come back and save or haunt us. Those are lies
Jesus words will sanctify us with the truth
How do we really know that we are in the end times?
Exodus 20:9 KJV
[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
God gave man 6 days to labour
2 Peter 3:8 KJV
[8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Or
God gave man 6000 years to labour
from Adam to Abraham is 2000 years
From Abraham to Jesus is 2000 years
From Jesus to 2013 is 2000 years?
That's 6000 years give or take
God gave man 6 days or 6000 years to rule the earth, but after those 6 days are complete then it's The Lord turn
Here comes the 7th day or the 7000th year or commonly called the millennium
Genesis 2:1-3 KJV
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. [2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. [3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Exodus 20:8,10 KJV
[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. [10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
This is the day that belongs to God, this is when he will rule
Go and do some research, make or get a time calendar start with Adam year 1 and keep going to 2013 you will come to 6000 years give or take a few years
Here is some truth
Some will say that the sabbath is done away with, some will say that sabbath happened back at the creation and some will say that it is future
Lets read where this sabbath is not fulfilled and God did did not rest! Jesus nor the Father
John 5:17 KJV
[17] But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Tell me when did Jesus or the Father rest?
They have not!
John 5:17 KJV
[17] But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Did God rest in this verse in Genesis?
Genesis 2:1-3 KJV
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. [2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. [3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Is this past or future?
Hebrews 3:9-12 KJV
[9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. [10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. [11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) [12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
The sabbath is the day of rest
It is future, this is not the weekly sabbath but the day The Lord returns
Notice some more truth in those verses
Those Israelites that were in the wilderness that saw Jesus miracles they will not be in Jesus kingdom 1000 year rule
Lets read it again
Hebrews 3:9-12 KJV
[9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. [10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. [11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) [12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
They shall not enter into his rest
Lets read the 4 th chapter ad pay close attention to the many truth we will learn that contrary to the teachings of today's Christianity
Hebrews 4:1,3-5,8-11 KJV
[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. [3] For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [4] For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. [5] And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. [8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. [9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. [10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. [11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
We must enter into this rest, so it must be future, we know the rest is referred back to genesis 2 which we read. Paul also says we must labour to enter into this rest.
Paul is saying we must work to get into Jesus kingdom, Paul lets us know that
It was Jesus with the Israelites in the wilderness. It will be that same Jesus with us
When he setup his kingdom which is a rest!
Can you handle the truth in this chapter?
Lets look at the The Lord coming setting up the day of rest and read how long it is
Revelation 20:4-6 KJV
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. [5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. [6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
1000 years is Jesus rule
Paul said we must labour to enter into this rest
John said we will be kings and priest in this 1000 year rule of Jesus.
So much for those who teach the fable about we don't need works
Think about what you just READ
A 1000 years of peace and rest
Remember satan is bound for those 1000 years of Jesus rule
The chief sinner and his cohorts are out of action
The chief sinner has been bothering us for 6000 years
There will be generations that know not satan and sin
But in this 1000 year rule of Jesus will be the literal lake of fire and probably or kids but must definitely our
Grand and great grand children will see this
Revelation 19:11-13,19-20 KJV
[11] And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. [12] His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. [13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. [19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. [20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Some of us and they will get to see the AOD and the military leader in the lake of fire
Go back and read the whole chapter we have the coming of Jesus taking down the nations and taking those
2 guys putting them into the lake of fire.
They beat satan there!
Again lets switch gears a little
Hear is some more truth
Are you aware that there is a 8th day or a 8000th year
Watch this
We already read that a day to The Lord is 1000 years
So we got
6 days or 6000 years for man to rule
7th day or 7000th year for Jess to rule
But we can read where the 7000th year expired
Now what?
Revelation 20:7,11-15 KJV
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, [11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. [14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
We have the 7th day or 7000th year expiring
We have judgement day but we have also something else happening
Keep in mind this truth
6000 years of man rule on the earth
1000 years of Jesus rule on the earth
Here comes the FATHER
Jesus rule has expired now here comes the Father
Revelation 21:1-3 KJV
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. [2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
We just went into another day
Remember Jesus 1000 year rule or day is over , we move into another day
Keep on mind this NEW Jerusalem along with the Father has come to earth
Fact and truth
Lets read Paul tell us the same thing
1 Corinthians 15:22-28 KJV
[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. [23] But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. [24] Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. [25] For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. [26] The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. [27] For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted which did put all things under him. [28] And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Jesus time to rule has ended he had put down all opposition and now he has given all rule over to the Father
We entered into another day.
John 14:1-4 KJV
[1] Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. [2] In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so , I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. [3] And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. [4] And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
That place where Jesus went to build many mansions was New Jerusalem for the Gather's kingdom.
Take note also what we said he said he will come again( to earth ) and where he is we will be also
Jesus kingdom will be on earth this is where we will be also
Truth
I hope we all understand that there will be two kingdoms
Jesus kingdom on the 7th day
The Father's kingdom on the 8th day
Two separate kingdoms
Listen to what Jesus said here for those who think we go to heaven
John 7:33-36 KJV
[33] Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me. [34] Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me : and where I am, thither ye cannot come. [35] Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles? [36] What manner of saying is this that he said, Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me : and where I am, thither ye cannot come?
Jesus said where he goes we cannot come
In Jesus kingdom there will be flesh and blood along with those who are spirits that made the first resurrection
In The Father's kingdom there will be NO flesh and blood people. Only spirit beings like God
This to is a truth
On The 8th day in the Fathers kingdom there is no flesh, no death, no sin
What happens in the bible on the 8th day
Leviticus 12:2-3 KJV
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. [3] And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
The foreskin of flesh is removed
On the eighth day in the Father kingdom all flesh is removed!
1 Corinthians 15:50 KJV
[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Which kingdom?
howard, when I read your threads, they remind me of the Pixar short about the chess match in the park.
: MeMyself Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:03:31
howard, when I read your threads, they remind me of the Pixar short about the chess match in the park.
Actually that says a lot about you?
I have more verses than opinion in my thread.
What does the verses mean to you ?
This is what matter
Here is what is understood about people who can only give opinion and not the truth
Matthew 13:12-14 KJV
[12] For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. [13] Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [14] And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
This is not for them to hear or understand
Back to the truth
Here is something to chew on
Do you think that Jesus could have approached the Father without being circumcised wen he walked in the flesh?
Here is my reason why I ask this
This is future so lay this to heart and remember you read t!
Ezekiel 44:8-9 KJV
[8] And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves. [9] Thus saith the Lord God ; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.
Jesus is in the temple in his kingdom and look what he say about the stranger.
This tell me in Jesus kingdom there will be circumcision, we already know in the Father kingdom there will be No Flesh period
Where will the lake of fire be? It's not here on earth yet, it's not in the earth and satan is not barbecuing people there and no one is in it because it is not set up!
Isaiah 31:9 KJV
[9] And he shall pass over to his strong hold for fear, and his princes shall be afraid of the ensign, saith the Lord , whose fire is in Zion, and his furnace in Jerusalem.
Fact
The furnace of fire will be in Jerusalem
As we read earlier the two wicked men the Beast and Man of Sin will beat satan and the angels in it!
Revelation 19:19-20 KJV
[19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. [20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Read the rest of the chapter on your own.
Satan will not be cast into the lake of fire until after Jesus 1000 year rule. Buber read that The Lord took those 2 men and put them there first before satan
Revelation 20:7-8,10 KJV
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, [8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. [10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are , and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Man beat the evil angel to the lake of fire! WOW!
Lets read why God did this
This is future What you are about to read, John just told us who the people are in revelation 19 and 20
Isaiah 66:23-24 KJV
[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord . [24] And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
In the feast days when all representative of the nations come up before The Lord, before they go home they will have to look at this lake of fire and at those 2 men a d report back to the nations at what they saw when they looked down into hell!
Go back and read it again
It's the truth
Lets look at a verses that we are all familiar with but once you have read Isaiah and revelation your understanding should have increased 10 fold
Luke 16:19-23 KJV
[19] There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: [20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, [21] And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. [22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; [23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Notice the conversation
It's not in heaven, nor is it in the ground hell
It's in Jerusalem and Abraham is looking into the lake of fire at this rich man, now go back and Isaiah 66 again
Actually this is the Father's kingdom because in Jesus kingdom there is only 2 men on the fire
What you have read are visions of the future, there is no reason to e be ignorant in God's word
The answers are written.
Satan is not in hell
Hell as in lake of fire is not created
And guess what the rest of the evil angel will be thrown into the fire at judgement day
Lets read
1 Corinthians 6:3 KJV
[3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
This happens after Jesus kingdom on judgement day
I know you All know that the evil angels are not in a fire like we have heard form our parents or Hollywood or eve. Our churches
The evil angels are here with us on this earth
Lets read
Revelation 12:7-10,12-13 KJV
[7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. [10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. [12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. [13] And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child .
Satan and his angles are here on earth with us
Satan goes after big fish like Adam, Jesus. Peter And Job
The other evil angels comes after us
Truth is there is no secret that you can hide from
Satan
Ezekiel 28:3 KJV
[3] Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
This lets me know he can read your mind and he can influence our dreams
We keep secrets in our mind yet we cannot hide it from satan?
We read in revelation that he deceived the whole world when he hit the earth
Who did he start with?
Our mother
1 Timothy 2:14 KJV
[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
So we now know the truth and we will not let Hollywood or our church deceive us into thinking satan is in hell with a pitchfork barbecuing people
We know for a truth that satan is on the earth with us
We know for a fact that satan will be put into the fire after the 1000 year rule of Jesus
We know that evil angels are judged at judgement day by us
We know that satan walks the earth along with his evil angels looking for who
Righteous or the wicked people?
1 Peter 5:8 KJV
[8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1 John 3:10 KJV
[10] In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
: howard Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:19:02
: MeMyself Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:03:31
howard, when I read your threads, they remind me of the Pixar short about the chess match in the park.
Actually that says a lot about you?
It DOES?
Pray tell, howard, what *does* that say about me? (Other than I have great taste in animated movies, that is?)
: MeMyself Mon May 27, 2013 - 22:18:14
: howard Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:19:02
: MeMyself Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:03:31
howard, when I read your threads, they remind me of the Pixar short about the chess match in the park.
Actually that says a lot about you?
It DOES?
Pray tell, howard, what *does* that say about me? (Other than I have great taste in animated movies, that is?)
Your confession reminds me of what Paul said
2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [4] And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
All the verses as scriptures provided and the only comment is a personal opinion
Satan came better prepared
Luke 4:2-3,9-11 KJV
[2] Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. [3] And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. [9] And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: [10] For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: [11] And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Satan the devil comes to battle with the word of God
Satan will come to the fight with the word of God even if mix in some lies with. He will give some truth mixed in
Genesis 3:1,4-5 KJV
[1] Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? [4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: [5] For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Howard, please learn to consolidate your material into a single post.
Thank you,
Bond
: howard Tue May 28, 2013 - 04:40:17
: MeMyself Mon May 27, 2013 - 22:18:14
: howard Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:19:02
: MeMyself Mon May 27, 2013 - 20:03:31
howard, when I read your threads, they remind me of the Pixar short about the chess match in the park.
Actually that says a lot about you?
It DOES?
Pray tell, howard, what *does* that say about me? (Other than I have great taste in animated movies, that is?)
Your confession reminds me of what Paul said
My "confession"?
: howard Tue May 28, 2013 - 04:40:172 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [4] And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
That I have great taste in animated movies reminds you of THIS?!
Odd...
Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, (10) Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure
Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen
Colossians 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: (17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ
The trumpets of God in the last day is a truth, they will be blown
Leviticus 23:1-4, 23-25 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, (2) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, [Concerning] the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim [to be] holy convocations, [even] these [are] my feasts. (3) Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it [is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. (4)
These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which
ye shall proclaim in their seasons. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, (24) Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. (25) Ye shall do no servile work [therein]: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD
Holy convocations = holy gatherings
Servile = slavishly submissive or obsequious; fawning, working on a job.
We no longer do animal sacrifice or burnt offerings because Jesus was the final sacrifice, thus ending the Levitical Priesthood until he returns for the second time
Psalms 81:3-4 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. (4) For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Israel
Numbers 10:1-8 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, (2) Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. (3) And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. (4) And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee. (5) When ye blow an alarm, then the camps that lie on the east parts shall go forward. (6) When ye blow an alarm the second time, then the camps that lie on the south side shall take their journey: they shall blow an alarm for their journeys. (7) But when the congregation is to be gathered together, ye shall blow, but ye shall not sound an alarm. (8) And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations
The Priests blew the trumpet.
Revelation 1:7-8 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (8) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty
Exodus 19:9-11, 14-16, 19-20 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD. (10) And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, (11) And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the
people upon mount Sinai. And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes. (15) And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at [your] wives. (16) And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and
the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that [was] in the camp trembled. And when the voice of thetrumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice. (20) And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses [up] to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
Sanctify = Set apart
The trumpet sounded before the Lord came. It announced the coming of the Lord.
Joshua 6:1-4, 6-7, 10-11, 14-16, 20-21, 24 Now Jericho was straitly shut up because of the children of Israel: none went out, and none came in. (2) And the LORD said unto Joshua, See, I have given into thine hand Jericho, and the king thereof, [and] the mighty men of valour. (3) And ye shall compass the city, all [ye] men of war, [and] go round about the city once. Thus shalt thou do six days. (4) And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets. And Joshua the son of Nun called the priests, and said unto them, Take up the ark of the covenant, and let seven priests bear seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the LORD. (7) And he said unto the people, Pass on, and compass the city, and let him that is armed pass on before the ark of the LORD. And Joshua rose early in the morning, and the priests took up the ark of the LORD. (11) So the ark of the LORD compassed the city, going about it once: and they came into the camp, and lodged in the camp. And the second day they compassed the city once, and returned into the camp: so they did six days. (15) And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times. (16) And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city. So the people shouted when [the priests] blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. (21) And they utterly destroyed all that [was] in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
The Ark of the Covenant represents the presence of the Lord. He comes after the trumpets are blown.
Jericho is the example of what's going to happen to the world when the Lord Jesus returns
Before Jesus returns 7 trumpets have to be blown!
When Jesus return the whole world will know. Something is going down
2 Peter 3:10 KJV
[10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
People will not understand what is exactly happening, but they will know something is happening
At the sound of the trumpets this earth will be devastated
Revelation 8:1-2,6 KJV
[1] And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. [2] And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. [6] And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
When we get to to the last 3 trumpets, lets read
Who is ready for this?
Revelation 8:12 KJV
[12] And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
But wait the angel declared 3 more far worst than the 4th
Woe
Woe
Woe
Revelation 8:13 KJV
[13] And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
Truth of the matter is we will here these trumpets and we will see this angel flying around warning the people
If you think you getting raptures consider this verse
1 Peter 4:17-18 KJV
[17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? [18] And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
The righteous are scarcely saved!
What determines righteousness ?
Deuteronomy 6:24-25 KJV
[24] And the Lord commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the Lord our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. [25] And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the Lord our God, as he hath commanded us.
Where will the sinner appear? The sinner is the one who don't keep the commandments.
Revelation 9:1-6 KJV
[1] And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. [2] And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. [3] And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. [4] And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. [5] And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. [6] And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
The 5th trump will release biological weapons that will not hurt the grass and trees or environment but people.
But how can you know this unless God's high sabbath days are kept
Christians don't know about the high sabbaths
John 19:31 KJV
[31] The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
God has his memorials and its for all countries an its about worshiping the living God and preparing for the future destruction of the wicked
Leviticus 23:24-25 KJV
[24] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. [25] Ye shall do no servile work therein : but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord .
This is Jesus memorial
And the blowing of the trumpets is what we are suppose to remember
Before we go back to the trumpets keep this verses in mind when ever you read your bible
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
The trumpets use to be blown in the past, they will be blown in the future
Malachi 3:6 KJV
[6] For I am the Lord , I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
We read in the OT where The Lord had the trumpets blown at his coming, we will read in the future The Lord having the trumpets blown at his coming
Trumpets 6 is next
Revelation 9:14-18 KJV
[14] Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. [15] And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. [16] And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. [17] And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. [18] By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
At the 6 trump
We have then4 angels holding back the armies of the earth
We have the playground for the invasion of the eastern army coming across the Euphrates river
We have the 200 million man army
We have this arm killing a third part of man
Guess what people The Lord has not come yet
Look that what this 6th trump does
Some denominations and there minions teach that the 200 million man army is ready and waiting to invade Israel, we read were they will be at the Euphrates river. How can they teach such a lie? We have no ear the first 5 trumps yet. Go back and read the 3 we did not cover, there is so much stuff that has to happen before Jesus comes!
Can we handle the truth when Paul said the Lord CANNOT come back any day
2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Here comes The Lord and all the things that come with his coming
Revelation 10:7 KJV
[7] But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Revelation 11:14-19 KJV
[14] The second woe is past; and , behold, the third woe cometh quickly. [15] And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. [16] And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, [17] Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. [18] And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. [19] And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Here is a truth that no one ever mention except in error
Look at what it says about Jesus finishing.
Jesus did not finish at his death or resurrection
Read it again when he finished
The 7th trump brings The Lord lets get more witnesses and truths
1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJV
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
We also have the resurrection
1 Corinthians 15:51-54 KJV
[51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, [52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. [53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. [54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
We have both resurrection above the 1st and judgement day
How many people you know keep the memorial of the blowing of the trumpets
How many here know the 7 trumpets bring devastation upon the earth an the last trump brings Jesus
How many know that 7 trumpets releases a vial upon the earth held by 7 other angels
All this happens after the Abomination of desolation 3.5 year rule
How many know that the 7 trumpets and 7 vials is the wrath of the lamb?
Paul said Jesus cannot come any day. Jesus cannot come tomorrow , next week or next year! Jesus cannot come until the AOD is revealed. Jesus cannot come until The 7 trumpets are blown
Can we handle the truth
It's very sad that my brothers and sisters in Jesus have not been informed that God's feast days are about prophesy even Jesus coming the 2nd time.
We went over the trumpets and that's the abbreviated version
Lets look at the day of Pentecost which we all connect it to the Pentecostal church who don't have a clue on what it represent.
We all know Acts 2 concerning the pouring out of the Holy Spirt
But there is something else that is always over looked
Lets pay close attention to what Peter says in the chapter
Acts 2:1,16-21 KJV
[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: [18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: [19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: [20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: [21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
After the Holy Spirit did its thing, Peter switched gears and took the day in another direction
Look who is going to happen in the future on this day of Pentecost. We know it did not happen that day
We know it did not happen after or prior to today. So it must be future
Read it again and pay attention.to the sun and moon and the prophet Joel which we will get his
Witness among with Matthew, John and some prophets concerning the day of Pentecost
On the day Of pentecost The Lord will show wonders/signs in the heavens
Acts 2:19-20 KJV
[19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: [20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Lets go read the OT the book of Joel like Peter said
Joel 2:1-2,10 KJV
[1] Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand; [2] A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. [10] The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Now go and read all the events the happens when the signs in happen. These things happen on the day of Pentecost. Read the whole chapter
Why don't the churches teach the truth God's holy days are not done away with
This is the chapter Peter quoted
Joel 2:29-32 KJV
[29] And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. [30] And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. [31] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come. [32] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
Paul is telling us the when the sun is darkened and the moon turns to blood it will be on the day of Pentecost on a Sunday!
On a Sunday
On a Sunday
The day of Pentecost is always on a Sunday
Leviticus 23:10,15-16 KJV
[10] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest: [15] And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: [16] Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord .
Pentecost means 50
He shall count seven sabbath and the morrow after the sabbath is Sunday
Lets read what Jesus said about the day of Pentecost
Matthew 24:29-30 KJV
[29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
After the great tribulation on the day of Pentecost on a Sunday will the sun be darkened and the moon turn red
John says that the the 6th seal is opened and the heavens are rolled back and the sun is darkened the moon is turned to blood we know that this is the day of Pentecost
Revelation 6:12-14 KJV
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; [13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. [14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
On the day of Pentecost the 6th seal is opened
Remember we are taught that the OT is fulfilled
Which is not the truth
How did we come to this understanding? By reading God's word the way he said, line upon line here a little and there a little. We can read the entire chapters but eventually we have to get to the place we seek
Isaiah 28:9-10,13 KJV
[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. [10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: [13] But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
This is how knowledge is taught
Lets head back to revelation 12 and look at something that all prophecy teachers miss, I guarantee you won't miss it once you put it together
What the next high holy day after Pentecost? Remember the heavens are rolled back the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood. Look at what else is happening on this day.
Revelation 6:12-17 KJV
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; [13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. [14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. [15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; [16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: [17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
We are looking at Jesus, The Father and the holy angels.
Now what holy day is next?
Trumpets
When?
At least 5 months later
We will be looking at The Lord for at least 5 months
Pentecost
Leviticus 23:15-16 KJV
[15] And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: [16] Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord .
Next holy day of God
Leviticus 23:23-24,26-27 KJV
[23] And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, [24] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. [26] And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, [27] Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord .
Remember the 7 trumpet brings The Lord
we see The Lord above us at least for 5 months
It is written every eye will see him
Revelation 1:7 KJV
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
what if you are dead? Jesus will awake those dead to see him
What if you are blind? Jesus will give eyes to see
Every eye ever born will see him
in the Lord's prayer the truth is that the Kingdom will come to earth and when this happens God's will be done in the earth.
Matthew 6:10
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
God's kingdom is not here and his will is not done in the earth
the prayer of the Lord has future meaning even beyond us
Matthew 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
if we all said the Lord's prayer maybe we would not have starvation upon the earth or in our family
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
the Lord tells us to forgive those we owe and those who owe us, why then are we repenting and asking forgiveness in the Lord prayer?
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
wait a minute you mean we who pray this prayer have to pray not to be delivered into temptation, you mean I have to pray not to be delivered into evil?
YES
Ephesians 3:13-15 KJV
[13] Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory. [14] For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, [15] Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
What is the name of the whole family God?
Jesus
Jehovah
YHWH
Israel
: howard Tue Jun 04, 2013 - 19:27:17
Ephesians 3:13-15 KJV
[13] Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory. [14] For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, [15] Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
What is the name of the whole family God?
Jesus
Jehovah
YHWH
Israel
the commonwealth of Israel - Ephesians 2:12
You asked about the name of the FAMILY, not God Himself.