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Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 11:37:12


Man is the head, woman the neck turning the head.  Team effort.  Women behaving badly makes men behave worse. 

Quote from: MeMyself on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 11:45:43
Then, if that is true, then men aren't much of a leader are they?  If this is true, they are just little boys being driven by their emotion and aren't worthy of the leadership God grants them. Fortunately, that is not the case with many men. They know the buck stops with them, what they are responsible for and they act like grown men who take responsibility and set boundaries for their own behaviors.

Ahhh, excellent point.

MF I say this to help you,  think I need to warn you that you are very unlikely to ever fine a nice young lady to marry unless you change your somewhat hypocritical, self centered, arrogant, sexist and holier than thou attitudes and behaviour. They would probably find it very off putting. I suggest that you spend some time talking to and praying with some older godly men who can set you straight and get you on the right path. 

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 11:58:59
MF I say this to help you,  think I need to warn you that you are very unlikely to ever fine a nice young lady to marry unless you change your somewhat hypocritical, self centered, arrogant, sexist and holier than thou attitudes and behaviour. They would probably find it very off putting. I suggest that you spend some time talking to and praying with some older godly men who can set you straight and get you on the right path.

Amen. May I also add, I doubt any father here would want his young, virginal daughter to marry a 30 year old narcissist who has been around the block more than a few times.

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Good grief, this just gets better and better, so it was THEIR fault that they didnt want to marry a man who has had  a casual sexual relationship with them, as well as with several other women, because they were 'unrepentant?'Maybe they just didnt like you enough and didnt see you as a future husband.

Have you seen the music video "Black Jesus" by Everlast?  That is what happened.  I don't have to defend myself to you or explain it anymore.  You do not have eyes to see or ears to hear. 

Given I am a prophet, and I am an American, if I were to marry a Non-virgin, then it would be bad for the United States given the United States is a Covenanted Nation. 

Why are you defending these women?  Women you know nothing about except for what I have told you. 

QuoteTell me do you have a church where you go to get teaching? If so what do they say about you thinking you are a levite? About these very sexist beliefs? 

Christ is to man as man is to woman.  (1 Corinthians 11:3)  God doesn't judge men and women equally.  (Isaiah 4) The Bible is the Patriarchy, God the head Patriarch.  In the early Church, there were 5 Patriarchs one of which was the Bishop of Rome.  Those Feminists, working to destroy the Patriarchy, are Satanists or sheep who accepted poison from wolves.  You seem to have bought into it. 

QuoteThen, if that is true, then men aren't much of a leader are they?  If this is true, they are just little boys being driven by their emotion and aren't worthy of the leadership God grants them. Fortunately, that is not the case with many men. They know the buck stops with them, what they are responsible for and they act like grown men who take responsibility and set boundaries for their own behaviors.

The whole goal of feminism is to make weak men, and "empower" women.  To lead people into sin and hurt and death.  The wages of sin are death.  Death to God's Spirit.  You become of the Flesh and instead of The Spirit.  This is supposed to be the Satanic Century, and the Age of Lilith according to Satanist Anton Levay.  The goal of Feminism is ultimately lesbianism because they become so hurt by men, and they cannot seem to find a good one. (Isaiah 4)(Ecclesiastes 1:9-11)

You all seem to be wanting to judge and fight me, instead of being silent, and learning, and working to build God's Kingdom.  If we are going to build God's Kingdom, then women need to police themselves up in their sphere.  I am not a woman.  I am just pointing you towards the right direction.  I work to create a better man and a wiser woman. 

Manonfire, I'm not going to read anymore of your garbage.

Quote from: mommydi on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 12:06:35
Manonfire, I'm not going to read anymore of your garbage.

Good plan!  I was just thinking the very same thing.

Even though ignoring him and refusing to be taught by him means that our nation's well being is at stake...    

QuoteThen, if that is true, then men aren't much of a leader are they?  If this is true, they are just little boys being driven by their emotion and aren't worthy of the leadership God grants them. Fortunately, that is not the case with many men. They know the buck stops with them, what they are responsible for and they act like grown men who take responsibility and set boundaries for their own behaviors.

I had only been with one woman to the age of 24.  I was married for four years or so.  She was not on my team.  Running to another man's authority is a form of adultery, and the fact that she did it showed a lot about what may have been going on behind closed doors.  She was not a virgin when I married her, and a woman who falls into sin is often made a liar.

I was mad at the world for awhile.  Everything I had was tied up into my marriage.  I felted shamed to the point where I didn't want to talk to or see anyone I knew before.  I was depressed to the point of destitution.  It was like my whole life was suddenly flushed down the toilet, and all I had was a job in the Army.  I still believed in God, and had worked to do things his way, but I decided to try things the world's way for awhile.  For the next five years, I woke up hoping to die everyday.  I was miserable.  It was a struggle to keep going.  I just did what I needed to do in order to keep up my morale, and keep going, and that was going to bars alone a lot, and coming home alone a lot.  That was my whole social life, and I needed it to feel healthy. 

My 20's there was not much but a lot of rejections.  Everything I wanted to do, goals I made, fell flat.  I was miserable.  I drank a lot.  I knew what would make me better.  I needed a wife and companion.  Someone who I could love, but I needed to find a career where I could like I could support a family.  I could never quite find someone who I felt was a good fit for me.  Someone I knew I could trust, nor was I able to find a job other than Substitute Teaching after I left the Army.  October 2013 I moved from Washington State to Tennessee.  I knew no one in Tennessee, and had never been to the town I was moving into before, but something about it felt right in my gut.  I am a certified teacher, but through the VA I received money to go back to school, and I was going to get a second undergraduate in construction management, and look for wife to start a life with.  By the time I got down there, found a job, an apartment, and moved in, I was sitting on my new porch, and an Angel whispered in my ear, "Friend of God."  From there I was in training, and my depression went away, and there was little to me except for God, and I learned to talk to him.

I have suffered a lot, and many of you seem to think that men and women are equal.  If you want to be equal with me, and judge me, then I hope God gives you trials as I have had trials if it brings him Glory,  so you can become perfect and complete lacking in nothing, and grow in Faith and Patience, patience you have not shown me here as you judged me, instead of asking questions to understand me. (James 1:2-4)

I had a deployment in Afghanistan.  Afghanistan wasn't hard in and of itself in my opinion.  The depression I was feeling made it miserable, and the hardest long term thing I had to do for a twelve month period.  I didn't want to come home.  I felt I had lived a good life, and there was nothing back state side for me.  Why? After being divorced and learning what the single life was really like, I felt womanhood had failed me as a man.  I was mad at women for a long time. 

A woman betters peoples quality of life in a Proverbs 31 type of way.  She has intrinsic worth as a woman.  A female is a genderless object that is often used.   

Sitting around in Afghanistan for my first six months, I did what most soldiers do, I made a list of things I wanted to do when I went on leave for 15 days.  I was working 12 hours a day 7 days a week and really needed that break.  On the top of my list....I wanted to go on a date with a woman.  Nothing too forward or that needed a commitment.  I just wanted to enjoy the company of a woman for lunch and get a hug.  After six months of not being around any women, and working such long hours with no weekends, holidays, or any relief, I really valued what a woman brings into a man's life.  I set up a date with a woman I found on facebook.  She was two years younger than me and had a crush on me in high school.  A day or two before our lunch date she became weird on me.  She blew me off.  I didn't have time to find someone else, and I wasn't going to look desperate.  A week or so later, I am sitting in Kuwait waiting to go back to Afghanistan and she is in a relationship.  I guess she was just looking for attention, and flattered by the attention I was giving her? 

Being single is rough now-a-days.  Part of my routine in Afghanistan is I went to Askmen website almost everyday to learn about women, and what men were doing that was working, and to help make myself a better man.  What I found out is some soul crushing truths about women in the Post Modern World, and Men looking for a good one often have to play all sorts of ugly games.  All that advice...it works.  It went against everything I was taught about how to deal with women, but it works.  As I researched and observed, and as God opened my eyes later, I found it had a lot to do with sin and female perceptions of what is right. 

I was really mad at women.  I have right to be.  I don't see that any of you are any better.   You seem unrepentant, and excusing of sin, and finger pointing, and accusing.  Be Angry and Sin Not. 

Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 13:11:46
I had a deployment in Afghanistan.  Afghanistan wasn't hard in and of itself in my opinion.  The depression I was feeling made it miserable, and the hardest long term thing I had to do for a twelve month period.  I didn't want to come home.  I felt I had lived a good life, and there was nothing back state side for me.  Why? After being divorced and learning what the single life was really like, I felt womanhood had failed me as a man.  I was mad at women for a long time. 

A woman betters peoples quality of life in a Proverbs 31 type of way.  She has intrinsic worth as a woman.  A female is a genderless object that is often used.   

Sitting around in Afghanistan for my first six months, I did what most soldiers do, I made a list of things I wanted to do when I went on leave for 15 days.  I was working 12 hours a day 7 days a week and really needed that break.  On the top of my list....I wanted to go on a date with a woman.  Nothing too forward or that needed a commitment.  I just wanted to enjoy the company of a woman for lunch and get a hug.  After six months of not being around any women, and working such long hours with no weekends, holidays, or any relief, I really valued what a woman brings into a man's life.  I set up a date with a woman I found on facebook.  She was two years younger than me and had a crush on me in high school.  A day or two before our lunch date she became weird on me.  She blew me off.  I didn't have time to find someone else, and I wasn't going to look desperate.  A week or so later, I am sitting in Kuwait waiting to go back to Afghanistan and she is in a relationship.  I guess she was just looking for attention, and flattered by the attention I was giving her? 

Being single is rough now-a-days.  Part of my routine in Afghanistan is I went to Askmen website almost everyday to learn about women, and what men were doing that was working, and to help make myself a better man.  What I found out is some soul crushing truths about women in the Post Modern World, and Men looking for a good one often have to play all sorts of ugly games.  All that advice...it works.  It went against everything I was taught about how to deal with women, but it works.  As I researched and observed, and as God opened my eyes later, I found it had a lot to do with sin and female perceptions of what is right. 

I was really mad at women.  I have right to be.  I don't see that any of you are any better.   You seem unrepentant, and excusing of sin, and finger pointing, and accusing.  Be Angry and Sin Not.

Ah so the truth comes out, you were/are angry and bitter towards woman because of the woman you married and one or two other women. (you still are BTW). OK.

I have many reasons to hate men and be bitter towards men, one of them because my dads long affair led to my mums suicide. Another because of the appalling things my ex husband did.
Guess what, I am not. I have forgiven and I know that not all men are the same, I know that there are good and godly men out there, one of whom I am married to. Some of whom are on this forum. Just as there are many good and godly women out there.
None of us here have excused sin in anyway, rather you excuse mans sin while making womens sin to be worse. You have a  real downer on women and blame them for everything that has happened to you. You will never attract a godly woman with this attitude believe me.  Men have many ways of getting their girlfriends to have sex with them, such as 'if you loved me you would......' To imply that its more the women who deceive is entirely untrue.   

I would get yourself into a good Bible believing church and get some accountability with mature male believers.

I think you need to go to the Bible and not some men's website to learn how to treat women and what actually makes women tick. 

Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 12:36:42

QuoteThen, if that is true, then men aren't much of a leader are they?  If this is true, they are just little boys being driven by their emotion and aren't worthy of the leadership God grants them. Fortunately, that is not the case with many men. They know the buck stops with them, what they are responsible for and they act like grown men who take responsibility and set boundaries for their own behaviors.

I had only been with one woman to the age of 24.  I was married for four years or so.  She was not on my team.  Running to another man's authority is a form of adultery, and the fact that she did it showed a lot about what may have been going on behind closed doors.  She was not a virgin when I married her, and a woman who falls into sin is often made a liar.

I was mad at the world for awhile.  Everything I had was tied up into my marriage.  I felted shamed to the point where I didn't want to talk to or see anyone I knew before.  I was depressed to the point of destitution.  It was like my whole life was suddenly flushed down the toilet, and all I had was a job in the Army.  I still believed in God, and had worked to do things his way, but I decided to try things the world's way for awhile.  For the next five years, I woke up hoping to die everyday.  I was miserable.  It was a struggle to keep going.  I just did what I needed to do in order to keep up my morale, and keep going, and that was going to bars alone a lot, and coming home alone a lot.  That was my whole social life, and I needed it to feel healthy. 

My 20's there was not much but a lot of rejections.  Everything I wanted to do, goals I made, fell flat.  I was miserable.  I drank a lot.  I knew what would make me better.  I needed a wife and companion.  Someone who I could love, but I needed to find a career where I could like I could support a family.  I could never quite find someone who I felt was a good fit for me.  Someone I knew I could trust, nor was I able to find a job other than Substitute Teaching after I left the Army.  October 2013 I moved from Washington State to Tennessee.  I knew no one in Tennessee, and had never been to the town I was moving into before, but something about it felt right in my gut.  I am a certified teacher, but through the VA I received money to go back to school, and I was going to get a second undergraduate in construction management, and look for wife to start a life with.  By the time I got down there, found a job, an apartment, and moved in, I was sitting on my new porch, and an Angel whispered in my ear, "Friend of God."  From there I was in training, and my depression went away, and there was little to me except for God, and I learned to talk to him.

I have suffered a lot, and many of you seem to think that men and women are equal.  If you want to be equal with me, and judge me, then I hope God gives you trials as I have had trials if it brings him Glory,  so you can become perfect and complete lacking in nothing, and grow in Faith and Patience, patience you have not shown me here as you judged me, instead of asking questions to understand me. (James 1:2-4)

I have been through far more trials than you could imagine.  A counsellor I saw a few years back said she has never met anyone who has been through more. So you dont need to talk to me about trials, but if there is one thing that I cant abide its arrogant people. You remind me a little of the way that muslim men see and talk about women.Demeaning them, blaming them, putting them down, holding them responsible  for their own sins.   

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Ah so the truth comes out, you were/are angry and bitter towards woman because of the woman you married and one or two other women. (you still are BTW). OK.

I am not angry towards women.  I know God's Love.  I tell the Truth.  The Truth hurts.  Don't want no Revenge, aint no payback time, it aint about getting even, it is Reckoning.   

QuoteI have been through far more trials than you will never have to know. A counsellor I saw a few years back said she has never met anyone who has been through more. So you dont need to talk to me about trials, but if there is one thing that I cant abide its arrogant people. You remind me a little of the way that muslim men see and talk about women.

It is really not a contest to see whose genitalia is bigger.  What did you learn from your trials?  If you are arguing with me, than you did not learn the right lessons.  Fear God.  You fear God in a way you might fear going against your dad's will.  Growing up my parents only spanked me a few times.  The fear of going against my dad's will kept me from doing much wrong.  It wasn't just a fear of the Rod, but a fear of his disapproval.  It is rough you didn't have a great male role model in your dad.  How many children grow up today without their biological father.  How can those children learn a healthy fear of God without that patriarchal role model? 

God has the world by its balls right now.  Revelations is happening.  Repentance can lessen what is to come. 
Man is the head, woman the neck turning the head.  The Greater Church is a Bride for Christ. It turns his head. 
You turned me in a way that I thought you deserved trials because of your attitude and judgments.  How do you think the Greater Church is turning God right now? 

Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 14:54:21

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Ah so the truth comes out, you were/are angry and bitter towards woman because of the woman you married and one or two other women. (you still are BTW). OK.

I am not angry towards women.  I know God's Love.  I tell the Truth.  The Truth hurts.  Don't want no Revenge, aint no payback time, it aint about getting even, it is Reckoning.   

QuoteI have been through far more trials than you will never have to know. A counsellor I saw a few years back said she has never met anyone who has been through more. So you dont need to talk to me about trials, but if there is one thing that I cant abide its arrogant people. You remind me a little of the way that muslim men see and talk about women.

It is really not a contest to see whose genitalia is bigger.  What did you learn from your trials?  If you are arguing with me, than you did not learn the right lessons.  Fear God.  You fear God in a way you might fear going against your dad's will.  Growing up my parents only spanked me a few times.  The fear of going against my dad's will kept me from doing much wrong.  It wasn't just a fear of the Rod, but a fear of his disapproval.  It is rough you didn't have a great male role model in your dad.  How many children grow up today without their biological father.  How can those children learn a healthy fear of God without that patriarchal role model? 

God has the world by its balls right now.  Revelations is happening.  Repentance can lessen what is to come. 
Man is the head, woman the neck turning the head.  The Greater Church is a Bride for Christ. It turns his head. 
You turned me in a way that I thought you deserved trials because of your attitude and judgments.  How do you think the Greater Church is turning God right now?

We are disagreeing with you and your attitudes. We are pointing out your sexist thoughts and words. We are warning you that women dont like men who have that 'holier than thou men are better than women idea'.
We are pointing out that your idea that men having sex before marriage isnt as bad as women havings sex before isnt Biblical. That your idea that you must have a virgin when you yourself have slept around is very hypocritical. That you are not a levite unless you are a Jew descended from the tribe of Levite. That God sees our past sins as having been washed away,therefore to Him, a women who has repented of past sexual sin is once more a virgin.
I see no arguments here. Just mature believers who have children older than you trying to get you on track.

BTW do you have a good church you go to with accountability? 

A woman who has repented of past sexual sin is forgiven, but not a virgin.  Same goes for a man.  There are physical consequences on earth for our actions.

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We are disagreeing with you and your attitudes. We are pointing out your sexist thoughts and words. We are warning you that women dont like men who have that 'holier than thou men are better than women idea'.
We are pointing out that your idea that men having sex before marriage isnt as bad as women havings sex before isnt Biblical. That your idea that you must have a virgin when you yourself have slept around is very hypocritical. That you are not a levite unless you are a Jew descended from the tribe of Levite. That God sees our past sins as having been washed away,therefore to Him, a women who has repented of past sexual sin is once more a virgin.
I see no arguments here. Just mature believers who have children older than you trying to get you on track.

BTW do you have a good church you go to with accountability? 

Men and woman are different.  They need different things, different types of attention, Love, and understanding.  I have not stated that one is better than the other, but that it is a team effort.  This is thread is about if a woman's sexual sins are sins against her husband.  The answer is yes.  A man is supposed to be a leader.  You seem to put all the blame on men.  Every time I bring up something women do wrong, you point the finger at men.  It is all their fault?  That is wrong.  Love is patient and kind, and a harlot is neither.  If she couldn't wait for marriage, then will she be able to wait for me if I have to go to war?  A harlot is like a star.  She has orbiters.  A man can date a woman for a month or two with the best of intentions and she may have slept with three or four men.  Do you know what that makes that man?  A fool.  Especially if he marries her.  Those men will think he is the worst fool. 

Women used to be seen as virtuous.  They were wives and mothers and loved.  What are they today? 

You have this idea, that because I stated I am like The Prodigal Son, and am a Bridegroom Looking for a Bride, which needs to be a virgin, that I am undeserving of a virgin wife because of my sins.  That is wrong.  Who are you to make that judgment?  A virgin wife is the ideal.  I have given you many examples of why. 

There is a way to become spiritually a virgin like Virgin Israel.  You are correct.  It is not the same thing for what God needs me to do.  It is not the same thing.  If I were to marry a non-virgin with my calling, than that would be rewarding bad behavior regardless of the other reasons I gave.  I guess it would be ok for many girls to be more worried about losing their cellphone than their virginity? I guess it is ok for Hugh Hefner to date three women on rotation, but hey, when his done with them, some man can marry one?  Hugh Hefner dates three woman on a rotation.  I guess I could have three non-virgin wives and that would be ok? 

Levite.  Elisha asks for a double portion of Elijah's spirit.  I asked God for whatever I needed to bring him Glory.  I had an event similar to what Elisha went gone through.  Jesus wasn't there.  I did not see him at the end.  I told you I tried to marry about a half dozen women over summer 2014 similar to "Black Jesus" Everlast.  I opened up my heart to each one, and put all my love and hope and future into them until they showed me their true selves, and/or God showed me things about them in an Ezekiel 8 type of way.  I had not been in sin with all these women.  They were women from my past I believed I could be happy with.  Each one hurt.  I found my heart was wrapped around these woman.  One at a time, would purge them from my heart after I could take no more, deleted them out of my phone and life, and then walked around downtown Durham similar to Ezekiel after God took his wife.  Ezekiel is Son of Man. Ezekiel is a Levite.  I am not Jesus.  At the end of the process I had a heart like God's exactly how the Bible describes it.  It was on fire. 

I was truly born again.  I died to myself, and I gave up everything in my life for God.  I even went into homelessness.  I was made to suffer till my will and goals were almost completely the same as God's.  That is the Church I belong to, and I live it everyday. 

There are 16 year old men and 40 year old boys.  A lot of modern young men go from their Mom's, to Universities, to their girlfriends, and do not know what it means to be a man or to take care of themselves.  Many are just looking for a good time.  I was at a bar in a college town.  A young woman about to graduate was crying and lamenting this very thing because her boyfriend of a few years had just broke up with her.  Her eyes were open and she could see what happened.  Now she is a bit jaded toward men.  She should have waited till he put a ring on it.  That was common sense about 50 years ago.  It still is in many parts of the world. 

Fall on most University campuses around the country is like deer hunting season for 18 year old girls.  Young men with bad intentions.  Many girls at universities are open to experimenting because that is what the world tells them is Good.  They are wrong.  They are hurting themselves, and their potential families in the future. 

Who makes a better husband for a virgin girl?  A boy who doesn't know who is, or what he wants, or where he is going?  A man who knows who is, is grounded, and knows exactly what he wants?  Personally, I would rather see men with a similar perspective as me end up with those 18 year old's then watch them run out of the pharmacy near the college at 7:00 am in their pajamas with tears in their eyes because they made a mistake and got Plan B. 

Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 16:19:39

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We are disagreeing with you and your attitudes. We are pointing out your sexist thoughts and words. We are warning you that women dont like men who have that 'holier than thou men are better than women idea'.
We are pointing out that your idea that men having sex before marriage isnt as bad as women havings sex before isnt Biblical. That your idea that you must have a virgin when you yourself have slept around is very hypocritical. That you are not a levite unless you are a Jew descended from the tribe of Levite. That God sees our past sins as having been washed away,therefore to Him, a women who has repented of past sexual sin is once more a virgin.
I see no arguments here. Just mature believers who have children older than you trying to get you on track.

BTW do you have a good church you go to with accountability? 

Men and woman are different.  They need different things, different types of attention, Love, and understanding.  I have not stated that one is better than the other, but that it is a team effort.  This is thread is about if a woman's sexual sins are sins against her husband.  The answer is yes.  A man is supposed to be a leader.  You seem to put all the blame on men.  Every time I bring up something women do wrong, you point the finger at men.  It is all their fault?  That is wrong.  Love is patient and kind, and a harlot is neither.  If she couldn't wait for marriage, then will she be able to wait for me if I have to go to war?  A harlot is like a star.  She has orbiters.  A man can date a woman for a month or two with the best of intentions and she may have slept with three or four men.  Do you know what that makes that man?  A fool.  Especially if he marries her.  Those men will think he is the worst fool. 

Women used to be seen as virtuous.  They were wives and mothers and loved.  What are they today? 

You have this idea, that because I stated I am like The Prodigal Son, and am a Bridegroom Looking for a Bride, which needs to be a virgin, that I am undeserving of a virgin wife because of my sins.  That is wrong.  Who are you to make that judgment?  A virgin wife is the ideal.  I have given you many examples of why. 

There is a way to become spiritually a virgin like Virgin Israel.  You are correct.  It is not the same thing for what God needs me to do.  It is not the same thing.  If I were to marry a non-virgin with my calling, than that would be rewarding bad behavior regardless of the other reasons I gave.  I guess it would be ok for many girls to be more worried about losing their cellphone than their virginity? I guess it is ok for Hugh Hefner to date three women on rotation, but hey, when his done with them, some man can marry one?  Hugh Hefner dates three woman on a rotation.  I guess I could have three non-virgin wives and that would be ok? 

Levite.  Elisha asks for a double portion of Elijah's spirit.  I asked God for whatever I needed to bring him Glory.  I had an event similar to what Elisha went gone through.  Jesus wasn't there.  I did not see him at the end.  I told you I tried to marry about a half dozen women over summer 2014 similar to "Black Jesus" Everlast.  I opened up my heart to each one, and put all my love and hope and future into them until they showed me their true selves, and/or God showed me things about them in an Ezekiel 8 type of way.  I had not been in sin with all these women.  They were women from my past I believed I could be happy with.  Each one hurt.  I found my heart was wrapped around these woman.  One at a time, would purge them from my heart after I could take no more, deleted them out of my phone and life, and then walked around downtown Durham similar to Ezekiel after God took his wife.  Ezekiel is Son of Man. Ezekiel is a Levite.  I am not Jesus.  At the end of the process I had a heart like God's exactly how the Bible describes it.  It was on fire. 

I was truly born again.  I died to myself, and I gave up everything in my life for God.  I even went into homelessness.  I was made to suffer till my will and goals were almost completely the same as God's.  That is the Church I belong to, and I live it everyday.

You have therefore sinned against any future wife you have also.


Yes I am pretty well aware of what men are like and what they need,  I am happily married and I have an adult son, 2 adult step sons and 2 brothers. Its nothing to do with you 'deserving' a virgin wife, its nothing to do with deserving anything, its the fact that you, a man who has had sex outside marriage himself, now thinks for some reason that a woman who has done the same is not worthy to be your wife even if she has been forgiven. Its sheer hypocrisy on your part.  You call women who have had sex before marriage 'harlots', which is highly offensive and quite disgusting, when they arent, yet you dont use the same derogatory terms for men who have done the same. You then say that a man who marries a women who has slept with different men is a fool, well in that case any woman who marries you would also be  fool. How could she ever trust you either, a man who has had sex with several women? It goes both ways.


  so you have no church, you are out on your own and you disobey Gods instructions to meet with other believers?

1 Corinthians 12:20-25New International Version (NIV)

20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other.


Did you know that everyone who comes here who has gone WAY off track is like you, in that they are off on their own thinking they dont need Biblical teaching or accountability or to be part of the body with other believers. You need to spend time with older mature believers who can get you back on the right track.You need guidance and teaching and advice and Biblical leading from those who God has chosen for that task. From older married man who can help you understand what marriage is all about and how to treat women and how to talk to them and about them. At this time you seem to have very little idea about that.   

Your calling is NOT as a levite,because you are not descended from the Lelites, so this thing about you HAVING to marry a virgin is nonsense and as you arent a virgin then why should a virgin marry you anyway? If she has waited, then she may well want a man who hasnt slept with other women either, and thats her choice as well.

As for Hugh Heffner, why you keep bringing him up I have no idea, he is a deeply sinful man who uses his money made through porn to get women. He isnt a Christian and unless he becomes one very soon before he dies, he will regret every second of his sordid life.

Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 16:38:53
There are 16 year old men and 40 year old boys.  A lot of modern young men go from their Mom's, to Universities, to their girlfriends, and do not know what it means to be a man or to take care of themselves.  Many are just looking for a good time.  I was at a bar in a college town.  A young woman about to graduate was crying and lamenting this very thing because her boyfriend of a few years had just broke up with her.  Her eyes were open and she could see what happened.  Now she is a bit jaded toward men.  She should have waited till he put a ring on it.  That was common sense about 50 years ago.  It still is in many parts of the world. 

Fall on most University campuses around the country is like deer hunting season for 18 year old girls.  Young men with bad intentions.  Many girls at universities are open to experimenting because that is what the world tells them is Good.  They are wrong.  They are hurting themselves, and their potential families in the future. 

Who makes a better husband for a virgin girl?  A boy who doesn't know who is, or what he wants, or where he is going?  A man who knows who is, is grounded, and knows exactly what he wants?  Personally, I would rather see men with a similar perspective as me end up with those 18 year old's then watch them run out of the pharmacy near the college at 7:00 am in their pajamas with tears in their eyes because they made a mistake and got Plan B.

WHat makes you think that a teenage girl will be interested in a 30 year old man? I would have though that pretty weird if a man of that age went after me when I was in my teens. Few 18 years olds are interested in marriage, they want a career and to get through college and have a bit of a life first.

Many guys I know have left home and looked after themselves. My son did and my older step travelled over to OZ on his own in  his 20's, got work and a place to live and is now happily married.

QuoteYes I am pretty well aware of what men are like and what they need,  I am happily married and I have an adult son, 2 adult step sons and 2 brothers. Its nothing to do with you 'deserving' a virgin wife, its nothing to do with deserving anything, its the fact that you, a man who has had sex outside marriage himself, now thinks for some reason that a woman who has done the same is not worthy to be your wife even if she has been forgiven. Its sheer hypocrisy on your part.  You call women who have had sex before marriage 'harlots', which is highly offensive and quite disgusting, when they arent, yet you dont use the same derogatory terms for men who have done the same. You then say that a man who marries a women who has slept with different men is a fool, well in that case any woman who marries you would also be  fool. How could she ever trust you either, a man who has had sex with several women? It goes both ways.

You have claimed you are not feminist, but you keep coming with feminist lingo.  A Levite could only marry a virgin. Why?  God is reason.  His justice is perfect.  Why would he only allow his priestly tribe to only marry virgins?  I have been explaining it to you. 

She is not married.  She is not divorced.  She is not a widow.  She is not a virgin.  What is she?  In most cases, in God's eyes, and throughout many millennium of history, across cultures, she is an immoral woman, unless it was taken from her by an immoral man, and she is repentant and wants to do right immediately.  God is a man of honor.  There is personal honor and family honor.  You can clearly see this with how Levi and Simon dealt with the rapist of Dinah. 


 

Quoteso you have no church, you are out on your own and you disobey Gods instructions to meet with other believers?

God is calling the Greater Church back together.  If I was to choose a Church it may appear to be favoritism.  I minister and produce things over the internet on social media for free. 

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20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other.

We are a Body of Christ.  We all have our roll within the Body. Some are the hands, the feet, the eyes, the mouth, and so on.  If your left hand causes you to sin, then cut if off.  If Miley Cyrus is part of the Body of Christ and has influence over believers then she is cut off from media and publicity. 

They recently dug up an old Mongol City in Russia.  It was multicultural.  There was freedom of religion.  Not like today.  There was a Christian quarter to the city.   If you were Christian, then you live among other Christians and lived as a Christian with respect to the law.  You were cut off from non-Christians to a large degree. Not like Post Modern America. 

QuoteWHat makes you think that a teenage girl will be interested in a 30 year old man? I would have though that pretty weird if a man of that age went after me when I was in my teens. Few 18 years olds are interested in marriage, they want a career and to get through college and have a bit of a life first.

18 year old girls are not interest in marriage and love?  Did they have their hearts broken in their teens?  Do they plan to experiment during college?  Many women in the past have gone to college for their Mrs. Degree. 

I have not pursued anyone in almost a year in September other than one.  As I said, after my trials I mentioned, I developed a heart like God.  God and I made one of the greatest interceptions in all of history.  I ended up with a celebrity dancing around in my heart similar to how the Bible describes God's.  Shelter me in your heart Oh Lord.  Since than God has sucked my motivation out of me for pursuing anyone else.  I believe I am waiting for the last Blood Moon.  It may end up being an Ezekiel 23 type of thing.  We will see.  I live day by day serving the Lord with no real long term plans.  You can read about all this in the links on my profile if you care to.  Given I ended up Peter the Roman, a Justinian, than she was my Theodora.  It was actually the greatest experience of my life even with its ups and downs. 

Lets imagine a world where every 18 year old girl and younger, starting today, decided that they would not have sex until marriage because it degrades them and their worth, and they deserve better.  What would that world look like?  What would that do to men? 

never mind

Feed the troll with caution.   

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 19:09:18
Feed the troll with caution.   

Yep. You're right. Thanks for the spritz to the face wake up call.  Back to ignoring...

Quote from: MeMyself on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 19:11:47

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 19:09:18
Feed the troll with caution.   

Yep. You're right. Thanks for the spritz to the face wake up call.  Back to ignoring...

Before you get too far into any of the links on my profile, remember you have to be like a child to get into the Kingdom of Heaven.  Remember the Parable of the wedding feast. 

God says to me, "Son of Man these people put up stumbling blocks against me." (Ezekiel 14:3)  False man made ideologies are Idols in people's hearts.  It is self worship.  You have to love God more than the things of the world.  I am a veteran.  God called me to be a prophet.  I am coming into some stumbling blocks like wrecking ball.  (Matthew 10:34) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DL0W9AUCuY

The Kingdom of God is a lot like this:  We are a Body of Christ.  God is like an AI through his Holy Spirit.  Israel during the Book of Judges and before had God as their King.  They did not have an Earthly Ruler.  Just some judges, some of which may have come up like Psalms 118:22 during a falling away.  Prophetic ministry has been pushed out of many Churches.  Where does it go?  Love is a two way street and God protects what he loves.  You should to.  You probably wont be able to see it unless God opens your eyes to it. 
Clutch. "Burning Beard."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtdYQLr9cpE

Quote from: ManonFire on Tue Sep 15, 2015 - 18:59:20
Lets imagine a world where every 18 year old girl and younger, starting today, decided that they would not have sex until marriage because it degrades them and their worth, and they deserve better.  What would that world look like?  What would that do to men?

How about all men decided the same. lets imagine that.

repeat, a Levite is descended from the tribe of levite. Thats not you, you are not even Jewish.   

'God and I made one of the greatest interceptions in all of history.'

Really? Can you hear yourself?  Do you know how many we get here who claim a special 'unique' relationship with God that we mere mortals dont have? That only they have been given a special understanding of the Bible? Do you know how many of them are full of pride but completely lacking in humility?
All of the most mature godly people I know have bags of humility and would never make claims of this sort.

As I said you desperately need the guidance and accountability of a church family.Its what God tells us.  I know 2 other young men like you who think they have no need of church or indeed other believers, and have a 'special' relationship with Him that the rest apparently dont have, and that they are uniquely gifted and talented spiritually, and like you they have gone way off track and into pride and error.

My husband has been told by God through several others that he is going to be used mightly by God in prophecy and in other ways, and do you know how many people he has told? Not one. Not even our children know. He has humility.

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'God and I made one of the greatest interceptions in all of history.'

Really? Can you hear yourself?  Do you know how many we get here who claim a special 'unique' relationship with God that we mere mortals dont have? That only they have been given a special understanding of the Bible? Do you know how many of them are full of pride but completely lacking in humility?
All of the most mature godly people I know have bags of humility and would never make claims of this sort.

As I said you desperately need the guidance and accountability of a church family.Its what God tells us.  I know 2 other young men like you who think they have no need of church or indeed other believers, and have a 'special' relationship with Him that the rest apparently dont have, and that they are uniquely gifted and talented spiritually, and like you they have gone way off track and into pride and error.

My husband has been told by God through several others that he is going to be used mightly by God in prophecy and in other ways, and do you know how many people he has told? Not one. Not even our children know. He has humility.

You seem to have a Jezebel Spirit. 
http://www.166factor.com/2013/07/03/14_characteristics_of_a_jezebel_spirit/

Is my fruit good or not? If it is not, than why?  Other than that, you seem to be Jezebel.  Where did you cast your fortune?  With God or someone else?

God brought me to these two places when he lead me to believe I may be a Prophet. 

http://ravenhill.org/prophet.htm
http://www.kingwatch.co.nz/Prophet.htm

You know, as I said, it is like this, Enoch is to Noah as Elijah is to Elisha as Jesus is to ? 

It is a good thing that the Kingdom of God is a New World Order and a One World Religion.  God is about to turn the world upside down, and he loaded me full of allegories.  There had to be a falling away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_itzww0XTo

Quote from: ManonFire on Wed Sep 16, 2015 - 00:06:19

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'God and I made one of the greatest interceptions in all of history.'

Really? Can you hear yourself?  Do you know how many we get here who claim a special 'unique' relationship with God that we mere mortals dont have? That only they have been given a special understanding of the Bible? Do you know how many of them are full of pride but completely lacking in humility?
All of the most mature godly people I know have bags of humility and would never make claims of this sort.

As I said you desperately need the guidance and accountability of a church family.Its what God tells us.  I know 2 other young men like you who think they have no need of church or indeed other believers, and have a 'special' relationship with Him that the rest apparently dont have, and that they are uniquely gifted and talented spiritually, and like you they have gone way off track and into pride and error.

My husband has been told by God through several others that he is going to be used mightly by God in prophecy and in other ways, and do you know how many people he has told? Not one. Not even our children know. He has humility.

You seem to have a Jezebel Spirit. 
http://www.166factor.com/2013/07/03/14_characteristics_of_a_jezebel_spirit/

Is my fruit good or not? If it is not, than why?  Other than that, you seem to be Jezebel.  Where did you cast your fortune?  With God or someone else?

God brought me to these two places when he lead me to believe I may be a Prophet. 

http://ravenhill.org/prophet.htm
http://www.kingwatch.co.nz/Prophet.htm

Ah so because I stand up to your pride and arrogance then apparently I have a jezebel spirit, how convenient. 
Interesting though, because a man I used to know who God uses a lot in prophecy, gave me a strong word that God is going to use me AGAINST those with a jezebel spirit. 

A prophet doesnt need to TELL anyone that he is a prophet, they will see it and recognise it for themselves. If you need to tell people, then something is wrong.

Quote from: ManonFire on Wed Sep 16, 2015 - 00:21:44
You know, as I said, it is like this, Enoch is to Noah as Elijah is to Elisha as Jesus is to ? 

It is a good thing that the Kingdom of God is a New World Order and a One World Religion.  God is about to turn the world upside down, and he loaded me full of allegories.  There had to be a falling away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_itzww0XTo

The kingdom of God is a new world order and a one world religion? Nope. Try again.