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Gaylan,
That was pretty eloquent!
Especially for someone who claims to be deficient in writing skills and tact. ;)

Thanks for stepping up and speaking out.  I think you made some outstanding points.

Stick around, post more, I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

Peace,

Richard

Gaylan,

My own self as well, truly enjoyed that post.

And no problem with the 4R, some of my best friends are Republicans, SinnFein even....OH and you meant Yank Republican!

By the way, to get here just head south and take a left, (You can at least do that? Nooo? Ach) Take three quick Rights at Colombia.

I pray Gaylan we can sort this out, I do believe we can with the Lord's help, but a lot though will depend on Lee and where he decides to come down on all this.

I am gonna start a poll in the politics section, about whether it should be removed.

Let us see how many want it gone and feel it is detrimental to this board.  I will also post it in General Discussion for those who cannot bear to go into politics as it is.

:doh:
friends...what in the world is going on?  it's ONLY a discussion site, regardless of what else you want to make of it.
i call a time out...dump the problem areas for 6 months and try it again at that time.  if it's still unworkable, anyone with a better idea can come forward.
we've got too many important things to do than bog down at the turn of the year!

dj

Now there's a thought!

Excellent thought David, perhaps you should broadcast it further.

Gaylan,

1st: A great big Texas Howdy from me to you!  Another Texan on this board will be GREAT!  I'm glad you came out of lurkdom to join us and I hope you will stay active in posting!

Thank you for the nice compliments and especially on my web site!  I've taken some personal hits on a particular part of my site in the past and it's good to hear from people who appreciate what I have tried to do on it. I also do the granburycoc.org site which is undergoing some changes right now.

Sure wish you had come to Granbury while you were in Benbrook, but I understand because Altamesa is an excellent church.  We have several sets of parents at Granbury whose grown kids are members there.  My wife and I have been at Granbury for three years and love it.  We moved there just as a slow change started taking place under the direction of the eldership.  It continues--slowly--so as to not leave anyone behind but it is changing from the 70's mentality that held so many churches for the last 30 years.  And we continue to grow in numbers almost every week.

I am quite confident we will work through the problems that have arisen here on GC Forum.  There is too much at stake not to.

BTW, where in West Texas are you exactly?  My whole family will be in West Texas at Midland the 1st weekend of April.  I'll give you three guesses as to what we will be doing--and if you miss it on the 1st guess, shame on you!! :D   Maybe you will be there and we can meet.

David,

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]we've got too many important things to do than bog down at the turn of the year!
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:amen:

:amen: [!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I am quite confident we will work through the problems that have arisen here on GC Forum.  There is too much at stake not to. [/quote] :amen:

Wiley, I am off to pray.

God Bless and hold down the fort.

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (david johnson @ Dec. 31 2003,02:40)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]:doh:
friends...what in the world is going on?  it's ONLY a discussion site, regardless of what else you want to make of it.
i call a time out...dump the problem areas for 6 months and try it again at that time.  if it's still unworkable, anyone with a better idea can come forward.[/quote]
I've used that strategy on boards I run along with dumping contentious threads into a forums that only registered users can see (had a lot of problems with people quoting and linking some threads over on other sites to "prove" what bad folks were on my site). Didn't stop them from being seen but you had to take the trouble to register to actually view them.

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]BTW, where in West Texas are you exactly?  My whole family will be in West Texas at Midland the 1st weekend of April.  I'll give you three guesses as to what we will be doing--and if you miss it on the 1st guess, shame on you!! :D   Maybe you will be there and we can meet.[/quote]

Wiley,
Odessa....Lived there from the time I was 6 until we moved to Benbrook for 5 years.  Just moved back about 5 months ago.  At first I wondered why God sent us to S.W. Fort Worth, but we got involved at Altamesa in "Bible Hour" for the kids on Sunday nights and I helped design stage sets for the VBS musicals for 3 years.  Then I understood why.  My wife and I were introduced to so many NEW things (Bible Hour, Praise Teams, Musicals, UPLIFTING worship, CLAPPING in assemby *gasp*) all these things encouraged me and my wife.

Being back where I grew up and acting as Worship and Youth Director, we are trying to take some of these ideas used by a BIG church with a BIG church BUDGET, and apply them to small church volunteers and budget.  It is a chore, but things are progressing.  We should have a youth website up within a month, when I'm finished with it I will post the address, we are excited about the way things are going.

Odessa is just west of Midland.  My office is at the air terminal between Midland and Odessa.  Out our windows I can see where they are working on the new site for "Rock the Desert", which drew more than 100,000 people (last year) for Contemp. Christian Concert held outdoors over 2+ days.

In Midland...first weekend in April?..you say....I probably need only ONE guess. "Stream in the Desert 2004"....April 2-4.   :clap: Yes, I'm planning to attend!  and YES, I am excited of the possibility of meeting you then, let me know!

In pursuit of Him,
Gaylan

Gaylan,

First guess is correct--I'm impressed :D  :clap: Of course I KNEW you would get it 1st guess  :  doh: :thumbup:

We've been attending since the 2000 Stream with Lynn Anderson.  That is also the year my wife put the legalism of her upbringing behind her--AT STREAM :clap:  :clap:  

One of the couples in our Connection Group at Granbury moved to Granbury last year from Midland and were members of Golf Course Road before for the years they were in Midland.  There could be some changes coming, they think, with the move of Hallal to nashville but it will be a wait and see.  Guess you know that the featured speaker this year is Rick Atchley so it ought to be really good.

BTW, my oldest daughter is the Childrens minister at Turnpike in Grand Prairie and Linda and I teach 2nd graders on a rotation.  My wife is the 2nd grade teaching coordinator (and I'm just really proud to let her be the boss on that one!!!)  She is also one really good teacher.  We are on our quarter out (go back in march).  One of the girls in our class came up to me Sunday during break between the early service and class and said "Wiley, when are you and Linda going to teach class again?"  When I told her march, she kinda of looked down and said "that long?"  I think that sweet little 7 year old just burned a wonderfull memory in my mind!  Linda has been converting the 2nd grade curriculeum into Power Point based teaching material.  The kids are eating it up!!!  They love learning Bible lessons on a computer.  We are using Sally Fraziers curriculeum and Sally has really been impressed with what we have done.

Granbury has not gone as far--yet--as Altemesa but it will eventually!!!  We have leadership connections into Altemesa and Richland Hills so it is only a matter of time :thumbup:   however, the POD is take it slow and easy.  I have had a real influence on the singing in the early service.  i don't lead singing anymore (too many that are better than me!) but I talked one of our songleaders into a trip to Stream last year and boy did he ever change!!!

Maybe that's where everyone on the board needs to get together for some healing and putting things right!

I think we have alot more to talk about, especially in the kids area.  My daughter has a Masters Degree from ACU Graduate School of Biblical Theology in (I think) Christian Education --or something like that and she will be with us so maybe you and her may have some things in common to talk about.  i will also have her husband and daughter (she made Stream last year at just under three months old!), my wife, and my twin daughters who are also ACU students (seniors several time over :( ) with me.  We try to sit on the left hand side of the colliseum on the front row mid way down.

I guess I better cut this off or we may kill this thread with our off topic discussion :frowning:

it's served its purpose anyway Wiley

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]...and my twin daughters who are also ACU students (seniors several time over :( ) with me.......

I guess I better cut this off or we may kill this thread with our off topic discussion[/quote]
Wiley,

Sorry to keep this off topic..but just a little longer...

If you haven't checked my profile yet...or maybe you have....

I have twin daughters ALSO......mine are a "wee tad" younger though...second grade (7 years old).

So you understand the stroller through the store... both dressed the same..not even 1 year old...and the question that we all hear..."Are they twins?".....my wife got SO TIRED of the "Are they twins?" question that one time after a grocery store sacker was taking our groceries out to the car and asked "Are they twins?".. My wife calmly looked at the young man ... and with a straight look said "No, they have different fathers".  I still remember the confused look :thinking:  on the young man's face as the smoke curled out of his ears as his brain was trying to compute THAT bit of information.

I will state though for this board (incase someone might MISUNDERSTAND)...she was JOKING....they BOTH have the same father.  Along with the 11 year old son AND the 4 year old daughter...that only her uncle thinks is "a little angel".:saint:

I look forward to meeting you in person, closer to time maybe we can find out who all from the board will be in Midland..and have visit or somethin'.

Continue the AWESOME work Brother.... You are an encouragement to more than you know.

In pursuit of Him,
Gaylan

Gaylan,

Tell your wife  :thumbup: on the reply!  Know the feeling well!
Kristie and Kathie are not identical but look close enough to each other, even after 25 years, that they still get asked all the time and are known as the twins.  It took me five years to learn to tell them apart about 75% of the time :frowning:
The crowning moment came when the twins were about 2 years old and Shannon was four.  They were all in the back seat in three car seats lined up across the back seat and the woman walks and  "Are they triplets?"  It was a good thing my oldest was asleep as the question would nat have set well with her, even at four years old!

TO EVERYONE READING THIS:

Gaylan,

Tell your wife  :thumbup: on the reply!  Know the feeling well!
Kristie and Kathie are not identical but look close enough to each other, even after 25 years, that they still get asked all the time and are known as the twins.  It took me five years to learn to tell them apart about 75% of the time :frowning:
The crowning moment came when the twins were about 2 years old and Shannon was four.  They were all in the back seat in three car seats lined up across the back seat and the woman walks and  "Are they triplets?"  It was a good thing my oldest was asleep as the question would nat have set well with her, even at four years old!

TO EVERYONE READING THIS:

If you are the parent of twins, speak up.  I'll bet we can all tell stories that will not only put others in the floor laughing, but will also scare the wits out of them at the same time when we describe some of the things twins think up to do!

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I'll bet we can all tell stories that will not only put others in the floor laughing...[/quote]
At the time it wasn't funny...BUT...

My wife's doctor (Doctor K.) had NEVER delivered twin's so she got an older doctor to assist her.  There I was sitting beside my wife's head....a curtain over her chest (Jan had to have a c-section)...the sleep doctor (happy smell guy) beside me, looking at Jan's vital signs....standing up EVERY OTHER minute to see what's going over the curtain...each time he sits down he states .."You can look over if you want."...YEAH RIGHT...JUST what I want to do!....wish Dad's could still sit in the waiting room and chain-smoke (even when we don't smoke)...I digress..

So Baby "A" comes out..... :clap:
then after 1/2 a minute....Baby "B" comes.... :clap:

THEN...from over the curtain...the "old assisting Doctor"  looks down at my wife's belly...I see his eyes over his mask look wide-eyed....then looks straight at me over the curtain.....and says.....

"Son, Doctor K. did tell you there are THREE in here!"

THUD!

I really don't know what happened after that...........

In pursuit of Him,
Gaylan

I think I'll solicit baby tales over in the Family section.  Dunno about y'all but I enjoy hearing them.

Thanks all for the input.